years on cycle

There was a thread a while back where 00pump mentioned how he was on cycle from 16 till 24 or something then he offered to share his experience if someone opened a thread for it. Someone opened it, think the subject was how long would it take or something and then bacically no replies. Anyone that has been on for longer than a year? Please share
00pump?

Come on. I think everyone has atleast thought about it. Should be a good read

i have done 6 month long cycles before, it takes it out of u and u actually like being off untill like month 3 when u stopped feeling normal and want to be big again... you need to give your body time off,and time for your joints and tendons to relax...

Were you bulking or cutting? Or bulking then cutting? I can imagine that it takes a lot out of you. My Question now.

You can't run an intense cycle year round, but I am sure most (atleast some pros do) but I think they cruise (cycle 3months or so then take a break while doind 300mg or so weekly for a month or two) then "cycle" again. That could possibly work out good. Would like to know what 00pump's opinion is on this.

lean mass bulking..

look coming down to 250-300mg is fine if u are a bit older,if u are young you can take time off and do pct and time off,some guys who run low dose test all year round can have issues with sperm count etc depending on if they ahve used harsh substances before hand such as deca and tren with out doing a pct... i know the doc had issues with sperm count after a 24 week contest cycle,hence the reason he created the "doctari pct"

give your body time off...you onlu have one body.

So theoretically, it would be "okay" to run longer cycles if you stick to compounds like test, primo and equi for 16 or so weeks then "off cycle" with 250mg or so test for 12 or so weeks before you "cycle" again. It comes down to finances in my opinion. I know its wroong but for a fraction of the price of a proper pct you can easily buy 10ml more test and inject between 0.5 and 1 ml weekly while your "off cycle". The effects it will have on your receptors is just unclear to me

yes, but if you supress your gonads for too long the may never come back online...

Don't think I'll mind hey. Injections aren't so bad. I could live with pinning once a week for the rest of my life. Just won't mess around with slin. Being a diabetic must suck

I would think you will end up with some proper sides after such long cycles...heavy water retention,bitch tits times ten..moon face..acne..i was on a long equipoise cycle once,16 weeks..my skin whent very thin an when the acne started on my back the whole zit would become a raw infected whole that cant heal properly because i am sure jukice supresses your imunity..it was kak..aspecialy if your if jou have 6 sores the size Of 2 R5 coins,i stil got da sscars...

I've been for on for just over a year straight before and had really good results and not such bad side effects. I did regular low dose HCG shots to keep my balls working, and would drop to 250mg/test a week between longer cycles though. I also did a thorough PCT which sorted me out quicker than I expected. I then stayed off all gear because my wife and I were talkng about having a kid and I didn't want to jeopardise that. Anyway, well literally the first time we tried for a baby, I got her pregnant which really surprised me because I was expecting the hormonal rollercoaster I'd been on to complicate things.

So it is good to know that a very long cycle isn't going damage your hpta long term if you look after it on cycle, and then do PCT as best you can. No screwing around with that. I've heard of other people having a much harder time so maybe I am a bit lucky.

In hindsight it maybe wasn't the best idea to stay on so long but it was a good year

Muscleaddict wrote: I've been for on for just over a year straight before and had really good results and not such bad side effects. I did regular low dose HCG shots to keep my balls working, and would drop to 250mg/test a week between longer cycles though. I also did a thorough PCT which sorted me out quicker than I expected. I then stayed off all gear because my wife and I were talkng about having a kid and I didn't want to jeopardise that. Anyway, well literally the first time we tried for a baby, I got her pregnant which really surprised me because I was expecting the hormonal rollercoaster I'd been on to complicate things.

So it is good to know that a very long cycle isn't going damage your hpta long term if you look after it on cycle, and then do PCT as best you can. No screwing around with that. I've heard of other people having a much harder time so maybe I am a bit lucky.

In hindsight it maybe wasn't the best idea to stay on so long but it was a good year

well that is not set in stone and one isolated case cannot be used to draw up conclusions of the entire population. with that said, I believe that it makes no sense to stay on gear for such a long time except if you are doing several shows over an extended period of time.

after 10 or so weeks your body just adjusts to its new "hormone system" and will then again stagnate at that weight. Unless you perpetually increase the dosages, which also isnt too clever.

there is a reason 00pump's body is fucked and why he spends a lot of his time advocating the safe usage of steroids on this forum, he learnt the hard way.

all the effects of these drugs are not known and is not set in stone, just because you feel fine and look good does not mean there is not a ticking time bomb somewhere in your system waiting to shut you down.

take care... you only have one body

Honestly I am leaning towards these long cycles now. (Test only) maybe throw in some equi and then naturally some hgc shots now and then. Cycle with a dose for 10 weeks, then up the dose with 300mg or so for 10 weeks more then cruise at 250mg every week for 12weeks then cycle again. My body responds well to test so not really worried about the sides. Not gyno prone at all, acne is too scared of me and water retention from test is minimal. (Naps or dbol give me a good amount when I frontload tho) the main thing I am worried about is the impact this is going to have on bad colestrol...

In my opinion cycling like this won't be any worse than somone running tren and test. Or a 14week test and deca cycle. Those compounds are much more harsh.

Test for a man is like milk for a baby, I don't want to live to be to 100.

Thunderbeast wrote:

Muscleaddict wrote: I've been for on for just over a year straight before and had really good results and not such bad side effects. I did regular low dose HCG shots to keep my balls working, and would drop to 250mg/test a week between longer cycles though. I also did a thorough PCT which sorted me out quicker than I expected. I then stayed off all gear because my wife and I were talkng about having a kid and I didn't want to jeopardise that. Anyway, well literally the first time we tried for a baby, I got her pregnant which really surprised me because I was expecting the hormonal rollercoaster I'd been on to complicate things.

So it is good to know that a very long cycle isn't going damage your hpta long term if you look after it on cycle, and then do PCT as best you can. No screwing around with that. I've heard of other people having a much harder time so maybe I am a bit lucky.

In hindsight it maybe wasn't the best idea to stay on so long but it was a good year

well that is not set in stone and one isolated case cannot be used to draw up conclusions of the entire population. with that said, I believe that it makes no sense to stay on gear for such a long time except if you are doing several shows over an extended period of time.

after 10 or so weeks your body just adjusts to its new "hormone system" and will then again stagnate at that weight. Unless you perpetually increase the dosages, which also isnt too clever.

there is a reason 00pump's body is fucked and why he spends a lot of his time advocating the safe usage of steroids on this forum, he learnt the hard way.

all the effects of these drugs are not known and is not set in stone, just because you feel fine and look good does not mean there is not a ticking time bomb somewhere in your system waiting to shut you down.

take care... you only have one body

You also have to remember 00pump did some crazy freckn cycles. Tren,deca,test etc. Cycling those I can imagine. Bodybuilders are #1 when it comes to steroid abuse. A pro like jay cutler is on atleast 3g test weekly not to mention the hg and slin. And naturally the other compounds and a shitload anti-estrogens's and then the blood pressure meds. There is no healthy way to weigh 260 pounds with 10% bodyfat. The amount of protein we comsume takes its toll after a few years

jakes wrote: Honestly I am leaning towards these long cycles now. (Test only) maybe throw in some equi and then naturally some hgc shots now and then. Cycle with a dose for 10 weeks, then up the dose with 300mg or so for 10 weeks more then cruise at 250mg every week for 12weeks then cycle again. My body responds well to test so not really worried about the sides. Not gyno prone at all, acne is too scared of me and water retention from test is minimal. (Naps or dbol give me a good amount when I frontload tho) the main thing I am worried about is the impact this is going to have on bad colestrol...

In my opinion cycling like this won't be any worse than somone running tren and test. Or a 14week test and deca cycle. Those compounds are much more harsh.

Test for a man is like milk for a baby, I don't want to live to be to 100.

I don't know if I agree with you bud, your train of thought seems a bit disillusioned to me. Why would you not want to learn from those who have been there and done that. This thread is going to be harmful for those newbies who come to this site to learn. There are protocols that have been put in place and this is all in the best interest of the end user not abuser. I seriously think this thread should be locked

We all know that this thread is steroid abuse. Hell using steroids in general is steroid abuse. This thread is just steroid abuse to the the abusers
Look I know its abuse, but it doesn't help pretending people do not do it... This still beats real abuse like some clown running 60mg dbol ed for 4months :whistle:

This thread is needed in my opinion but its something no one wants to touch.

jakes wrote: Honestly I am leaning towards these long cycles now. (Test only) maybe throw in some equi and then naturally some hgc shots now and then. Cycle with a dose for 10 weeks, then up the dose with 300mg or so for 10 weeks more then cruise at 250mg every week for 12weeks then cycle again. My body responds well to test so not really worried about the sides. Not gyno prone at all, acne is too scared of me and water retention from test is minimal. (Naps or dbol give me a good amount when I frontload tho) the main thing I am worried about is the impact this is going to have on bad colestrol...

In my opinion cycling like this won't be any worse than somone running tren and test. Or a 14week test and deca cycle. Those compounds are much more harsh.

Test for a man is like milk for a baby, I don't want to live to be to 100.

250mg is still about 2.5 times the amount your body produces naturally... then there is still the chemical buildup in your system. within 3 weeks the consentation levels in your system is going to be over 400mg and is going to peak somewhere close to 500mg... which is high (if its the lowest it will ever be).

as I said, your system is just going to desensitze itself, upping the dose by 300mg every 10 weeks is later on going to have no effect on your body... and no, using steroids with all the neccesary precautions and within reason is not steroid abuse... what you plan to do is.

Thunderbeast wrote:

jakes wrote: Honestly I am leaning towards these long cycles now. (Test only) maybe throw in some equi and then naturally some hgc shots now and then. Cycle with a dose for 10 weeks, then up the dose with 300mg or so for 10 weeks more then cruise at 250mg every week for 12weeks then cycle again. My body responds well to test so not really worried about the sides. Not gyno prone at all, acne is too scared of me and water retention from test is minimal. (Naps or dbol give me a good amount when I frontload tho) the main thing I am worried about is the impact this is going to have on bad colestrol...

In my opinion cycling like this won't be any worse than somone running tren and test. Or a 14week test and deca cycle. Those compounds are much more harsh.

Test for a man is like milk for a baby, I don't want to live to be to 100.

250mg is still about 2.5 times the amount your body produces naturally... then there is still the chemical buildup in your system. within 3 weeks the consentation levels in your system is going to be over 400mg and is going to peak somewhere close to 500mg... which is high (if its the lowest it will ever be).

as I said, your system is just going to desensitze itself, upping the dose by 300mg every 10 weeks is later on going to have no effect on your body... and no, using steroids with all the neccesary precautions and within reason is not steroid abuse... what you plan to do is.

On TestE 250mg/week (TRT - well not really is it ). Ordering some Primo E to supplement that at 200 mg/week. Want to see how things go in the long run. Like always i'll have Bloods done to see the effect. HCG and the Odd Aromasin hanging around.

Bud technically speaking if you supplement with test if you test levels are normal its abuse... If 300mg a week is too high I can always drop it to .5 of a ml. But, 100mg test e has about 70mg of actual test in it (I think, speaking under correction now) so yes. 300mg will then be around 210mg test a week. The normal healthy human body produces between 50 and 70mg a week. It depends on your goals. If you are doing recreational bodybuilding this is a kak idea. If you are going to compete, its a bad idea, but justifiable. Like I said, your body isn't meant to be 260pounds with 10% bodyfat... With that bloodpressure issues etc come with.

I do believe that later the test will basically stop having an "effect" but that's okay. If you want to go bigger add slin and gh. But with that size comes a bloated gut.. Not what I want.

This isn't about what I want to do, that's irrelevant. I am part of 6 billion people on this earth. If I die who gives a shit its nothing major.

This thread is just for people to share their experiences

@jack. You supplement with test full time? Let us know what the results of the bloodtests were when you have them done

oom jack is a bit more advanced in his years, and knows his body well, he also doesn't shoot in the dark. He knows his shit and gets tested often.

Oom jack seems to be doing fine tho. I can go for regular check ups (niece that is a docter) she just loves me lol. I won't do it blindly. I know the risks involved

Yes you and jack may know the difference but what about those 18year olds that come here because they are curios. Look I can see you know what you are talking about and have been around the block a few times but do you think you could take into consideration the other people (youngsters) that may visit this forum. With your knowledge you could be a great asset to this forum, try keep it that way

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Exactly, safe use of a shit long cycle. :whistle: ill go for regular checkups, if things get out of hand, ill stop

jakes wrote: Exactly, safe use of a shit long cycle. :whistle: ill go for regular checkups, if things get out of hand, ill stop

I don't think those word can be put together in the same sentance...

remember... making chronic changes to your to your hormonal system is begging for chronic health issues