Life begins at 40!

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23 Jun 2014 22:57 #171006 by Muscleaddict

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It's not the end of the world or the end of your gains. We live and we learn.

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24 Jun 2014 08:46 #171010 by Nate40

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Thank you MA.
I must just be positive, and with continued hard work at the gym and calorie maintenance, I know I can keep most of these gains. One day at a time. Thanks for helping me throughout the first journey.

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24 Jun 2014 09:51 #171017 by Rhino

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Muscleaddict wrote: It's not the end of the world or the end of your gains. We live and we learn.

Ye your lucky you found this site, I wish I did earlier on in my journey.
I for one didn't even no what a PCT was when I did my first cycle.

Go big or go home...

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04 Jul 2014 10:26 #171548 by Nate40

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Hi Guys,

Slowly coming to the end of my bridge.
Still eating clean and gyming hard.
Just feeling very tired some days and a bit achy all over. Definitely not flu. You think its my body just missing the deca pins? Feeling kak to be honest.

I reckon the next cycle we going equipose instead of deca.

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04 Jul 2014 10:41 #171549 by RonTheSaveg

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Bru, have you tried some Vit B12 and B complex combo, jabs? Work like a charm! Mix 1.5ml of each and jab in the delts or Gluts. Take more rest days if you feeling kak, Nate. And can't tell you enough how important the nutrition is at this stage. Good food will keep you anabolic.

I doubt it's the Deca leaving your body Nate.

Try your best to stay up-beat Nate. Your PCT is gonna be lank Kak if you don't get yourself feeling good at this point. Try let your mind pull you through these times bru. I promise you can do this! See it as a challenge and come out being the winner.

Mix things up, play with your nutrition, do different things at the gym. Keep a positive state of mind bru. I know it sounds so easy and it actually is.

Keep us updated bru. Stay strong!
Ron

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04 Jul 2014 11:23 #171553 by Nate40

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Thank You Ron,

Your words mean a lot as always my bru.
I am currently taking Vitamin B & C, along with fish oils, etc, etc. But will consider the jabs. Good call.
Am definitely going to take more rest days I reckon. I definitely shouldn't be too hard on myself considering this is my first time out of the gate so to speak.

Trying my best with the nutrition my bro. And trying to stay positive bru. My relationship taking a bit of strain though.

I thought maybe the aches and pains were caused by the fact that the deca levels are going down.

I really respect your awesome outlook and I really look up to you bru. Your attitude is extraordinary.

Nate

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05 Jul 2014 09:27 #171616 by RonTheSaveg

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Thank you Nate! Give us updates and we will all do our best to support and help where possible. Hoping things are already looking up for you bru.

Stay strong Nate.

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07 Jul 2014 09:13 #171651 by Nate40

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Update:
Feel much better today. Last week of test prop shots for my bridge this week, and although I'm still tired, my libido is up so that's good.
Took Friday and Saturday off, but gymed hard yesterday.

Ron appreciate the cool words as always mate.

The var also seems to be shredding me a bit which is great. Starting to see some stomach muscle for the first time in years. Feels good.

One of the big lessons learnt: Try get bodyfat below 12% before cycling again.
Although as I said, in my forties I shouldn't be too hard on myself either.

Have a good day guys.

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07 Jul 2014 09:20 #171652 by Kuifie

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Keep up the hard work, the easiest part is over (if one can call it easy) and the extra hard work has to begin pct, most guys slack of on this time, but I am sure you can do this, keep them valuable gains.

Good luck with your pct that follows, and keep us up to date

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07 Jul 2014 09:22 #171655 by Nate40

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I appreciate that bud

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09 Jul 2014 12:32 #171762 by Thumper

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Nate! How things going bud?
Still keeping the gains?

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10 Jul 2014 15:14 #171823 by Nate40

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Hey brah,

Yeh reaching the end of my bridge and so far so good mate. Steady at just over 90kg at the moment. Trying to eat clean that's the big thing.
Few aches and pains but no pain no gain right. One day at a time bru...

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14 Jul 2014 09:11 #171953 by Nate40

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Hey guys,

Almost at the end of bridge now and going well.

I saw a mate I haven't seen since last year yesterday, and he immediately remarked how much bigger and more defined I was which was great to hear. He did however point out that my face looked a little puffy and that I had bags under my eyes. Is this water retention?

@Fillet
I read yesterday on one of the threads that you referred to Deca as the pretty boy roid. (Ironically haha) Is this because it effects your looks in some ways like puffiness? Nothing I can do about it?

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14 Jul 2014 20:40 #171969 by FIllet

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Ye purely because it improves bone density, helps to cure joint problems, its easy on the liver, does not cause excessive hairloss or acne. As long as you manage prolactin and work the steroid properly

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15 Jul 2014 18:31 #172026 by Nate40

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Thanks man. So you saying:
* Deca does cause inevitable puffiness in the face?
* Is it the same for Test?
* Deca has a negative effect on your looks?
* Is this caused by water retention?
* Does the puffiness go away?
* Would equipose, for example, have the same effect on the face as Deca?

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15 Jul 2014 18:34 - 15 Jul 2014 18:34 #172027 by Nate40

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@Fillet

Sorry misunderstanding your use of pretty boy roid, sorry. Please see below...

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15 Jul 2014 19:06 #172028 by Rhino

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The puffiness is water retention. Did you run adex or letro?

Go big or go home...

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15 Jul 2014 20:13 - 15 Jul 2014 20:13 #172029 by Oupa

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Nate

You will force people to go on early retirement with those questions.

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16 Jul 2014 08:56 #172045 by Nate40

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@Rhino
I had letro on standby, but didn't use it

@Oupa
Lol Oupa. If you don't ask you don't get the answer haha

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16 Jul 2014 09:46 #172047 by Rhino

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That's why your puffy Bud(water retention) we told you running a low dose would help control the sides you experience and would have made pct easier.
So it's not the Deca as any compound Equi and test included will have the same effect. Once you start your pct water will drop with your weight. And you won't look puffy anymore

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16 Jul 2014 10:28 #172053 by Oupa

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Rhino wrote: That's why your puffy Bud(water retention) we told you running a low dose would help control the sides you experience and would have made pct easier.
So it's not the Deca as any compound Equi and test included will have the same effect. Once you start your pct water will drop with your weight. And you won't look puffy anymore

What he said

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16 Jul 2014 17:11 #172087 by Nate40

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Thanks Rhino,

I appreciate the feedback.
So now that we have established I am prone to a bit of facial water retention, you are advising that in future I take a low dose of letro throughout my cycle? I had femara on hand. Would that have helped?

Thanks again,

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16 Jul 2014 20:22 #172094 by FIllet

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That's the stuff, same shit different smell.
Remember that I don't suffer that due to diuretics

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16 Jul 2014 21:02 #172098 by Nate40

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So should I run diuretics next time during cycle? Or as Rhino said run some femara?

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16 Jul 2014 21:19 #172100 by FIllet

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As Rhino said bud.
Don't take diuretics unless you are competitive, I have to use them for bp so please sont play with that. I only mentioned it because I don't suffer water retention. Letro,adex, femara as the gents said

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