Heat, Lava no energy buzz??

Does nothing for me too,

Dont even feel warm, and it came from a reliable source, packaging matches DJ's pics..

I do however crash from time to time and get really irritable, its very inconsistent though, which probably supports N3rd's experience of mixed dosages in the caps

like i said guys they are on this issue,i will be getting samples this week and will test them out...

I laid off them Fri - Mon. Had one this morning at 06:00 and then again at 14:00. Trained at 1800. Sweating my ass off and when i got on the Bike at 18:45 after quite an intense workout my heart rate was 157.
This stuff is strong. Not the most pleasant experience all the time but it does its job.

Ok, so far I have identified 3 different mixtures inside the NEW heat caps.
Dark brown, light brown and just now I found a white mixture (much like the old heat)
Dark brown: some energy, a LOT of body-heat.
Light brown: more energy and medium body-heat.
White: ?? probably the old mix ?? (Don't know yet)
All in all, its probably still a good fat loss product BUT...
I'm disappointed that they threw everything and their grandma into the caps (this raises some concerns, and breaks our trust)
And its exactly whats wrong by putting the words "proprietary blend" on a product, it means these inconsistencies are allowed And its potentially harmful towards the customer.

Any feedback yet DJ?

Few of my buddies tossed the new HEAT. These guys were big fans before. The one said that he has to take 3 or 4 of the new ones to get same reaction as 1 old one. Its not a case of higher tolerence because of overuse since these okes only use it on racing days

ABC01 wrote: Few of my buddies tossed the new HEAT. These guys were big fans before. The one said that he has to take 3 or 4 of the new ones to get same reaction as 1 old one. Its not a case of higher tolerence because of overuse since these okes only use it on racing days

They are talking kak. If you swallowed 4 you will be sleeping in 30 mins. I bet6 they never even started the race and went home to doss.
Its the speedy/ampetamine feeling they want and miss.

We all miss that.

I really don't know what you guys are on about. Today was the first day in 2 weeks that I didn't take a Heat and it felt like I was sleep walking the whole day. Admittedly I never used the old Heat but I really like the new ones.

I took it like DJ said somewhere, one at a time staggered throughout the day and it really helps my energy level but man when this stuff leaves my system I'm scared that I'll fall asleep while driving. Its perfect for a Sunday afternoon nap, I just miss my 13:00 serving.

your last point is noted vega

still waiting on my samples,they are sorting it out nerd...well to let u know,i have been taking heat this week,i have been using 3 caps a day not 4,i am down from 95.4 to 93,6kgs in 4 days,and thats with 0 cardio and i've only trained twice this week...as a fat burner it works,but they are getting to the bottom of this with the complaints...

I also used 3 a day and I lost 3kgs in 2 weeks and that's still with the odd KFC and McD in there.

so as a fat burner it is tops,as a party pill its not the greatest,so even if it doesnt contain massive amount of eph(or something else)and is still producing the results u are looking for from a fat burner then i guess thats perfect....it would be nice to get the buzz back into it...but hey if its burning the fat then what are we complaining about?? its still cheaper than those other branded burners and produces alot better results in my eyes..

DJ wrote: so as a fat burner it is tops,as a party pill its not the greatest,so even if it doesnt contain massive amount of eph(or something else)and is still producing the results u are looking for from a fat burner then i guess thats perfect....it would be nice to get the buzz back into it...but hey if its burning the fat then what are we complaining about?? its still cheaper than those other branded burners and produces alot better results in my eyes..

IT works as a fat burner. I too miss the buzz, but...
I'm complaining about the random capsule mixes... If they can sort that out, so that ALL caps have the same amount of everything in, that would be tops.

Hmm, well the buzz is from eph, if the buzz doesn't come back then it's not eph. No
other way of looking at it.

Looking forward to it being resolved

And guys.... im really the only guy qualified to assess changes to the mix since i used the original HEAT for parties. Feel free to use my expert rave skills on the fixed batch.

jack, when we get our new batch lets hit a slippery party at ESP

Does the new heat still supress your appetite like the old one?

Thanks

00pump wrote: jack, when we get our new batch lets hit a slippery party at ESP

MAN! Those jols at ESP in the good old days! Sundays with the roof open reaving in the sun with water spray. Gooooood days.

I havent been to the new venue....

Tippster wrote: Does the new heat still supress your appetite like the old one?

Thanks

Jip

I'm finding it hard to trust a product thats manufactured with such loose quality control.. not to mention the fact that the manufacturers aren't even sure about the contents of their own product.

Wont be buying heat again, going to stick to clen

well caracal your loss,they have noted what the customers are saying and are sorting out the issue,not many fat burners will do that,so if u dont wanna use it then thats cool,i will still use it with every single one of my clients cos as a fat burner its pretty dam good.

DJ wrote: well caracal your loss,they have noted what the customers are saying and are sorting out the issue,not many fat burners will do that,so if u dont wanna use it then thats cool,i will still use it with every single one of my clients cos as a fat burner its pretty dam good.

If a company is prepared to do that and take note of complaints and deal with it and pretend its not happening or push it under the rug then ill continue to support them.

jackrabbit1 wrote:

00pump wrote: jack, when we get our new batch lets hit a slippery party at ESP

MAN! Those jols at ESP in the good old days! Sundays with the roof open reaving in the sun with water spray. Gooooood days.

I havent been to the new venue....

Haaaaha, freaking awsome... The new premesis is just the old Nexus, pretty good party.. But ja, those old Sunday parties rocked

00pump wrote:

DJ wrote: well caracal your loss,they have noted what the customers are saying and are sorting out the issue,not many fat burners will do that,so if u dont wanna use it then thats cool,i will still use it with every single one of my clients cos as a fat burner its pretty dam good.

If a company is prepared to do that and take note of complaints and deal with it and pretend its not happening or push it under the rug then ill continue to support them.

True, but questions need to be asked about how this was allowed to slip through in the first place, this is an untested and uregulated product and we rely purely on the manufacturers quality control measures. I don't doubt as a fatburner it works, even the current batch, but we're ingesting chemicals here, and going purely on trust. Trust that the manufacturer isn't unknowningly using harmful ingredients, trust that they're testing the raw materials recieved from their sources(clearly not the case), and I'm not even talking about the money wasted, cause in the bigger picture thats a non issue

DJ do you have an answer from them as to what exactly is wrong with this current batch?
Is it the dosages that are messed up, or is it the eph quality?

It is quite simple, the eph in my opinion was underdosed due to cap size inconsistency. Yes it is a problem, however everyone is entitled to a second chance. Lets see what the update batch looks like and take it from there. In my books this is far from a crisis.

If you feel you know a better ECA stack then use that... We lucky we every getting products with eph sold in them due to the risk the manufacturers are taking to create such a product.

i am not 100% sure,they are working on the carcal,i cannot answer on their behalf but all i know is that they are noting the problems and fixing it.