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I think i am starting to agree with everyone here.
Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...
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its all those kak making him so kak!!! or he was kak now juz become a cunt!!eerr a usn cunt, he does cable cross overs, coz he has too much usn supps shoved into his ass, preventing him from sitting! :laugh:
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i heard that tool with the pretty boy long hair that does the phedra cut adds actually over dosed it once and dehydrated himself...what a cheese
blond hair?
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the simple fact is they stated
"We often receive queries on our product quality, efficacy and formulations. This has been a recurring cycle of abuse from independent individuals who believe that they have a profound knowledge of the industry, the MCC regulations, GMP, product development, packaging and ultimately the delivery of the product to the end user.
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People wont complain and bash your name if there is nothing to complain about.
Simple fact is ,
IF YOU SELL A GOOD PRODUCT PEOPLE WONT COMPLAIN. IF YOU DO SELL KAK, WELL THEN THEY COMPLAIN.
They not complaining cause they got nothing better to do.
No one woke up one day and said "bash USN"
People bought their product and had no results or felt ripped off.
Its human nature to complain when something is not right.
SO clearly something is not right with USN
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all your doing here is damaging the industry, not USN.
Jo1, looks like you have something personal against USN. did they reject you on a sponsorhip or something?. USN never went to the States. i know this because a friend works there. there is too much competition in America.
all product are packaged in PTA and JHB, so no there is no difference in waht is bought in the Cape or in Gauteng. first you all attack the products, and when the USN representative replies then you all attack the so-called sponsored athletes. what is this about?
every manufacturer has a strong following, and it is the strong following that grows the sport of body building. look how much the growth of MuscleTech has boomed body building all over the world. you should also remember that not all brands are in the same market. some focus on a specific sport and some focus on lifestyle. the results will differ between a hardcore brand and a commercially available brand that has an appeal to everyone.
USN, Evox and Muscle Science manufacture great products. i wont use them all, but i will use what works best for me and for my goals. i wont go onto such sites and diss the products that i felt did'nt work for me. instead i will say that at that stage, my results where better that what i expeianced with another brand. if your goal for being on this site is to ruin the industry you are passionate about, then your achieving it, but beleive me, USN will survive without your business.
i only use local brands because i beleive that imported products are too expensive. before imported ranges where as popular as they are now, you all used local brands and you never complained. why are you complaining now?
it was you so-called 'industry experts' that they where talking about. a guy with half a brain will not beleive the comments left on a site called 'anabolic steroids'. how much weight will this hold, as most newbies and visitors think we are juice junkies and not opinion leaders.
guys, have half a brain. this industry is going to go the same way a Europe, where governments want to ban sports supplements because of the same shit you are all speaking on this site. wake up, grow the industry and do it responsibly. otherwise, damage it at will. its your choice!
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People wont complain if the product is good.
Simple as that.
The so called 'industry experts" are actually ex customers .
They ex customers for a reason.
If the product worked , non of these comments would of been made in first place.
Yes sadly USN will survive , because many more people will be try their products for a while , then end up typing similar experiences as mentioned here.
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Y,es i stock USN, Evox, Muscle Science, Nutrex, BSN, ON, Muscle Tech,and SPS. at the moment USN is my biggest seller. customers come back for it time and again, so they must be doing something right!
I have no doubt that product quality is up there with the best of them. My rep reminds me of the effort that USN is putting into changing the negative 'bodybuilder/steroid user' image it has. some of you have a negative image or have had negative experiances, and that is fine. we all have them with everything we do in life, from the banks we bank with right down to the guy who does our gardeninig. i dont publically go out to damage their brand, i go to them to query my bad experiance.
I am not here to change peoples opinions or to damage the industry, because that is exactly what you are doing.
how many of the members here actually work in the industry and see the effects that a negative attitude can do to a brand? probably none. you have an opinion, and you beleive that if you re-enforce it enough, you will make a change. life does not work like that. Local brands have value in the industry as the average joe cannot afford imports any more.
i only hope that there will be an injection of intelligence (not juiced aggression) the next time you all feel that you are worthy of making industry damaging statements.
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u also a rep for them, or u get good prices, and sell the shit for a ripp off price at ur shop to ppl, so u have a intrest (money wise) in making money from ppl by selling shit, juz like them, i bet u u dont even use usn, or buy it urself, u would only use the freebeez!!! that ur buddy gives u hey!!
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I dont think everyone woke up one day and decided to bash USN appart from all the other brands.
There is a reason = they tried it and tested it.
If it gave them possitive results , USN name would never of been bashed.
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Yip these negative comments about USN are side effects from steroids. (even though there are people on this forum who do not take sterioids)
I dont think everyone woke up one day and decided to bash USN appart from all the other brands.
There is a reason = they tried it and tested it.
If it gave them possitive results , USN name would never of been bashed.
you're definitely right dude. we tried it and we found that it was extremely ineffective. thats why so many people decided to trash it. wow i never knew that posting negative comments was a side effect of juice. what can we take to prevent it?
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its not about money, its about marketing what i beleive in and getting my customers to see a result in the brands they beleive in. i dont change minds or attitudes as that will come with time. i need to supply a range of products that are available to the market place. my customers see results and they come back for more regardless of the brand. i dont stock brands who dont conform to the industry rules. this is easy for me to see - what dischem stocks i stock.
juiced aggression is exactly that - you are an emotional bunch of people (that may be affected by your chemical use) who obviously dont understand business, ethics or market preservation. your ideals are skewed as you think small mindedness and attack solve the problems. why dont you contact the brand or request a visit to the building/ warehouse/ manufacturing sites. they may oblige. deal your issues with them, not with people who like to fuel a fire.
like i said before. how many of you are involved in the industry in any form - from a company, a retailer, a gym trainer, a sales person etc? probably none, so you dont know how much work goes into a product to ensure that it sells. big marketing budgets are not everything. people have to beleive in what it is you're selling. they need to trust the brand. they also need to understand that everyone reacts differently to a product, so results will differ. this is not a steroid that i am selling. it is a food supplement - NO MAGIC, NO TRICKS - just a food supplement.
i cannot comment on the advertising and marketing of USN. all i can say is that if you feel that the models are not truelly representative of the what the products do, then you cannot beleive the 'hardcore' messages that companies like MuscleTech send out in their advertising. Jay Cutler, Dexter Jackson and others are clearly not steriod free, and there is no way that the product that they are advertising can solely be responsible for the visual result.
marketing is a wonderful thing - it appeals to the senses. visually the results look good and that is what people want.
like i said, deal with your problems with USN, not on this type of a forum. this should be about what to use when, how and why rather than this.
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I have purchased USN product a number of time in the past.
I did not find their product worth the money or to give results!
I purchased Mass builders , Creatine , Glutamine and BCAA.
None of them did much , the mass building was a load of crap . I gave the rest to a friend , who stopped using as well.
If the product they are selling is rubbish. Why must I run after them to fix their crappy product?
Its their job to help satisfy the customer to achieve his gyming goals using their product.
Not for the customer to run after them and fix their "product"
Bashing steroid users has nothing to do with the fact that most if not all the product do not produce results.
Everyone bashing USN (not just on this forum) does so because they did not find it to be the quality product they thought it was..
Surely if 90 out of 100 people dislike USN , this should tell us something?
This simply has to do with a brand name that people have had bad experiences with.
I for one would like to know if a brand is good or not before spending my cash on it.
Word of mouth plays a big roll in suppliments..
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i am a retailer of various brands. my prices are competative with independant retail outlets. i cannot compete with springbok or dischem, but i make my fair share.
its not about money, its about marketing what i beleive in and getting my customers to see a result in the brands they beleive in. i dont change minds or attitudes as that will come with time. i need to supply a range of products that are available to the market place. my customers see results and they come back for more regardless of the brand. i dont stock brands who dont conform to the industry rules. this is easy for me to see - what dischem stocks i stock.
juiced aggression is exactly that - you are an emotional bunch of people (that may be affected by your chemical use) who obviously dont understand business, ethics or market preservation. your ideals are skewed as you think small mindedness and attack solve the problems. why dont you contact the brand or request a visit to the building/ warehouse/ manufacturing sites. they may oblige. deal your issues with them, not with people who like to fuel a fire.
like i said before. how many of you are involved in the industry in any form - from a company, a retailer, a gym trainer, a sales person etc? probably none, so you dont know how much work goes into a product to ensure that it sells. big marketing budgets are not everything. people have to beleive in what it is you're selling. they need to trust the brand. they also need to understand that everyone reacts differently to a product, so results will differ. this is not a steroid that i am selling. it is a food supplement - NO MAGIC, NO TRICKS - just a food supplement.
i cannot comment on the advertising and marketing of USN. all i can say is that if you feel that the models are not truelly representative of the what the products do, then you cannot beleive the 'hardcore' messages that companies like MuscleTech send out in their advertising. Jay Cutler, Dexter Jackson and others are clearly not steriod free, and there is no way that the product that they are advertising can solely be responsible for the visual result.
marketing is a wonderful thing - it appeals to the senses. visually the results look good and that is what people want.
like i said, deal with your problems with USN, not on this type of a forum. this should be about what to use when, how and why rather than this.
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