Christian's go at Keto

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16 May 2016 10:09 #199113 by Christian
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Thanks Furk!

I actually enjoy the butter just like that, not a bad taste at all! ive added butter and cream to my coffee this morning at it was sooo nice! Can i do this though with coffee?

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16 May 2016 10:30 #199114 by Demolish
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yeah if im not mistaken that's how they make bulletproof coffee. Just remember to count those macros.

cant remember if i mentioned it here but MCT oil actually puts you into ketosis very quickly

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16 May 2016 15:06 #199131 by Christian
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Thanks Demolish, yeah you mentioned that before:

I came accross a post of good fat vs bad fat, i am not prone to high cholestrol levels, should i be worried if i am eating a lot of saturated fat on the keto diet?

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18 May 2016 09:19 #199219 by Furk
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Christian wrote: Thanks Demolish, yeah you mentioned that before:

I came accross a post of good fat vs bad fat, i am not prone to high cholestrol levels, should i be worried if i am eating a lot of saturated fat on the keto diet?



Hey man, in my experience you can't dumb it down to a single type of fat (poly, mono, saturated) or source (animal vs. plant). First priority, keep aways from trans-fats. Second, keep away from heavily refined mono's. The rest, I personally believe a bit of a mix is healthy. If you focus on food's rich in omega-3 (cold water fish) , that'll be fantastic. Otherwise just mix up the regulars. Viz: Whole red meat, coconut oil/cream, butter, nuts, whole seeds, cold pressed olive.

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18 May 2016 12:04 #199232 by Demolish
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yeah i agree with furk

very knowledgeable person once told me with regards to fats ,the closer they are to their natural form when you eat them the better. but i suppose that applies to all healthy food right.

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18 May 2016 13:05 #199236 by Furk
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Demolish wrote: yeah i agree with furk

very knowledgeable person once told me with regards to fats ,the closer they are to their natural form when you eat them the better. but i suppose that applies to all healthy food right.

Not all food, but broadly speaking it should be ok. Soy for example, is best in Soy concentrate.

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22 May 2016 15:56 #199351 by Morrgear
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I have read some of the thread so this may have come up. Two key things if you are doing keto:
1. You absolutely need a blood ketone meter - the sticks don't give you a meaningful picture (will explain below).
2. If you are struggling with energy, specifically early on its generally because of low sodium. You lose water and sodium until you fully adapt - the effect is feeling like crap - up your salt and things change dramaticslly

As regards the sticks not working: the problem is this- early on in the keto process they overestimate your ketone levels because your body is needs to adjust to ketone as a fuel so you excrete excess ketone in your pee. So at the early stage you may think you are in ketosis but actually are borderline - and to get further in which is when the magic happens you may need to reduce protein intake if your carbs are already really low - like below 30g. On the flip side, once you are keto adapted you no longer excrete the same amount of ketones and as a result the sticks may show you not in ketosis making you think you need to make further adjustments. Remember the sticks are designed for diabetics to test for ketoacidosis which is at the extreme end - which is when the sticks work. The blood ketone meter (which you can get at dischem is 100% accurate - although the actual test strips are crazy expensive.

Another option, which is apparently accurste, is the breath ketone meter - which you would have to import - it measures the level of acetone in your breath which correlates extremely closely with blood ketone level - clearly the benefit of this option is its a once off expense.

My experience with ketosis was mixed: I felt great, had good energy levels for long endurance events - didn't feel great doing high intensity anaerobic exercise which relies on glucose. For me however, I never got particularly lean on the diet. It turns out that genetically I don't process fat well (I had the genetic tests done) and I therefore get leaner on a lower fat higher carb diet. The reality is there isn't a one size fits all approach. You have to experiment to find what works for you.

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