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My only issue is that i myself have done this when results stall. And 2-3days later had broken through the point that I was stuck at.
Perhaps results of the cheat meal would have been better if I had not exceeded maintenance.
Thanks for the advice Pyro will try it in the future...
DK, sorry if I led you the wrong way, but I doubt it will set you too far back. Focus on the current diet and forget about the cheat. Move on stronger
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Well I'm horrible with dates, constantly forget my parents. My ex used to remind me until I forgot hers too :pinch:
So happy birthday for Tuesday bud, cause I will have certainly forgotten by then
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I have been following the kito diet very strict now since the 6th of dec which was a saturday
Could I have a cheat meal on the 18th of dec which will be a thursday and was thinking of having my last meal of the day as my cheat meal and making it pizza ??
Maybe any other suggestions for a better cheat meal ?? MM? Pyro?
Or will it be better to wait a bit longer before a do a cheat meal
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First tell us, how's the progress? Start weight and Bf as well as current?
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I think Pyro advocates a 3 week period before the first refeed.
Personally I would say go for it... I hate killing myself and would.rather take an extra week to get to my goals.
The refeed with pizza I'm iffy with, I also love the stuff. But that cheat meal/day you should limit fat intake and allocate those calories to carbs, to replenish glycogen.
I may be crucified for this but I would opt for either a clean or dirty version
Clean being basmati and sweet potato.
Dirty being coco pops and oats.
Sure Pyro will be able to better advise with the cheat meal itself though. He is a keto Fundi.
Edit: I'm guessing that you are wanting panno's eat as much as you like... Also a bad idea. Try count the cals and exercise restraint.
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I'll update stats tomorrow morning , and I see that the pizza is out hahaha
I'll opped for a re-feed with coco pops
But a question on the re-feed , do I add carbs into my whole day's meals or only on the last meal of the day?
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Some will opt for a 2 day refeed, others will add smaller amounts of carbs to each meal for the day and cut the fat. For example every meal would have 200g (for arguments sake) of sweet potato...
Dave Palumbo goes with the last meal of the day to ensure you don't go completely bonkers and eat what ever haphazardly crosses your path.
I've even seen intermittent fasting being done on cheat day.
Where the guy had 2 eggs at 6am and then had his last meal for the day at 6pm, ensuring the entire days calories came from carbs, high GI first (coco pops) then low GI oats...
There's a million different approach's and at the end of the day it takes some trial and error to find what suits you best.
Some may say do xyz but in reality if you found something that works for you, stick with it. Because you're doing this for you not them.
(still stay away from pizza though) :lol:
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Oky but ya let's try the last meal of the day and a bit of carbs before my workout
Will adding omega 3 to my diet make any difference ??
In stead of the 10ml olive oil I add in 3 soft caps of omega 3 ??
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My energy levels are very low I feel very weak and tired after every workout
Should I consider a cheat meal today or wait until next week this time?
I don't want my body to start thinking I'm in starvation mode an start holding on to fat
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Oky so best is to stick it out and just keep on keeping on without any cheats?
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You're battling, I suggest having the cheat meal. For the purpose of being able to recover from there, as opposed to completely de-railing.
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Not with keto at least, you are now out of ketosis. So HAVE A FULL CHEAT MEAL, and get back on track...
Rooting for you Bro.
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So I hope I'll be back into ketosis by monday
But I should add that my first week did not go that bad , but I will have to stop going into full beast mode when I train as I kill my self haha and I need an hours sleep after every session so from now on only 70%
But all and all it looks like I have lost cm in stead om weight and also my arms are staring to become more vascular and my bicep vain is showing again and a vain in my calve is back
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Thanks for the update
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Push hard this week... You going to be feeling crappy, and temptation will be rife. Your cheat meal is a week away so stay strong.
Good luck man.
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I can now start seeing my abs very lightly when I tens or flex my abdominal , my arms , traps and shoulders are becoming nice and lean now , I also have a view veins in my calves now and more in my forearms on the flexor carpie and extensore sides as well as the vein on both biceps
I'm still keeping strict om my diet without a cheat yet
And a silly question but if I knew the answer I wouldn't be asking , is it possible to gain muscle while on keto??? Because I seem to be adding a bit om size , not huge size but a bit
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