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12 Jan 2012 14:19 #87987 by hard gainer
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hey guys ive been currently gyming 6months just on shakes i currently want to up my game by going on deca and sussed or something else which you would know would give you good gains is th anyone that could help me or we could hook up to chat about taking things

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12 Jan 2012 14:23 #87988 by David.biohazard
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You are more than welcome to discuss your ideas on this board. We are all here to help and to learn. My opinion is that you are jumping into things too quickly and haven't given yourself a fair chance to grow naturally first. Stick around and learn a bit before jumping on a cycle. You should gym for at least two years first anyway. How old are you buddy?

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12 Jan 2012 14:25 #87989 by AAS
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So your looking to do your first cycle? If so I think deca is a bit much, Im going to be starting my first cycle soon and im sure most people on the forum will agree with me that you should start with Test Cyp or E and through in some dbol frontload and winstrol bridge if you can afford it

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12 Jan 2012 14:27 #87990 by hard gainer
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im 25 ive been gyming before on and off for about 2yrs just been constantly in gym for 6months now so you reckon i shouldnt do it

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12 Jan 2012 14:29 #87992 by hard gainer
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aas all that terms dont make sence to me buddy could you go into detail please

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12 Jan 2012 14:30 #87993 by AAS
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hard gainer wrote: im 25 ive been gyming before on and off for about 2yrs just been constantly in gym for 6months now so you reckon i shouldnt do it


Most important thing is diet, if thats not in check steroids will be way less effective

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12 Jan 2012 14:30 #87994 by David.biohazard
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Hence why I say stick around. You have a lot to learn first buddy

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12 Jan 2012 14:30 #87995 by hard gainer
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what would happen to me if i should start it deca

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12 Jan 2012 14:32 #87997 by hard gainer
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cool are there any guys i could join up with at gym

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12 Jan 2012 14:34 #87998 by David.biohazard
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Read up on all the info on this website and all the dieting stickies by DJ. If you have any questions ask, we are here to help educate and we are all here to still learn something new. First things First, you need to educate yourself on what you are going to be putting in your body. There is no point wasting time or money on something someone told you take in the gym.

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12 Jan 2012 14:34 #87999 by AAS
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hard gainer wrote: what would happen to me if i should start it deca


Listen to David, judging from your posts your not ready for AAS just yet. Read all the articles starting with the info section, get your diet and training in check and youll be ready for 1st cycle in no time

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12 Jan 2012 14:35 #88000 by David.biohazard
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You can't just run deca by itself, you need to run it with Test and preferably 1.5 - 2 x as much

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12 Jan 2012 14:35 #88001 by David.biohazard
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Where are you from bro?

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12 Jan 2012 14:36 #88002 by AAS
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David.biohazard wrote: You can't just run deca by itself, you need to run it with Test and preferably 1.5 - 2 x as much


Don't you think a deca and test cycle is bit much for a beginner?

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12 Jan 2012 14:40 #88003 by David.biohazard
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Yeah I'm not condoning it bud, just stating the facts. Thought he wanted to do a deca only cycle

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12 Jan 2012 14:41 #88005 by hard gainer
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yes ofcourse you guys would know best but geez looking at some guys that only been in the gym for a month and goes on these thing its amazing wer i have been in gym training morning and evening that extremely little results that kills me like im wasting my time and money in th gym. geez these guys strenth they get overnight its unexplainble so lets be straight with me if im willing to start the deca and the susted what could happen to me

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12 Jan 2012 14:42 #88007 by hard gainer
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im from ottery and you david

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12 Jan 2012 14:45 #88008 by hard gainer
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im willing to do it but ppl i talk to gota alota bullsit to say when you know they on it like they drinkn banana juice wtf i just want someone to help me so i wont get conned when trying to find someone to purchase these things which i knw going to be a headace to find

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12 Jan 2012 14:46 #88010 by David.biohazard
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You will grow like a weed, if your diet is in order but there are a lot of negatives if you don't do things correctly. The best cycle for a beginner would be Test only. It is the safest start for any beginner bro. I'm also in Cape Town

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12 Jan 2012 14:46 #88011 by AAS
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David.biohazard wrote: Yeah I'm not condoning it bud, just stating the facts. Thought he wanted to do a deca only cycle


I thought so, havnt looked much into deca. Still trying to get my first cycle done haha. I was advised to get my bf % down first, currently at 15. You think I should cut an extra 2-3% off before starting?

D-bol @ 40mg ED for 25 days
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12 Jan 2012 14:47 #88012 by Kkkyle
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Dude forget about the deca all together not on your first cycle, your diet is essential when it comes using gear, otherwise you wont pick up mass, your body cant grow if there is nothing for it to use to grow with!

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12 Jan 2012 14:48 #88013 by crawler
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you say you on shakes

what food you on?

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12 Jan 2012 14:49 #88014 by David.biohazard
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Definitly, I did my first cycle exactly the same one you want to do and I just picked up more BF - not cool. Then I hooked up with DJ and things looking much better. Get to about 12%, you won't regret it

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12 Jan 2012 14:50 #88015 by AAS
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Kkkyle wrote: Dude forget about the deca all together not on your first cycle, your diet is essential when it comes using gear, otherwise you wont pick up mass, your body cant grow if there is nothing for it to use to grow with!


Totally Agree

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12 Jan 2012 14:53 #88016 by hard gainer
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who is dj could i perhaps hook up with him to chat. and you guys are still not telling me the truth of what could happen so why could i not take deca and sussed and what is test

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