Nate's Second Cycle

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16 Mar 2015 20:52 #182990 by Oupa

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16 Mar 2015 20:57 #182992 by Nate40

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Happy 25th birthday in advance Oupa...

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

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17 Mar 2015 12:17 #183026 by Nate40

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Hey guys,

Going to get started with my second cycle.

The dates are as follows for anyone interested in following this thread over the next year:
(1) I will start my new cycle officially on Tuesday March 24th.
(2) Bridge from Tuesday July 7th
(3) PCT from Saturday August 29th
(4) End of second cycle - Monday October 26th

217 days total. Let the games begin.

Nate

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17 Mar 2015 17:08 #183045 by Nate40

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Hi guys,

I need some advice on three things:

Firstly, I want to add a few Dbols as a kickstart to my new cycle. Maybe the first two weeks daily. Good or bad idea?

Secondly, I got a good deal on some Femara which is usually very pricey. Can I substitute the Arimidex with the Femara?

And finally, does Femara help with bloating and water retention?

Shot guys.

Nate

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17 Mar 2015 17:33 #183046 by Mason Might

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Yea bud you can add dbol but why not extend it to 4 weeks? That way as you come off the oral, your Test and Equi will start to show.

You can sub arimidex with Femara, Femara is letrozole, so don't over do it as it has shown capable to reduce estrogen to undectable levels.
Try between 0.3-0.6mg EOD.
It takes a while to achieve stable blood levels so it's not optimal for sudden Onset gyno.

Yes Femara will help with bloating and all estrogen related sides.

IMO if used to control estrogen it's best to taper off it to reduce estrogen rebound. This is my bro science logic though and not sure what the mods thoughts are.

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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18 Mar 2015 12:08 #183081 by Nate40

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Thanks mate,

What daily dosage of Dbol's do you recommend? 30mg?

Nate

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18 Mar 2015 12:48 #183085 by Pyroclasm

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Can you get LP Letro for cheaper than the Femara?

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18 Mar 2015 13:33 #183092 by Nate40

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Hi Pyro,

I only asked for a cost on the arimidex and he mentioned the femara because he had extra. Haven't priced anything else with him.

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Mason Might
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18 Mar 2015 15:13 #183122 by Mason Might

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Might be breaking a rule here so please mods if it's over the line delete this comment...

But in general letro should be cheaper than the arimidex.

LP Letrozole some potent stuff too...

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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18 Mar 2015 15:28 #183126 by Pyroclasm

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No problem as long as you don't give numbers. Letro is definately a lot cheaper than Arimidex. If you can't get LP Letro then go for the Femara if its at a great price.

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18 Mar 2015 15:49 #183133 by donkiekong

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Sorry if this is hijacking nate

@ MM - hay bud are you suggesting letro use throughout the cycle to reach a stable level?

Something like 0.3mg EOD?

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18 Mar 2015 16:05 #183144 by Mason Might

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Yes bud, it's an option...

Aromasin is better though as there is no rebound of estrogen.

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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18 Mar 2015 16:09 #183147 by donkiekong

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For my cycle I got letro , I'm sure nate will most probably be getting letro to , so we should use letro 0.3mg E0D for the duration of cycle ? Up until pct or during pct as well?

At least using letro throughout the cycle has its advantages , like low estrogen , low chance of estrogen sides and keeps of water retention

But when will the best time be to start letro? After the kickstart or in the beginning as well

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18 Mar 2015 16:22 #183152 by Mason Might

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DK it's Very Very individualised especially with Letro...

I'd start at the beginning of the cycle and taper down on my bridge.

Bro you need estrogen, drop it too low you going to have joint pain, weakened immune system and will not put on as much mass.

It's ideal to only use it if you have to or know you are prone to estrogen related sides.

In your case I would have it on hand but only use it if gyno pops up

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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18 Mar 2015 16:42 #183159 by Nate40

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Thanks guys,

I think I will go with the Femara at 0,5mg every 5 days.
I had no gyno issues during my first cycle, only occasionally sensitive nips. But will take it through cycle to help with bloating and water retention.

Nate

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18 Mar 2015 16:49 #183162 by Mason Might

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Bud rather try 0.2mg EOD

It's half life is around 2 days.

When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.

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19 Mar 2015 08:53 #183228 by Nate40

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Thanks mate,

All my gear except my PCT stuff has arrived (yes!)and so I will start as planned.

The one problem with trying 0,2mg EOD with the Femara is that each tab is 2,5mg. Do I just break it up into really tiny pieces and hope for the best? Doesn't seem very scientific, lol. Ideas?

Nate

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19 Mar 2015 09:27 #183229 by manery

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If you want to do it accurately, you could go buy a small scale that measures in the mg. look out for one that shows in 2 decimals to a gram for very accurate dosing. Got mine from cash crusaders for R150.

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19 Mar 2015 20:49 #183289 by Chrrism

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Nate,
Haven’t you heard 40 is the new 30…
Chrrism 45+
:evil:

The only man you have to be better than is the man you were yesterday.

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31 Mar 2015 08:59 #183893 by Nate40

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Haha,

Thanks Chrrism. That's what all us old ballies keep telling ourselves haha.

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31 Mar 2015 09:05 #183896 by Nate40

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Sup guys,

Cycle Update:

I'm a week in and already the old boy pains are gone. Feel stronger already and going like a machine at the gym. Genuine muscle fatigue has never felt better.

Only one problem: My chick has locked herself in the spare room. She says I keep jumping her and she needs some sleep.

Nate

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31 Mar 2015 09:55 #183905 by Oupiel

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So where's the problem - now you can focus on your training and doing actual proper cardio, in the gym :whistle:

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01 Apr 2015 14:57 #183973 by Nate40

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Hi guys,

My weight is up 4kg after less then two weeks. You think its water retention from the Dbols?

Nate

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01 Apr 2015 15:18 #183977 by Oupa

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Nate40 wrote: Hi guys,

My weight is up 4kg after less then two weeks. You think its water retention from the Dbols?

Nate

Obviously

3.9kg water....0.1kg muscle.

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01 Apr 2015 15:21 #183979 by Nate40

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Eina Oupa lol

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