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DIESEL wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

DIESEL wrote:

M chest/foremans
T back
W legs
T shoulders
F arms
S cardio/abs(full session)

M to F-20 min cardio and abs after weights.
each session is about 1 to 1.5 hrs max.

You should try keep the sessions to 45 min-muscle glycogen is depleted after 45 min.

Seems a bit much-how many sets are you doing?

i try keeping the session short. almost all levels are depleted..test.gh etc.
i usually feel like throwing up after gym anyway. is that cos of over training. my gym partner is on gear so we push ourselves to the limit. think i am getting over rocked now cos he is def stronger than me now. he started the ARL course 3 weeks ago. omna and equi with first 2 weeks d-bol. its his 2 nd course.

Don't try keep up with him-you can't recover as well as someone on gear. You're just going to burn out.
What are your total sets per muscle group?

lol....realised that today. 4 weeks ago i was stronger than him. today at gym he benched more than me for the first time. i've been stuck at 100kg, he was at 90. today he did 110 clean.

do 12-15 sets of 6-10 reps per muscle group. usually 1 exercise is 3 sets.
difficult cos i tend to get on a high when training and usually train till failure. been used to HIT training. need to get out of that.

DIESEL wrote:

do 12-15 sets of 6-10 reps per muscle group. usually 1 exercise is 3 sets.
difficult cos i tend to get on a high when training and usually train till failure. been used to HIT training. need to get out of that.

It's too much, less is more, you don't grow in the gym and all the other cliches

I think 6 days without a break is too much-I wouldn't go more than two days on a run-2 on 1 off or 2 on 1 off 1 on 1 off.

DIESEL wrote:

250mg /week of sus shud be fine hey? not 500mg. i'm in no hurry i guess.

Well with that silly little var thing your running and depending on your bf results tomorrow it might be better to go with the 500mg. With each successive cycle the gear becomes less effective, but this may be due to increasing size more than anything receptor related.

But if you are still carrying a bit of fat at 88kg then your not holding that much lean mass and 250mg a week could be fine. I think alot of us forget how much mass we actually packed on during that first cycle when we only ran 200mg depotrone a week etc...

Inja wrote:

DIESEL wrote:

250mg /week of sus shud be fine hey? not 500mg. i'm in no hurry i guess.

Well with that silly little var thing your running and depending on your bf results tomorrow it might be better to go with the 500mg. With each successive cycle the gear becomes less effective, but this may be due to increasing size more than anything receptor related.

But if you are still carrying a bit of fat at 88kg then your not holding that much lean mass and 250mg a week could be fine. I think alot of us forget how much mass we actually packed on during that first cycle when we only ran 200mg depotrone a week etc...

Bump this-you'll never grow like on that first cycle of testosterone

Inja wrote:

DIESEL wrote:

250mg /week of sus shud be fine hey? not 500mg. i'm in no hurry i guess.

Well with that silly little var thing your running and depending on your bf results tomorrow it might be better to go with the 500mg. With each successive cycle the gear becomes less effective, but this may be due to increasing size more than anything receptor related.

But if you are still carrying a bit of fat at 88kg then your not holding that much lean mass and 250mg a week could be fine. I think alot of us forget how much mass we actually packed on during that first cycle when we only ran 200mg depotrone a week etc...

thats exactly why i have decided to wait. dont wanna mess up the most important cycle.

don't overdo it, you will land up in bed for a week as sick as a dog, then you can't train anyway. 6 days a week 1h30 a day on no gear can be to much if you train as hard as you say you do.

Diesel What var are u using?

unfornately using the nomad var. my mate in jhb recommended that brand and i got it from them. its been ok. nothing mind blowing. only been 2 weeks though and using 40mg.

Shame what a waste: Not great orals, but if you getting results at all i guess thats the best nomad oral feedback ive heard in a while>

DIESEL wrote:

unfornately using the nomad var. my mate in jhb recommended that brand and i got it from them. its been ok. nothing mind blowing. only been 2 weeks though and using 40mg.

wasted money

lol Lesa you know what when i'm having a bad day I just need to log on here and check your comments about Nomad... mwhahahah!!!

Lesa wrote:

DIESEL wrote:

unfornately using the nomad var. my mate in jhb recommended that brand and i got it from them. its been ok. nothing mind blowing. only been 2 weeks though and using 40mg.

wasted money

i know. i shud have found this site earlier. so irritate cos my mate who has been on gear for sometime recommend it. didnt even know thre was a 20mg variant out there. anyway better now than later. at least didnt make this mistake with test.

Nomad is shit gear. DO NOT listen to a random guy in gym they usually full of crap. Read and research before you spend your $$$