DonkieKong's (it's on) Thread

Hay guys

When using LP clen , do I drop the liquid drops in to my mouth or into water? And am I correct when I say that it is 5mcg per drop?

That means I should start of at 4 drops per day for my first 4 days

I will be doing my cardio in the mornings (fasted cardio) so do I take the clen on an empty Stomach or only with my first meal of the day?

You should never take the drops directly in your mouth, because if you accidentally squeeze the bottle too hard you will overdose and then you can kiss your ass goodbye.

Drop your dosage in a glass with ±100ml water and then drink it.

1 drop = 5mcg.

Take the Clen on an empty stomach about 30min before your cardio.

Thank you for clearing that up for me admin

I Defiantly do not want to OD and kill my self with clen! Hahaha

admin wrote: Take the Clen on an empty stomach about 30min before your cardio.

and maybe some Taurine if you're prone to cramps like myself.

This is a silly question but do I carry on with clean every day from monday to sunday? Or only take clen on training days monday to friday?

donkiekong wrote: This is a silly question but do I carry on with clean every day from monday to sunday? Or only take clen on training days monday to friday?

Full time while you're on it

Will taking the 2 tablets every night of beta-sleep keep open my receptor's ? Does this mean I do not have to take the two weeks on two off approach and run the clen for the 6 week duration all at once non stop:-) ♣

Ja bro u won't need to cycle 2 weeks on and off of Clen while on beta sleep but after 4weeks straight even with betasleep I noticed it lossing affect honestly

Do I need 3 tabs betasleep then or take 2 weeks of or what would you suggestions be

donkiekong wrote: Do I need 3 tabs betasleep then or take 2 weeks of or what would you suggestions be

You keep asking all these brain dead questions but haven't given any of your starts or goals ...?

Use the search function...

Read Pyro's thread on Clen.

@ rhino , I have read pyro,s thread , I am just asking the questions that I do not fully understand , like led said after 4 weeks he feel that results are not as great any more so I'm asking if anyone els has this problem and what can I do to keep results from starting to lag after 4 weeks or will the betasleep keep results coming for the whole duration of use

My apologies if this is a stupid or useless question

Have you already been on for 4 weeks so that's why your asking? If not we all react differently and some of us don't even need to go over 40mg so only practice will tell you.
As for betaeep just take 1 cap every night while your on and there will be no need to take a break.

This is going to be my first time using clen and I had to do my homework thoroughly so I can achieve maximum results from my clen cycle

Apologies fro the useless and asked before questions just do not want to make any mistakes

When will I know when my clen dosage is at the sweet spot for my body? Any thing that I could use as a signal to where my sweet spot would be like the shaking hands or any of the other sides?

So that I don't go to high for my first time on clen

Will start at 40mcg

" Increasing the dosage should be stopped when side-effects become too much to tolerate or when a maximum of 120mcg is reached per day" - got this answer from pyro's thread

Like you said Bud you'll only be able to asses things once your on and see your tolerance. Remember it's no magic pill! If your diet isn't up to scratch it won't do shit apart from making you hot and miserable.
And if your Bf is over 10 I don't think you should be using it as you haven't learnt hoe to dial in your diet yet.

The thing with Clen is that you need to find what works for you as an individual. Some enjoy longer cycles on Clen while others see no results after 3 weeks. Betasleep is a factor in this and you should always take betasleep with Clen. Even with Betasleep your receptors will down-regulate, and for some this down-regulation happens much faster. The majority of people have pronounced side effects especially shaky hands and standing in the freezing cold with a wifey (a.k.a training vest). You should increase the dosage every 3 days if you handle the side effects well.

If I wanted to cycle clen for 8 weeks , could I cycle 6 weeks non stop , 2 weeks break and then do the last 2 weeks of the cycle or would this 2 week break in the cycle do nothing to aid in the results of the clen??

Or will a normal 6 week cycle with betasleep every night still have the best results

Just want to max my results on this clen cycle

O yes and it doesn't have to be like exactly 6 weeks and then 2 weeks break that was only a example I was using , it could also be 4 weeks on , 2 weeks of , 4 weeks on , would this approach to the clen cycle have any more advantage or better results over a normal straight 6 week cycle of clen and betasleep??

I'm just curious because a clen cycle a few years back was 2 weeks on 2 weeks of so just cruise what method would work best for results

donkiekong wrote: If I wanted to cycle clen for 8 weeks , could I cycle 6 weeks non stop , 2 weeks break and then do the last 2 weeks of the cycle or would this 2 week break in the cycle do nothing to aid in the results of the clen??

Or will a normal 6 week cycle with betasleep every night still have the best results

Just want to max my results on this clen cycle

Try to run the Clen for as long as you see results and then leave a solid break inbetween. Your receptors need to upregulate again to their normal state and they won't do this if you only break for a week. Clever to run 6 weeks on and 6 weeks off and not more than 2-3 months a year in total.

Does Diphenhydramine HCI and ketotifen work the same??

I have do some reading and it seems that ketotifen works better to up regulate the receptors while on a clen cycle making the clen more effective for longer

So would ketotifen be more effective than betasleep for extending the effectiveness of a clen cycle?

I am going to do the clen cycle that pyro has in his thread , its just under 6 weeks its a 40day cycle so doing the clen on its own will Stop the full results and effectiveness of the clen after about 2 weeks , so with compound between the ketotifen and the betasleep (Diphenhydramine HCI) to upregulate the receptors and keep them open for the 40day cycle and keep 90 - 80 % of clens effectiveness

My maintenance calories are 3500 , my current diet is 3000 cals and I have drop 1kg in my first week of the new diet , I assume that its water from my bulking diet from all the carbs atc

donkiekong wrote: Does Diphenhydramine HCI and ketotifen work the same??

I have do some reading and it seems that ketotifen works better to up regulate the receptors while on a clen cycle making the clen more effective for longer

So would ketotifen be more effective than betasleep for extending the effectiveness of a clen cycle?

Good question man! To answer your question yes ketotifen is more effective, but not enough to make a noticeable difference in your end results.

donkiekong wrote: I am going to do the clen cycle that pyro has in his thread , its just under 6 weeks its a 40day cycle so doing the clen on its own will Stop the full results and effectiveness of the clen after about 2 weeks , so with compound between the ketotifen and the betasleep (Diphenhydramine HCI) to upregulate the receptors and keep them open for the 40day cycle and keep 90 - 80 % of clens effectiveness

My maintenance calories are 3500 , my current diet is 3000 cals and I have drop 1kg in my first week of the new diet , I assume that its water from my bulking diet from all the carbs atc

Stats?

My stats at this moment

1.86m
21 years
106kg
I asume 20% bodyfat because I don't want to Under estimate my own body fat just to make my self feel better every morning when I wake up so I will rather over estimate my bodyfat %

So using Diphenhydramine HCI (betasleep) will more or less yield the same results on a 6 week clen cycle as what ketotifen would yield except that you would be saving more of your money using Diphenhydramine HCI (betasleep) at 2 caps per night than using ketotifen that I have her got a bit pricey

Please Confirm if I am interpreting this right and that I don't have to go and get ketotifen and betasleep would do the job just as good to upregulate the receptors

I get your BMR at 2200-2300cals. Without a doubt you are eating too many calories. Drop calories to 2500 for two weeks and see how your body responds, then report back.

I have no problem to confirm something. Using Diphenhydramine (HCL is not important) over Ketotifen will not affect your results.