Life begins at 40!

Pyroclasm
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18 Jun 2014 12:12 #170659 by Pyroclasm

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The dude cannot get Aromasin and I am telling him that it is not the end of the world.

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Nate40
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18 Jun 2014 12:40 #170662 by Nate40

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Hi guys,

Possible solutions if I can't get aromasin?
Arimidex?

Nate

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Rhino
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18 Jun 2014 12:48 #170667 by Rhino

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Make a plan and find some Aromasin. Face it your not a spring chicken so your going to battle with recovery after a long Deca cycle anyway.
And no Adex won't work.

Go big or go home...

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18 Jun 2014 13:04 #170674 by Nate40

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So arimidex not a suitable replacement? Understood

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18 Jun 2014 13:06 #170676 by Nate40

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My supplier said Arimidex and aromasin are effectively the same thing. Eish this is why I am anal about every decision.

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Pyroclasm
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18 Jun 2014 13:22 #170685 by Pyroclasm

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They are both Aromatase Inhibitors (AI) but the one is a type I AI and the other a type II. Both of them can be run on cycle to prevent gyno (which is what your supplier is thinking) but the Aromasin is the one you want for PCT. It is better if you run the PCT with Aromasin but if you absolutely cannot get hold of it then you will still recover without it just slower and be sure to have estrogen control on hand in case of rebound.

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18 Jun 2014 13:25 #170689 by Nate40

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Going to ask around for aromasin. Eish.

And the estrogen control on hand would be arimidex Pyro? How will I know if I am rebounding and needing to take it? Signs?

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18 Jun 2014 13:29 #170691 by Pyroclasm

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It will be your typical estrogen sides bud. On hand arimidex or nolvadex both work fine. Again bud it is not that common so please don't stress about it because your brain is a powerful influence on the body. You also took Prolactin control during cycle as well as HCG so you are well set up for PCT. Be sure to wait long enough before you start hey.

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Nate40
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19 Jun 2014 12:14 #170760 by Nate40

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Well really struggling to find aromasin. Eish.

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19 Jun 2014 12:29 #170761 by Heritage

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Sorry Nate,

I hope you come right bud.
Never been in your situation, so no advice I can offer.

What I did with my cycle was buy everything I needed up front PCT and Cycle. This way you know you won't get stuck.

Good luck bud!

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19 Jun 2014 12:32 - 19 Jun 2014 12:35 #170762 by Nate40

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New Update:

Just been going through all my records to create a bit of an overview.

At the beginning of the year before I changed my entire diet and exercise routine I weighed 77,4kg.
At the beginning of my deca cycle I was at 82,4kg.
At the end of my 15-week cycle I was at 91,1kg.
And now 15 days into my bridge, I am at 93,6kg.

Some of this is definitely water retention, but I reckon an overall increase of 16,2kg with a decrease in overall bodyfat is as good as could possibly have been expected.
Lots to learn but so stoked with the results so far.

Now I just hope I find the aromasin so my PCT goes well. And calorie maintenance will then become the key.

One day at a time!

Nate

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Last edit: 19 Jun 2014 12:35 by Nate40. Reason: Typo

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Pyroclasm
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19 Jun 2014 13:13 #170770 by Pyroclasm

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Your focus now is on keeping as much of those gains as possible! You did great.

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mike123
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19 Jun 2014 13:34 #170771 by mike123

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If u were having a normal Deca cycle with no sides I would agree the Aromasin can be left but in your case u exp the worst side there is allready so get the Aromasin ...ask the boss if he knows any big guys at the gym that might be able to help ...at least you have made record gains..

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Fakey_AK
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19 Jun 2014 15:43 #170776 by Fakey_AK

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Awesome progress bud you can really be proud of yourself.

P.s you going to grace us with some pics maybe?

"The hardest lift of all, is your ass of the couch!"

"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Samuel Johnson

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FIllet
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19 Jun 2014 15:49 #170777 by FIllet

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Ye stop being anal and post some pics, that way you can get some +'s

All these shy guys

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Nate40
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19 Jun 2014 16:11 #170780 by Nate40

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Haha. Comedians everywhere.
First I cause mass forum hysteria for forgetting to put pants on, now I'm shy. The world is so confusing. Haha.

I'll get my future ex girlfriend to take a few pics. If I can find some pants somewhere. Haha

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19 Jun 2014 17:30 #170792 by Nate40

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Not the best quality but took a few after gym quick, Nate.

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23 Jun 2014 09:51 #170940 by Nate40

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Muscleaddict hope you are well.

Have tried four suppliers and I can unfortunately not find aromasin.
Should I run my PCT without it as Pyro suggested?

Nate

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mike123
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23 Jun 2014 10:15 - 23 Jun 2014 10:18 #170946 by mike123

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Have u asked the Boss if he can point u in the right direction ? use the contact us at the top...

in your case I would deffiantly use

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Muscleaddict
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23 Jun 2014 11:02 #170947 by Muscleaddict

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If you can't get it then I guess you'll just have to run your pct without it. Do you still have no libido?

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Nate40
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23 Jun 2014 11:04 #170948 by Nate40

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I have some libido just 30% of what it was.
Looking for aromasin though.
Can I not use arimidex as a replacement. I know that Pyro said the one is Type I and the other is Type II

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23 Jun 2014 11:38 #170949 by Muscleaddict

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It's not advised but if your estrogen is higher than ideal it would be better to use low dose adex than nothing. I think your libido issues are estrogen related but that's just an educated guess. I don't want to advise either way because I don't want to be responsible if you get bad estrogen rebound or if you drop your estrogen too low. You should have organised your PCT before you started your cycle.

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Pyroclasm
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23 Jun 2014 14:32 #170959 by Pyroclasm

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Golden Rule: Always buy your PCT and ancilliaries before you buy your cycle.

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23 Jun 2014 16:56 #170978 by Nate40

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Understood guys.
Remember though we changed my PCT well into my cycle after I started getting some sideys. Originally aromasin was not part of the plan. Not an excuse but just saying.

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Nate40
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23 Jun 2014 21:44 - 23 Jun 2014 21:44 #171005 by Nate40

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Hi guys,

After trying everyone I know, I have not been able to find aromasin, so I am unfortunately forced to remove it from my PCT.

Due to the fact that I have been taking HCG during my cycle and bridge, I know my estradiol levels will be too high entering PCT, but I guess I will just have to deal with that and my recovery will be slower. Sorry MA.

I have not had any gyno issues and my estrogen is hopefully not too high, so will not do arimidex either.

So my PCT will simply be:
[1] 50mg Clomid ED for 15 days
[2] Followed by 20mg Nolvadex daily for 30 days

MA for my next cycle I am going to purchase everything in advance as you mentioned.
Very dissapointed I cant find the aromasin but lesson learnt.
Thank you for your invaluable insight as always. Your knowlwdge is amazing. Thank you.

Nate

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