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23 Feb 2010 14:17 #37305 by bb
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Hi All

For a long time I'd spend between 1,5 and 2 hours in the gym doing weights, when recently someone gave me a few routines to do which was totally explosive and found that it gave me a massive pump! and quite frankly only trained for an hour but it felt as if I done twice as much as before.... EG. for arms, I'd start with pull ups, then straight to arm curls, then straight to preacher curls without resting...and that's one set....I'd do 3 of those.... Then also for chest I'd do flat bench press then without resting move onto pull-overs without resting...the pump is amazing!

I was wondering if anyone has any of these sorts of routines? I'm cutting, currently on 11%bf wanna get below 9% in the next couple of weeks, diet's sorted by a sports nutritionist ex body builder, so it's sound...

Thanks guys

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23 Feb 2010 14:22 #37307 by Saizen
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why would you want to use your weight training to burn body fat? I would see this as counter productive. Rather use your cardio and diet to do this...

Only way is cardio bro...diet and use the weights section to keep your muscle mass or even add on a kg or 2...

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23 Feb 2010 14:25 #37309 by BBG
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thats not explosive training, more like multiple set workout

explosive training is when u accelerate 'explosively' in the positive movement

supersets are great yes
can be used efficiently especially when stagnating

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23 Feb 2010 14:26 #37311 by BBG
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Saizen wrote:

why would you want to use your weight training to burn body fat?


because you can and it is effective

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23 Feb 2010 14:31 #37313 by bb
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I do an hour of cardio every morning and my diet is tight. Sorry if I got the terminology wrong, multiset it is then....Anyone have some more routines..? Or perhaps point me in the correct direction?

Thanks again

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23 Feb 2010 14:34 #37315 by SNOK1986
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Saizen wrote:

why would you want to use your weight training to burn body fat?


Errmmm u need to build muscle in turn to burn fat champion...

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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23 Feb 2010 14:35 #37316 by BBG
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you can 'invent' supersets for your own
just listen to your body and know how it reacts to different type of stimuli though workouts
play with reps, loads and volumes
always seek failure
bite your way through every exercise and dont rest much
ideally have a training partner to assist you

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23 Feb 2010 14:35 #37317 by SNOK1986
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BBG wrote:

Saizen wrote:

why would you want to use your weight training to burn body fat?


because you can and it is effective


LOL sorry didnt see that.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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23 Feb 2010 14:42 #37319 by SNOK1986
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Well what you doing is like hectic giant sets..only thing i do what you do is with shoulders somtimes... Marius Dohne sometimes does giant sets..go onto youtube type marius dohne training shoulders...

I wouldnt do it all the time tho have abreak from it... like do it once in a blue moon..shocks the shit out of ur muscles.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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23 Feb 2010 14:46 #37323 by bb
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Cool thanks so much....

Always seek failure? I'm doing between 15 and 20 reps and if I reach 20 reps I go heavier...Would you recommend I stay on the same weight and max out?

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23 Feb 2010 14:48 #37326 by bb
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Yes it's that "shocks the shit out of ur muscles" which I'm loving and want more!

I'll check out "Marius Dohne" thanks....

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23 Feb 2010 14:50 #37328 by Saizen
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why would you use your weights workout to burn fat? What a load of kak if you answer to build muscle, the only way to build muscle is to do heavy sets (4-6 reps) only use compound movements...I suppose you guys would use cable cross overs to "build" your chest...what a load of crap.

Use your cardio and diet to lose body fat...period.

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23 Feb 2010 14:52 #37329 by Saizen
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if you dont believe me, check out my pics, not sure if they are up here still. I lost 17 kgs fat in 4 months doing heavy ass MAX OT training and cardio, great diet, GH and 250mg Test Prop a week...

none of this "feel the pump" kak...

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23 Feb 2010 14:57 #37332 by BBG
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haha saizen i love your posts, good stuff man

anyways, bb: u need to find 'difficult' weights and play around with those
Once u have maxed out heavy reps, go straight to lighter weights and max out on there as well.
play aournd with your schedules, muscle has to burn and be 'unaccostumed' to what your doing, meaning you have to alter reps, loads and volumes.
if its not clear enough ill put up some examples

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23 Feb 2010 14:57 #37333 by BBG
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dble post

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23 Feb 2010 15:00 #37334 by bb
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Wow!! "Marius Dohne" Now that's what I'm talking about!! Nice one SNOK1986 I don't suppose he's burning any fat while doing that hey, lol....sorry I couldn't resist :-)

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23 Feb 2010 15:00 #37335 by SNOK1986
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Saizen wrote:

why would you use your weights workout to burn fat? What a load of kak if you answer to build muscle, the only way to build muscle is to do heavy sets (4-6 reps) only use compound movements...I suppose you guys would use cable cross overs to "build" your chest...what a load of crap.

Use your cardio and diet to lose body fat...period.


Ja no one said anything about not lifting heavy weight between 4 - 6reps...
And im not saying just use weights to lose fat...obviously cardio and a brillant diet plays a big part but so does lifting weight.

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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23 Feb 2010 15:04 #37338 by BBG
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SNOK1986 wrote:

so does lifting weight.


there's nothing more to it then that

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23 Feb 2010 15:08 #37340 by tiny
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bb wrote:

Cool thanks so much....

Always seek failure? I'm doing between 15 and 20 reps and if I reach 20 reps I go heavier...Would you recommend I stay on the same weight and max out?


If you want to build muscle mass,then you should fail at rep 8,or maximum rep 10.Nothing higher.

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23 Feb 2010 15:08 #37341 by SNOK1986
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bb wrote:

Wow!! "Marius Dohne" Now that's what I'm talking about!! Nice one SNOK1986 I don't suppose he's burning any fat while doing that hey, lol....sorry I couldn't resist :-)


Probably not...losing fat involves good diet and cardio as saizen mentioned....What happens when you train all the little muscle fibres in ur muscles actually teare and repair them selves at night when u sleeping(night time nutrition very important)... burning fat will come from this BUT its not gonna make u lose fat drastically...diet and cardio will...

Therefore get ur diet and cardio sorted...

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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23 Feb 2010 15:12 #37343 by bb
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Diet is sorted....

How much cardio can I do? Would 2hours a day be over doing it?

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23 Feb 2010 15:17 #37345 by BBG
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yes 2hrs a day is overdoing it
especially if you are already 11%, which is a good thing
are you on a cycle?

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23 Feb 2010 15:21 #37347 by SNOK1986
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I would do slow to medium pace cycling for an hour in the mornings...

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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23 Feb 2010 15:21 #37348 by bb
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Damn...Yes I'm on Trembolone,little masteron, little equipoise and winny, oh and ECA....

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23 Feb 2010 15:23 #37350 by SNOK1986
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bb wrote:

Damn...Yes I'm on Trembolone,little masteron, little equipoise and winny, oh and ECA....


Can u give us the exact dosage?

No lets not deadlift as I need a double hip replacement haha

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