Christian's go at Keto

Thanks Pyro!

Much appreciated.

Before i go and read can i ask you these quick questions please?

How long where you on keto?
And how was your general well being on it?

Sorry Pyro,

I read that one. Thought there was a different one.

Appologies

I am still on keto my Man! Hahaha :lol: Worst fat loss genetics in history! Keto compared to carbs is no fair fight. On keto I feel a million times better, I have energy for days, and I rarely get hungry. When on carbs I have to eat every 2-3 hours or I crash, and anxiety levels are generally higher.

Okay wow, sounds good!

How much weight have you lost already? And would you mind sharing some of your training tips meaning weightlifting compared to cardio?

How do you approach weight training to spare muscle? Do you train heavy and hard? Or light and more reps?

Thanks Pyro

On keto it is vital to do depletion workouts at least once a week. Depletion means lots of reps and not necessarily to failure. Anywhere in the 30-50 rep range is good and weight wise you will use about 50% of your 1 rep max. Stay away from HIIT cardio unless you know what you are doing otherwise you will absolutely burn through muscle.

Thanks Pyro,

That's valuable information!

And how do you approach the carb up meal or don't you do card up?

What's the take on l-glutamine on Keto to prevent further catabolic state?

Christian wrote: @ Furk, coming back to the BCAA, can i have them direclty after training with my after gym Whey shake?

Thanks.

Might be superfluous, or even damaging towards ketosis. The leucine content will be so high, plus with the insulogenic (sp?) nature of whey, insulin influence is guaranteed. I'm inclined to say BCAAs best place is in IF. I honestly think you can omit the BCAAs entirely.

Christian bud
Really go and have a close look at your total protein per day and make sure you are taking no more than 1.5g per Kg lean body mass.
Too much protein on Keto is not a good thing and actually counter productive

Christian. Drop the BCAA and get your self some Lamb liver from a butcher. I have a lot of friends that farm with cattle and from the few I trust that do not use hormone implants I get beef liver from them. Since I started using it in my shakes my endurance and recovery has gone up tremendously

@ Rooibul, you have to explain...

I love liver, but you mentioned using it in a shake...? Is that raw liver/ cooked liver? Do you mean putting it through a blender... Sounds horrifying... Lamb of Beef?

Optron. You guys can go with desiccated bovine liver powder...

I use the raw beef liver through a blender with broccoli and milk. I do only use 100g at a time though and cut it up in cubes and wash thoroughly under hot water. I don't use more than 200g a day

You can braise or grill it what ever tickles your fancy I blend raw washed liver it is a risk I take but like I said it is from friends that farm cattle not for mass production so Hormone free. If you can not get it from a trusted source go with Lamb Liver from a butcher

Not going to sugar coat it... The way I use it is not the nicest on earth no. But it is camouflaged nicely by a strawberry whey.
Braised or grilled liver would be better for taste I think. Blend the raw river and add the paste to mince can also hide it if the taste is too strong

I just threw up in my mouth! :sick: Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissss!

Christian wrote: Thanks Pyro,

That's valuable information!

And how do you approach the carb up meal or don't you do card up?

What's the take on l-glutamine on Keto to prevent further catabolic state?

No carb ups ever. Forget the glutamine.

Add: Seriously RooiBul you need to see someone!

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Optron. You guys can go with desiccated bovine liver powder...

I use the raw beef liver through a blender with broccoli and milk. I do only use 100g at a time though and cut it up in cubes and wash thoroughly under hot water. I don't use more than 200g a day

You can braise or grill it what ever tickles your fancy I blend raw washed liver it is a risk I take but like I said it is from friends that farm cattle not for mass production so Hormone free. If you can not get it from a trusted source go with Lamb Liver from a butcher

Not going to sugar coat it... The way I use it is not the nicest on earth no. But it is camouflaged nicely by a strawberry whey.
Braised or grilled liver would be better for taste I think. Blend the raw river and add the paste to mince can also hide it if the taste is too strong

Absolutely unnecessary.

I would rather put out a campfire with my face than drink that thing!

Hahaha hey what can I say dedicated to be a cardio machine

Man up and take a swig

Dr. Ershoff took three groups of rats and fed them controlled diets for a twelve week period. Group one ate a basic diet fortified with vitamins and minerals. Group two ate as much as they wanted of the same diet plus B vitamins and brewer's yeast. Group three ate the basic diet but had 10% desiccated liver added to their rations. Then the doctor placed the rats one by one into a drum of water, out of which they could not climb. Therefore, it was either swim or drown. The group one rats swam an average of 13.2 minutes before they all drowned. Group two, an average of 13.4 minutes. Group three, however, were still swimming at the end of two hours, at which time the experiment was concluded.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Dr. Ershoff took three groups of rats and fed them controlled diets for a twelve week period. Group one ate a basic diet fortified with vitamins and minerals. Group two ate as much as they wanted of the same diet plus B vitamins and brewer's yeast. Group three ate the basic diet but had 10% desiccated liver added to their rations. Then the doctor placed the rats one by one into a drum of water, out of which they could not climb. Therefore, it was either swim or drown. The group one rats swam an average of 13.2 minutes before they all drowned. Group two, an average of 13.4 minutes. Group three, however, were still swimming at the end of two hours, at which time the experiment was concluded.

Desiccated liver makes you buoyant. Great....

Whatever floats your rat..

I did mention no one needs to take it like I do.
I did mention it would be better grilled or braised...
Gram for gram it is a very nutrient dense protein and amino acid source.

Ons terg jou net RooiBul. Ek weet uit my eie ervaring goed goedkoper lewer kan weet vir jou gesondheid. Let's stop the derail. Apologies OP.

@ Rooibul: Have a karma for that dedication. Back to topic... I follow the knowledge.

Sorry for being so defensive...
Sorry for the derail.

Hi guys,

Hope you all well?

Just a quick one, is there anyway to check wheater your in ketosis by checking blood sugar levels?

I read some where but cant find it now that if your blood glucose is between 1.5 and 2.3 mmoL your in ketosis?

Hi Guys,

Can butter be eaten just as on keto? Like kerrygold and clover springbok?

Thanks

Sure you can.