Psy's First Cycle

Solid sensible cycle, very similar to my first one. Personally I would run proviron throughout until PCT as I feel it enhances all the other compounds - frees up testosterone and reduces estrogen side effects etc etc. other than that it's spot on bud! Good luck.

eatClen wrote: Hi PsyCLown,

Could you please help me understand?

Why do you have a 'bridge' in your cycle? I do not consider Winstrol to be a 'milder' steroid, if that is the reason why you have a bridge in your cycle?

If I understand correctly, I will just stack my cycle and finish it off with the PCT?

Hey eatClen,

I myself am still learning however a bridge into PCT will basically help you finish your cycle off with a bang and gives you a "softer" landing as you start to come off your gear and your test levels continue to plummet (as you are shutdown and no longer injecting test).
I am not "bridging" between cycles.
With test cyp, my bridge is literally 4 weeks - a whole month with nothing but maybe a bit of hcg depending on how you chose to run your hcg. During this month your test levels just continue to drop and I would imagine your strength would and your gains would possibly plateau.


Oral steroids often (if not always?) have a much sorter half-life so they do not stay in your body as long as testosterone would, so you are able to run them, benefit from taking them and stop them without it having to delay the time until your PCT.


It can be nice in the sense that you can do a bulking cycle, pick up some nice muscle and then bridge with something like winstrol or anavar and end up getting a nice hard and defined look as you finish your cycle.

PsyCLown wrote: I myself am still learning however a bridge into PCT will basically help you finish your cycle off with a bang and gives you a "softer" landing as you start to come off your gear and your test levels continue to plummet (as you are shutdown and no longer injecting test).
I am not "bridging" between cycles.
With test cyp, my bridge is literally 4 weeks - a whole month with nothing but maybe a bit of hcg depending on how you chose to run your hcg. During this month your test levels just continue to drop and I would imagine your strength would and your gains would possibly plateau.


Oral steroids often (if not always?) have a much sorter half-life so they do not stay in your body as long as testosterone would, so you are able to run them, benefit from taking them and stop them without it having to delay the time until your PCT.


It can be nice in the sense that you can do a bulking cycle, pick up some nice muscle and then bridge with something like winstrol or anavar and end up getting a nice hard and defined look as you finish your cycle.

Nailed it Psyclown.

Bridging does not imply milder substances. It's all about filling the void between your last shot of cycle-proper gear to the PCT, by using AAS with short half-lifes (nailing it to within 1 day is the aim).

Bridging does not imply milder substances. It's all about filling the void between your last shot of cycle-proper gear to the PCT, by using AAS with short half-lifes (nailing it to within 1 day is the aim).

Aha. This makes sense, thank you.

@eatClen, you're welcome. I think you have "cruising" in mind, that is what Psy meant with "bridging between cycles". That's reducing AAS use to low range (usually TRT dosages or more) to keep you anabolic and androgenic.

Ciao ciao.

So I started my cycle today.

I was extremely scared and nervous about my 1st pin due to my slight needle "phobia". However I was pleasantly surprised by how painless it is, I thought it would hurt more than when they draw blood - nope.

It hurts more when they take blood from your arm than it does when you pin in your ass. So I am happy about that!

Now I am rather eager for the dbol to start to take effect and then for the test to take effect! ^^
I am adjusting my diet so that I can consume 1000 calories above maintenance. Exciting times ahead.

Psy did you pin your glute yourself? Your Cyp shots are spaced out like mine, planning on rotating glutes to quads? Glad the pin went alright.

Get ready to smell girl's pheromones a mile away and your t-shirts getting tight.

Furk wrote: Psy did you pin your glute yourself? Your Cyp shots are spaced out like mine, planning on rotating glutes to quads? Glad the pin went alright.

Get ready to smell girl's pheromones a mile away and your t-shirts getting tight.

Noo, not yet. As I said, I hate needles. My gym partner did it for me. I plan on sticking to glutes for now, if I notice some pain after a while I will then consider it although I am hesitant due to not knowing how easy (painful) quads are compared to glutes... :blush:

My gym partner is doing the same cycle as me - before we were gyming together he tried to do a cycle of Sustaplex, Deca & Dbol which only lasted a month and there was no PCT. So he got use to pinning from that.

Now we are both running a proper cycle with PCT and and and and. I am making sure he does it properly this time around!


Furk, when you pin do you sort of "jab" the needle in or do you slowly press it against your skin until it breaks the skin and goes into the muscle?
He tried both ways and prefers to jab it in, he did that to me and it really was not unpleasant at all.


EDIT: P.S. ONE Cycle Support actually tastes nice! I opened it up and mixed it in some water in a shot glass and the taste is really not bad at all. This cycle just keeps getting better and easier!

Ah ok. I'd advise you to force yourself to try it at least once. That way you have the skill of self-administered IM injection, just to be self sufficient for the future. But I agree with you, glute shot by somebody else is easy as pie.

You know, jabbing would be better, it is often described as a "dart throwing motion", but that doesn't really fit the action IMHO. What I do, is I position it on target, hold the barrel (3cc) midway with right hand, cleave it in with right hand, then use left hand to assist by applying downward force on the syringe quillion, flanged collar thing at the back of the barrel. So I get you and agree, if you don't pin yourself it is easier to give a quick jab motion because there is no personal feedback. If you have nerves of steel or used to it you can probably push 16G without blinking, but I need to take it slow to get a steady job done.

Hope it helps. You crack me up with some of your comments. Tasty organ support supps lol you must be such a positive guy IRL

Cheers mate.

Hi, Psy.

ONE Cycle Support? Did you break open a capsule?

Where did you get hold of it Chrome?

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Hi, Psy.

ONE Cycle Support? Did you break open a capsule?

Where did you get hold of it Chrome?

Yeah, I can't swallow tablets or capsules so I crush them or open them. Long story as to why, I get whatever I need to get down which is what really matters :lol:
The ONE Cycle Support caps open really easily, you can even reuse the caps if need be - unlike any Liquid Pharma caps which you need to cut open.

I got it from my local Chrome store. They had it on the shelf! It taste powdery and reminds me ever so slightly of that Ensure Shake although been years since I last tasted that stuff.
No unpleasant taste what so ever, no chemical taste or anything with the cycle support. Very weird. I just hope it's actually working and doing what it is meant to do... :ohmy:

My ass was really sore today by the pin site, however no visible bruise or anything.

How many days into your cycle?
Noticed anything from the dbols yet?

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: How many days into your cycle?
Noticed anything from the dbols yet?

Today is day 4. I pin again tomorrow only.

Been taking 10mg dbol every 8 hours and changes, not really - if anything just looks as if I am on some good creatine maybe. I am sure within the next few days that might start to change a bit and look to be more than just creatine water gains.

How about the way you feel?
Any strength gains noticed yet?

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: How about the way you feel?
Any strength gains noticed yet?

As for the way I am feeling, felt fine. If anything felt a bit happier but that could be attributed to a variety of things so I can't say for certain whether it's the dbol / test.

Strength wise, nothing out of the ordinary yet.


One thing which did happen which was extremely weird and unpleasant. All was good this morning, came to work as normal and then I sat down to eat. While eating I reached into my pocket to get something and suddenly a super sharp pain shot through my upper back. Extremely sore, felt as if I had pulled something. I was very stiff and the pain then moved up towards my traps and lower neck and it is still a bit sore.
I downed a lot of water, put some arnica gel on and had a banana - friend thought it might be muscle cramps from the dbol hence the extra water and banana for potassium.

Still sore, however a heck of a lot better. It now feel as if I slept really badly last night and have a very stiff neck. :huh:

So today is Day 5 of the cycle.

Had my 2nd injection today, was a bit more painful but it's out the way now.


Strength seems to have increased a bit, getting a bit more of a pump at gym as well.
Yesterday my sex drive started to increase ever so slightly, more in the direction of what it use to be like a year or two ago.

I jumped on the scale this morning after going to the bathroom and I was 55.1KG (2KG in 5 days? Holy mother of water!!) My mood has changed, it feels as if I am starting to get a bigger ego and I am less patient - like people must not be idiots, it annoys me and it feels as if I am more willing to say / do something about it as opposed to keeping it to myself and not doing or saying anything.

PsyCLown wrote: I jumped on...

I almost got excited when started reading this....

eatClen wrote:

PsyCLown wrote: I jumped on...

I almost got excited when started reading this....

Why? What did you think I jumped on to? :huh:

Day 10 today. Still early days.
Did my 3rd injection yesterday, all went all. In the right cheek again. Not very painful at all.

Yesterday there was a period in the day where my nipples felt a bit itchy, although I decided to ignore it and see whether it continued. It was fine afterwards and today as well so I am going to assume that all is fine and I need not jump onto any AI to prevent gyno.

I am certainly looking and feeling fuller. Strength seems as if it might have gone up a bit, however there is always that chance that it is all in my head One thing I found interesting is that i still have some vascularity, especially when lifting. I love the way I look when I am lifting. Doing deadlifts and looking in the mirror at the top. :woohoo: The muscles all tense, veins showing through very nicely. Now to get that permanently
I do not feel as tired / exhausted after my workouts, yet I get to the point of failure during my sets. My arms for example kinda just lockout and do not move anymore.

Cardio isn't as easy - I think due to the extra weight I have.
My sex drive spiked about 3 times, although at the moment it is where it was prior to cycling. Nothing at all like I have heard where multiple times a day does not satisfy you, I have had days where I can get through it without any "sexual interference" ... Perhaps that will change later on in the cycle. Week 3 to 4?
That being said my mood also seems to spike around the time my sex drive does, I do not feel as "irrational" or aggressive / care less all the time.

I have not been able to do a proper weigh-in again, will try do one sometime soon as I am curious.

Hey guys!

So I need a bit of assistance / advice now - I just randomly felt my chest (nipples area, squeezed it) just for the sake of it and there seems to be a bit of a lump on the left nipple and nothing of the sort in the right nipple.

So now I am getting a bit concerned, in terms of looks it seems ok and it does not feel sensitive nor have they been itchy but I would feel more comfortable taking an AI just incase. I only have Aromasin on hand and I have heard it does kill estrogen quite a bit but I would rather that than gyno.

How much and how often should I add Aromasin into my cycle now and how long does it take for it to kick in and start working etc?


Another thing which might be worth mentioning is the fact that after my 3rd or 4th injection of test I started to feel "normal" again in the sense that my sex drive is back to being normal, no spikes where I am super turned on and I no longer feel as if I have an ego or anything of that sort which I started to feel at the beginning. Not sure whether this is normal or perhaps my estrogen has increased and is the cause of this etc?

Some advice / assistance would be greatly appreciated!

P.S. Could a mod maybe change this title to "Psy's first cycle"? Probably a bit more fitting

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Pyroclasm wrote: Name changed

Thanks Pyro!

You think it would be a good idea to start with some Aromasin? I read somewhere 12.5mg EOD, I have LP Aromasin which is 20mg per cap. I can try split it to half (around 10mg) although I am unsure as to how well the active ingredient is mixed with their filler?
I have also seen recommendations of 20mg Aromasin every 3 days.

Don't believe all th crap you read bro. Aromasin 20mg EOD for fighting gyno. It's gonna take 2 weeks for the Aromasin to be in full swing so for the first two weeks run Nolvadex 20mg ED alongside the Aromasin.

Pyroclasm wrote: Don't believe all th crap you read bro. Aromasin 20mg EOD for fighting gyno. It's gonna take 2 weeks for the Aromasin to be in full swing so for the first two weeks run Nolvadex 20mg ED alongside the Aromasin.

Thank you Pyro!!

Just one last thing, so I had another feel after I logged off the forums and when I was a bit more calm and it seems as if there is something behind both nipples - whether it is a lump or some other sort of tissue I am not sure though. I have to squeeze quite hard behind my nipples to find the "lump", if I just press against my chest and the nipple area I do not feel anything - even if I tense my chest and press against it then.

So re-assessing the situation - since I have not experienced any tenderness (sensitive to the touch / painful) nor is it itchy all the time, is it likely there is gyno forming? Should I perhaps just monitor it for now and what I am feeling is some other sort of tissue and not an actual gyno lump forming?
Or is it really best to add other drugs into the mix to be safe? Less drugs is often better, although if I need to add them I will and I certainly do not want to get gyno.

Psy I would start the Ai and adjust the dose after awhile based on how you respond to get to know your body a bit better and what works best for you as far as Ais go. Bro try not fiddle with your nipples too much.