dosage for f*ck off fat

Could you use 6uck off fat on a bulking cycle with a huge diet and still have good results?

No. I don't really see the point either

no to lose weight you need a calorie deficit.and to bulk you need excess calories.so thus you would only hamper your own gains.

00pump wrote: If you taking fuck off fat you don't need anything else

If you had to chose between f o f or clen which one would you use ?

philip wrote:

00pump wrote: If you taking fuck off fat you don't need anything else

If you had to chose between f o f or clen which one would you use ?

Depends on your goals, Clen is anti catabolic so you dont really have to use an anabolic, FOF i would use with something like winny or prop.

gorilla wrote:

philip wrote:

00pump wrote: If you taking fuck off fat you don't need anything else

If you had to chose between f o f or clen which one would you use ?

Depends on your goals, Clen is anti catabolic so you dont really have to use an anabolic, FOF i would use with something like winny or prop.

I have the clen already but worried about the sides with it , going to bridge with tbol.
I guess ill give it a try and see how it effects me!!

Clen is great, just start at a low dose and work up, the sides weren't that bad in my experience

Agree with juice clen isnt that bad bro. Start 40mcg until you dont feel it anymore then up to 80mcg until you dont feel it anymore then up to 120mcg (MAX).

Are you using ketitofen?

I still have a few weeks of cycle before i start clen , will get the ketitofen before i start with the clen

Okay cool then i would just use clen no need to cycle with FOF. Just remember the clen wont do anything if your diet isnt good. Also do some cardio 3-4 times a week for 20-30 min, do interval training.

gorilla wrote: Okay cool then i would just use clen no need to cycle with FOF. Just remember the clen wont do anything if your diet isnt good. Also do some cardio 3-4 times a week for 20-30 min, do interval training.

Are you recommending HIIT for someone planning to use BP and heart rate increasing stimulants like Clenbuterol or Ephedrine???
If you are then you are recommending a heart attack and should stop giving bad advice and focus on asking good questions.

low intensity cardio is the best option.

I googled how dangerous is clen ..but google found how dangerous is south Africa first lol
maybe I should be more worried about living here than taking clen ?

Inja wrote:

gorilla wrote: Okay cool then i would just use clen no need to cycle with FOF. Just remember the clen wont do anything if your diet isnt good. Also do some cardio 3-4 times a week for 20-30 min, do interval training.

Are you recommending HIIT for someone planning to use BP and heart rate increasing stimulants like Clenbuterol or Ephedrine???
If you are then you are recommending a heart attack and should stop giving bad advice and focus on asking good questions.

I couldn't agree with you more Inja. This is becoming ridiculous now.

@Gorilla, FOF does not have to be cycled with prop or anything else for that matter. Its not T3.

philip wrote: I googled how dangerous is clen ..but google found how dangerous is south Africa first lol
maybe I should be more worried about living here than taking clen ?

:lol:, look clen is reasonably safe when you know what your doing (just like roids), start at 60mcg if your really that worried and work your way up when you feel comfortable, just relax and don't go over 120mcg and you'll be fine.

I would like to see you do HII cardio on clen anyway. It totally srews up my cardio. Puff like a dog in heat after 5min. Keep the intensity low otherwise the session will be kind of short

i used clen and tried HIIT training it really sucks.feels like you are dying. :pinch:

VonD wrote: i used clen and tried HIIT training it really sucks.feels like you are dying. :pinch:

This is whats got me a bit worried i surf and surfski paddle so dont really want to give that up while on clen !!

sorry i have hijacked the fof thread with clen questions !!

You can always just adjust your dosage.

philip wrote:

VonD wrote: i used clen and tried HIIT training it really sucks.feels like you are dying. :pinch:

This is whats got me a bit worried i surf and surfski paddle so dont really want to give that up while on clen !!

sorry i have hijacked the fof thread with clen questions !!

Some say their cardio is not effected by clen. Im a cyclist and i can't get through a training session on the bike when on clen. You do not want to be 300m from the beach paddling behind the break and struggling for air bud!

Venteze is fine for cardio if i remember correctly, but don't take my word for it. Its the little brother of clen.

How is cardio on fof ?

Whats the usual running time for fof , gona get some incase the clen doesint agree with me?
Need to know how many bottles to get ?

As far as safety goes all fat burners put strain on your heart. Keep a close eye on heart rate and blood pressure and if you don't feel right while training, stop and sit down with your back against a wall.
That being said unless you are very caffeine naive/sensitive, you will be fine if you start at low dosages and increase steadily.

As for cardio and clen... Not a chance. I do my morning fasted cardio, then take the clen afterwards. Clen has a long half-life but in the morning dose is low enough that I can do cardio well. The I take the days clen dosage afterwards to ramp up my metabolic rate for the day even further.

Inja wrote: As far as safety goes all fat burners put strain on your heart. Keep a close eye on heart rate and blood pressure and if you don't feel right while training, stop and sit down with your back against a wall.
That being said unless you are very caffeine naive/sensitive, you will be fine if you start at low dosages and increase steadily.

As for cardio and clen... Not a chance. I do my morning fasted cardio, then take the clen afterwards. Clen has a long half-life but in the morning dose is low enough that I can do cardio well. The I take the days clen dosage afterwards to ramp up my metabolic rate for the day even further.

Inja in the light of your above post do you suggest i rather not take part in high intensity sporting events while on FOF?