Most effective fat burners?

Progesterone is what boosts woman libido... And on that note, destroys mens...

Hi all...

How you doing? New to the forum, crazy about it! Very helpful!!

Just wanna know, has anybody around here used VENOM fatburners?

I've used HEAT before and loved it, really worked, and now someone told me about this VENOM stuff!

Should I rather stick to HEAT or maybe try the VENOM...?

Peace......

Venom, ECA + yohimbine ?

To be honest HEAT is great, some may argue with me, but I honestly don't feel HEAT has any ephadrine in it, I have taken 6 caps at once and not felt the same as I do with a 'smugin' on my finger of pure eph.

So i'm not sure, 'but eph' used to make me feel so tingly, I get that on jack3d but not on HEAT... Again, I can't prove it, i'm not going to waste my cash getting it tested, ye it still works as a fat burner, but doesn't feel like it contains eph*.

STUARTF wrote:

Wayne wrote:

nikinunu88 wrote: Wayne, get her on heat 2 caps in am , 2 caps in pm, and anavar 10mg x 1 every morning. It helped me alot!!! Ripped me!

Ahh, thanks niki, but unfortunely my wife cant get ripped....The reason I wanna get her on f/off fat as well is cos its quite a powerful appitite suppressant. My wife is rather fat...after 2 kids plus she has a "big frame" She is not clued up about training or dieting, very stubborn and loves "good food"(fattening stuff) So was thinking Heat in the morning when she gets up, make her do some cadio and light weights. A whey protein and either anavar or proviron(purly for libido :evil: - DJ suggested proviron to me some time back so think i will go with it) with it after training. Then she can have the F/off fat around 11ish and 3ish...

how does that sound?

Hey Wayne, Proviron might help men with libido issues because it frees up test. Woman on the other hand don't use testosterone as a sexual hormone so it would do bugger all to help her libido.

Proviron is great for increasing libido in women. You can even make a testosterone cream and apply twice daily to the clitoris... I posted the recipe somewhere on the forum...

I'm with you on this pump.... I don't think HEAT has real ephedrine, maybe psuedo-ephedrine but not the pure ephedrine HCL that we used to be able to buy before it was made S5. Ephedrine is also a highly sought after chemical due to it being the main ingredient in Methcathenone and Meth-Amphetamine synthesis...so it's traffiking is highly monitored by the police and other authorities.

HEAT is still a great product which can give amazing results.... its one of mu favourite fatburners for sure.

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STUARTF wrote:

Wayne wrote:

nikinunu88 wrote: Wayne, get her on heat 2 caps in am , 2 caps in pm, and anavar 10mg x 1 every morning. It helped me alot!!! Ripped me!

Ahh, thanks niki, but unfortunely my wife cant get ripped....The reason I wanna get her on f/off fat as well is cos its quite a powerful appitite suppressant. My wife is rather fat...after 2 kids plus she has a "big frame" She is not clued up about training or dieting, very stubborn and loves "good food"(fattening stuff) So was thinking Heat in the morning when she gets up, make her do some cadio and light weights. A whey protein and either anavar or proviron(purly for libido :evil: - DJ suggested proviron to me some time back so think i will go with it) with it after training. Then she can have the F/off fat around 11ish and 3ish...

how does that sound?

Hey Wayne, Proviron might help men with libido issues because it frees up test. Woman on the other hand don't use testosterone as a sexual hormone so it would do bugger all to help her libido.

Proviron is great for increasing libido in women. You can even make a testosterone cream and apply twice daily to the clitoris... I posted the recipe somewhere on the forum...

Ok, my bad... didn't know that. Test clit cream sounds interesting!

Theres also the problem of excess skin after fatloss,the surgery for a tummy tuck
is pretty hardcore!

@ 00pump and STUARTF - Thanx guys!

As far as I know the VENOM does contain Yohimbine, not sure what else... I just can't find enough info on it though...

Will get back to you guys when I know more!

Think I should take a chance and try it out!!!!!

There are many conflicting info about Venom on the forum. One member said it contains: "yohimbe, guggel sterones and bioperine" and another said it's an ECA-Stack with added yohimbine.

And again, even if it does contain eph, is it real?

Oooooooooh my goooooosh!!!!! So confused!!!!

I get all my stuff from a friend, so I know he won't give me something he doesn't trust.... But still, it irritates me that I can't be sure what it contains!

I've been googling it and it seems there is different "VENOMS..."

Will check the bottle and report back.....

Off to GYM! :woohoo:

Enjoy your evening everyone!!!!

00pump wrote: And again, even if it does contain eph, is it real?

Finding a burner with real Ephedrine HCL is almost impossible, they all contain a "similar" replacement that is nowhere as effective than the real thing or they underdose it.

Any reviews on OXYELITE PRO? i saw it at dischem the other day and the guy there said "marius dohne takes that, thats what rips him" I just giggled :silly: ..... but anyway, is it effective?

Guys: What would your ideal xmas gift be? Im all open for ideas. My man wants to loose weight but doesnt want to inject....
I was thinking of a good whey protein tub and oxyelite pro, but can anyone recommend something better?

What about a good diet.. Cardio... Green tea... A fatburner (Oxyelite is fine, but HEAT is a MUCH better choice and will prob cost you less) and then more cardio?

nikinunu88 wrote: Guys: What would your ideal xmas gift be? Im all open for ideas. My man wants to loose weight but doesnt want to inject....
I was thinking of a good whey protein tub and oxyelite pro, but can anyone recommend something better?

What sport/activity is he into?

I have used Oxyelite along with lots of other things
Honestly it works, great energy, thermogenesis, my problem is the appetite suppression. I battled to eat when I was on it. It is very strong just 2 tabs and you are buzzing.
Between that and Lipo 6 they are about the best "Natural" fat burners IMO.
Agree with Mr_SA as well.

I think she should give him something in the line of what his interests are. Give him something for the activity/sport he likes. That will motivate him to be more active. If he is into gymming then a tub of whey and a fatburner probably is not a bad idea. Tell him you will sponsor his 1st cycle as soon as he hits 12% bf

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Hmmm, u sure you have a bf and not a GF?.... :woohoo:

Looks to me like just a 'good body by genetics with pumps'

what does T3 really do? Is there a difference between t2, t3, t4? Ive heard of all 3 of these, and all i know if they do something to your throid? I took t2 and it didnt do much. Why does some one below on the thread say t3 is gonna make them look like starvin marvin from south park ;p (ps-thats funny!)

nikinunu88 wrote: what does T3 really do? Is there a difference between t2, t3, t4? Ive heard of all 3 of these, and all i know if they do something to your throid? I took t2 and it didnt do much. Why does some one below on the thread say t3 is gonna make them look like starvin marvin from south park ;p (ps-thats funny!)

Niki, you will find my profile on T3 and T4 useful: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/drug...ents/43-liothyronine

The only T2 I've come across was a supplement from Nutrition Lab.

I believe the reason you will that person will look like starving marvin is because T3/T4 are pretty catabolic and will eat away at your muscles unless you use anabolics to combat that.

I don't recommend high doses of T3 to women, because it causes hair loss and messes with the complicated hormone system making some go ape.

admin wrote: ........making some go ape.

Could this be a good thing?! :woohoo:

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tan, has anyone tried this???