Nate's Second Cycle

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30 Jul 2015 09:30 #188505 by GFORCE

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I just want to say that this has been an awesome educational post , a big thanks to Nate and everyone who has contributed to this discussion , I've learnt a TON by just reading and following it . Nate , I'm pretty keen on following your exact cycle and making the changes you have too , I'm the same age as you and will start off with the same stats as you did , I'll ensure that my diet is under control throughout the course , My start date will be 1 September .THANKS again to all

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30 Jul 2015 09:42 #188506 by Nate40

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Thanks bro. Great to hear.
I am sure your cycle will be epic.

Thanks for the kind words. +1

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30 Jul 2015 11:48 - 30 Jul 2015 12:07 #188507 by Oupiel

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Any headaches with the EQ?

Some days my head pounds, others I just wake up with a pip ache that fades away.
Always at the back of my head; occipital tuberosity.
Gets worse if I bend forward.

Checked blood pressure each time and it's been on the money 120/80!!

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30 Jul 2015 12:39 - 30 Jul 2015 12:40 #188509 by Nate40

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No headaches at all on the equi - not one after 20 weeks bro.
You suffer badly?

Have had virtually no sides to my equi cycle at all. But not much size either lol

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30 Jul 2015 13:18 - 30 Jul 2015 13:24 #188513 by Oupiel

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The headaches have got better with time.
They're not debilitating, just irritating and makes training a grind.
At first I thought is was the remnants of flu, but I've been clear for 2 weeks now.

Also drinking a lot more helps, but that also means I'm up all night peeing

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30 Jul 2015 13:19 - 30 Jul 2015 13:20 #188514 by Oupa

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equi takes a shit long time to work properly, and you have to eat like a horse.

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30 Jul 2015 19:51 #188532 by Nate40

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That's true, and clearly eating has been my problem Oupa.

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30 Jul 2015 20:27 #188540 by Nate40

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@Oupa

Oupa quick question about equi.
We both agree that equi is a good compound with fewer side effects than Deca.
But considering it takes so long to really start working its magic in the system, would it not be a good idea (considering the fewer sides) to inject 500mg twice a week? Or would you advise continuing at 250mg twice a week in future cycles?

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02 Aug 2015 10:31 #188609 by Nate40

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Viva Superdrol viva!
Great chest workout this morning!

Bench was a new level for me:
Warmup set - 12x 80kg
2 sets at 110kg (new pb!) - 5 and 3
3 sets at 100 - 8/5/3

The size not there yet but damn boys, the strength will soon change that shit. Appetite up too.

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02 Aug 2015 13:03 - 02 Aug 2015 13:03 #188615 by Furk

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Congrats mate! Stop tempting me Nate!

The itch with TRT is the possibility of going on any AAS any time without stress. Sdrol sides sound too harsh for me. Nate it sounds like you hardly suffer from sides if AAS.

Can you compare your overall weight gain from start of cycle to now? Cheers mate.

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02 Aug 2015 13:29 #188616 by Nate40

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Haha.
Thanks for the kind words bro.

My overall weight this cycle is only up 4,5 kg, but that is mostly due to not eating enough.
I have addressed the diet issues and added the superdrol. We see what happens over the next month.
I have a 40 day bridge planned.

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03 Aug 2015 14:37 #188650 by Nate40

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Superdrol update:

In terms of strength, I have never used a better product.

However you definitely have to substantially increase carb and water intake or you feel very flat most of the day.
My workout is epic but it takes a lot to get myself started.

I think the biggest Sidey is physical tiredness. Feel the need to sleep all the time. Hectic.

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03 Aug 2015 16:50 #188651 by Oupa

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Those sides are 100% spot on with superdrol. Dont go above 30mg.

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03 Aug 2015 16:54 #188652 by Nate40

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Thanks Oupa.
What do you think it is in superdrol that causes the tiredness?

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03 Aug 2015 17:03 #188653 by Furk

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Nate40 wrote: Superdrol update:

In terms of strength, I have never used a better product.

However you definitely have to substantially increase carb and water intake or you feel very flat most of the day.
My workout is epic but it takes a lot to get myself started.

I think the biggest Sidey is physical tiredness. Feel the need to sleep all the time. Hectic.

Hey Nate, really trying to think how one can combat the Superdrol lethargy. I'm thinking what I'll do (not planning on using Sdrol though).

So in the gym itself tiredness is not a problem? Does it affect your endurance? Like can you complete your lifting routine at same intensity as before and have the same amount of exhaustion?

My approach:
1. Give a prolonged break for caffeine before sdrol cycle, then on sdrol use caffeine as normal. That includes omitting stimulate based pre-workouts.
2. DMAA and schinzadrol-A based pre-workouts give me focus like a lion hunting a gazelle.
3. Use melatonin and GABA on sdrol.

If I knew the mechanism that Sdrol makes you tired I'd be able to figure a way to counter it, but alas fairly new to it.

Just musing Nate. High jack over.

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03 Aug 2015 17:19 #188654 by Oupa

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Nate40 wrote: Thanks Oupa.
What do you think it is in superdrol that causes the tiredness?

I have never really looked into it, but my liver tests showed its **** toxic.

I get very much the same tiredness from IGF-1 LR3, but not as bad.

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03 Aug 2015 21:35 #188663 by Hormonas

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As Oupa said, the tiredness and lethargy is very common with superdrol. I know pros who can't go over 30mg without feeling like crap and I actually don't know anyone who hasn't felt like a zombie stepping above 30mg of legit superdrol. More than likely the liver toxicity which is causing it.

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04 Aug 2015 11:34 #188675 by Nate40

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@Hormonas
Thanks bro. I think maybe you right about the toxicity. Will definitely not go over 30mg a day and definitely not longer than a month.

@Oupa
Thanks oups. The tiredness is pretty intense today. Too an alzam to try brighten the mood a bit and get through the day.

@Furk
Thanks for all the great feedback and advice my bro. I always appreciate your advice.
The intensity of my workout is definitely not affected. If anything the extra strength allows me to either add reps or weight. Makes you feel freaking strong.
Its just really difficult to get started. It does maybe have an effect on getting to muscle failure.
What is GABA my bro?

Shot guys,

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04 Aug 2015 15:35 #188703 by Furk

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" GABA is the 'downer' neurotransmitter that counters glutamate (upper), as the two mediate brain activation in a Ying:Yang manner. Highly important in the brain, oral ingestion of GABA is complex due to its difficulty in crossing the blood brain barrier."

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04 Aug 2015 16:42 #188708 by Nate40

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Thanks my bro.
Wow this proves that I clearly have a lot to learn.

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04 Aug 2015 16:55 #188709 by Furk

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Sorry for quick crappy definition, look what Google has to say, I'm sure you'll find it more educational. Also, it's *supposed* to help HGH release in sleep, that's why you'll find it in many "testosterone boosting" or "anabolic" supplements. Never used it before but I've read good reviews for deeper sleep.

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05 Aug 2015 08:26 #188725 by Nate40

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Thanks my bro. Good to know for the future.
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09 Aug 2015 13:21 #188830 by Nate40

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Cycle update:
Cycle done. Onto the bridge - 40 days.

Strength is good.
The test prop is an easy pin, and the superdrol is awesome despite the lethargy.

Will take an update pic or two when its a warm day. And don't worry - I'll wear pants! Lol

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09 Aug 2015 14:45 - 09 Aug 2015 14:46 #188835 by Nate40

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Hi guys,

So I won a poker bet for 20k and thought I would use it to stock up towards a future cycle. This is what 20k looks like:

(1) 15,000mg of alpha pharm test enanthate
(2) 12,500mg of alpha pharm equipose
(3) 3,000mg of alpha pharm test prop
(4) 2,500mg of alpha pharm DECA
(5) 4,000mg of anavar
(6) 1,800mg of superdrol
(7) extra 1,000mg vial of test prop
(

2,000mg of dianabol
(9) 2,500mg of proviron
(10) 20,000 iu's of HCG
(11) 4mg of dostinex
(12) 1,500mg of tamoxifen
(13) 100 insulin needles
(14) box of 100 glute syringes
(15) 500g BCAA's
(16) 2kg of optimum nutrition whey

Is it wrong that I get excited just looking at it?

Nate

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09 Aug 2015 14:55 #188836 by Furk

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I'm really not sure if you are being serious or not...

And a R20,000 poker pot?

And why buy the most expensive whey on earth?

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