first time

thank very much punisher you know its just you see these guys getting bigger and bigger and never thought it was such abig deal but theres a wholeata shit involve when taking steroids sorry guys if i said anything wrong. david were this comp happening

Well everybody needs to start somewher how old are you by the way?

David.biohazard wrote: Get to about 12%, you won't regret it

David,
Why is it better to have a lower bodyfat before going on a cycle? Surely if you eat lean, one's bodyfat is unlikely to climb :whistle:

Because you have to up your carbs while on cycle. If you read in DJ's sticky its always nice to judge by your abs, if your carb intake is too high your abs will start to disapear. Then you lower your carb intake slightly but your abs are the judge. You can usually see your top four abs at this BF%.

@Hard gainer looking to do Shameen Classic in Cape Town

I'm going to be kicked in the balls again for this comment but it isn't always possible to eat just whole foods. Some people have hectic hours that they have to work and simply do not have the time to eat the whole day.

All of you know Doctari he's a legend on here and the guy is a doctor and said himself on an old thread that he relies heavily on meal replacement shakes... So its just something to keep in mind.

Just meet your daily macro's...

Wholefoods are better but its not always possible.

@hard, if its possible drop one of those shakes and like the others suggested read the sticky's on the forum. Especially those on diet

im 25 punisher just i ve been struggling to get big thats why i wanted to start the whole process

You have bud, this is the best place to start.

when is this competition happening david

31 March

Ok at least your not fresh out of school!
But if you have only been training for 6 months and not seeing results your diet is definitely to blame.
Post your current diet.
Believe me it's worth the wait!