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Heat, Lava no energy buzz??
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I am new to steroids and stuff. But have been using all kinds of fat burners for past 7years now. Always used eph - hcl powder with caffeine and asprin and that was potent. We used that for the rugby and you just needed to take like a finger point and then you would buzz and get goosebumps. About a 2 years ago our supplier can't get the powder anymore. So we looked elsewhere and started using heat, atomic and lava fat burners. We also got eca stack from same company that made superbol. Now recently all the fat burners they don't work anymore. I have been using them on and off and also have lots of friends who use them and they all say that it is not so effective anymore. Did they remove the ephe hcl from all the fat burners? Cause I know that it is banned now and can't get the powder anymore. Also used ephedrex tabs but they were not effective. I took like 5 tabs and no buzz. Is there any real eca stack available anymore? that has not been weakened or had ephed hcl removed? I am looking for something that will give me massive energy buzz while training and nothing comes close to ephed hcl and the old original eca stack. But it can't be found anywhere. All the other fat burnes is loaded with niacin and other stuff. But none has real ephe hcl in. Please help me in regards to this?
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DONT expect a E/Amphetamine type energy rush like in the old days. I also miss that.
But, if you take the HEAT and come up on it while training it is quite effective.
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DJ wrote: guys heat does contain real eph,i have tried ephadra burners at 100mg of ephadra and they dont give the energy of heat,the crash that u get from eph based burners is from adrenal over stimulation...hence the crash...i recon the difference between eph hcl crystals and eca burners is that eph is fast disolving and gets in the system fast and hard but after 2-3hours later it wears off, the eca stack probably slows down the absorption into the blood hence no extrem
e wired effect... its like taking something orally or intravenously, the direct shot in to the blood will work alot quicker than something taken orally
Not a chance on this one Bud. I've been around the block a couple of times. The old Heat was alot more of a party pill. I'll do the toungue test tomorrow.
I have even snorted the Old Heat in a moment of madness 2 new-years ago. That and some curry powder.
This new one is still doing its job raising body temp etc.
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It's not only ryan777, N3rd, pump and myself but I hear allot of complaints. I'm going to test a new "real" ECA-stack after I give a small break for the receptors and I really hope it delivers. The stack I talk about contains the proper Eph HCL, Caffeine and Asprin used in the pharmaceutical industry.
I used to love the old formulation and recommended it to hundreds of people, but since the new one came out people have not been impressed at all and it makes me look bad for recommending it.
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I have no intention to cause trouble, but I felt really disappointed after experiencing the differences in the two formulas.
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jackrabbit1 wrote: That and some curry powder.
Sorry for the hijack but this is just a classic :laugh: Man I wish I was there to see that :laugh: I put lots of stuff in my nose but never curry powder . Jackrabbit you fucking crazy bro
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HEAT is sold as an ECA-stack as far as I'm aware, but if there is no eph hcl in it then it's not what we paid for. There are no ingredients printed on the label and I know is probably done for security and to keep guys from copying it, but it also prevent the user from knowing what he/she is buying.
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Hope they sort it out DJ
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The old ones did that AND was a nice party pill! :laugh:
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No ECA stack in any market works like they use to. I think that the worldwide eph grade is not what it use to be. I travel home to the UK often so i can speak for pretty much the European market.
The fat burning effects are still as good if not greater. I do 1 cap 4 times a day to prevent an adrenaline dump from making me crash.
I still buzz like a stark-raving mad lunatic on the new one! Even on the new bee sting! i alternate between the two every 2 weeks.
My wife uses bee sting and sculpt gel to great effects.
Maybe you guys need to freshen your receptors, just a suggestion to combat the radical receptor downgrade which is harsh with eph
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the new beesting is potent hey doherty!!
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DJ wrote: ok i will be getting samples this week,they think either their Eph raws are old or they have been cut by the supplier.i will let u guys know when i get them and take them....
the new beesting is potent hey doherty!!
I think Eph will get harder and harder to get... wonder what the manufacturers will do about that, because I'm sure they use a shit load of raws for famous products like heat.
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hat new bee sting is something else aswell!
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Girl i work with just dumped 1/2 bottle on me - makes her feel nauseous/crap and she doesnt want to take them anymore.
They are harder on my stomach and definately doesnt make me feel "good".
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