So it begins ...

so officially started this morning on gh . was a nervous start couldnt sleep in anticipation so was awake 2 hours before shot, did the mix , which was nerve wracking , swirl not shake, wait 10min , check maths so that i get correct iu lol

first things first felt nothing pain wise so confident its not hcg, hcg truly burns and i cant decide which is worse pgw tren ace or hcg

got to gym an hour later and low and behold up 4 kg lost 6.2 % bf yay .....ok only joking

age - 30's
weight - 96kg
bf - who knows but around 10- 11 percent, might be less now, vascularity in chest and shoulders and forearms

recently came off keto diet 2 weeks ago or so.

ending current long cycle (started eq/test end tren test) i still have 8 weeks left :

test enan - 900 a week
tren ace 80mg ed
arimedex 12 drops eod

once cycle over will be on hrt dose of 300mg a week test enan for a couple months before embarking on eq/test/dbol/end with winny cycle of 16 weeks

gh started at 5iu a day split dosage 2.5 at 4am and 2.5 at 2pm inbetween meals on a 5 day 2 off split (financial reasons only, if possible will run it ed)

t3 has been added at 25mcg ed no ramp up or down

slin will be added starting low 3iu postworkout and working way up from there safely, i have used this in the past so know the protocol and dangers.

training is a 5 way split - 2on 1 off 3 on 1 off each body part getting hit once a week except calves which is 2-3 week . 9-12 sets per bodypart


supplements :

6g cla ed
2 g vit c ed
1 x multi vit and mineral ed
3g evening primrose oil
2 g fish oil
2g glucosamine ed
2g msm ed



water - 5-8l a day


thats it, will keep you posted as things progress or changes in how i feel and body composition, please feel free to add your thoughts etc its a work in progress , and as with anything organic it evolves

got to gym an hour later and low and behold up 4 kg lost 6.2 % bf yay .....ok only joking

HAHAHA You had me there for a sec

I'm not to clued up on GH, that's why I said your log would be interesting.

Just out of curiosity,
You chose to start on a "high" dose of GH (most start on 2-3iu ?)
No taper down for the T3?
Have you thought about Estrogen rebound after you stop the Adex?
Have you run a Blast/Cruise before, how was recovery?
Stay safe with the slin

Shit I'm envious
Good luck I will be following

high dose was personal choice, 1 reason its not humatrope , i will monitor sides and if i experience excessive bloat , sore joints etc will back off some and maintain lower level for a few weeks then up slowly from there.

t3 will be kept constant at low dose 25mcg, dont think any need for taper off from this dose personally but again its a new compound for me and will take my kak out from those in the know if i am wrong here.

blast / cruise i take it you mean on cycle then low dose test for awhile then back on ? no i havent , previous history was just lengthy cycles 4-6 months then classic pct clomid etc, would always run hcg through out every few weeks, never seemed to have a problem post cycle or with recovery, and not firing blanks yet lol but have made a personal decision to stay on and just revert back to hrt dosages inbetween, as long as my bloodwork and organs come back healthy then i am happy, probaly would have been a better idea into my 40's but ....

I do however have full pct and hcg onhand that for any reason i need to come off i can at any stage.

i am also very new to hgh , this seems to be a workable approach balancing dosage schedule and finances with some results.


slin always carefull, i am thankful that i have gone hypo quite badly before and know the signs and immediate treatment to get out of it. slin is going to be a 50?50 thing, a sort of nice to have, but will be watching my bf closely and monitor how much of a difference its making to my cycle and to my goals. and in no way will be pushing dosages . just enough to be complimentary


dj has done my diet and will be keeping it up todate week by week for me

well day 2 and up a kilo , obviously water but feel thicker all round, not so much bloated, first weight increase in around 2 weeks,dont think it has to do with gh unless its some water retention caused by it. made an embarresing mistake with the gh calculations but not going to admit that publically lol

oh tell us the mistake

lol ok bare in mind never used gh, so i do the premix, its 4am i assume there is 1ml water , suck up, deposit in powder vial yay 10iu , take slin pin take out my 2.5i.u , and then again at 12pmish 2.5i.u , now cause its 10iu per vial (1ml) next day i decide becaus eits a low dose i am just doing 5iu once a day which is fine , so i pull 5 into slin pin but notice hold on quite a bit left, please be reminded its 4am, ok so works out yesterday i only took 3iu and today....

In reference to your first post; the list of compounds, ancillaries, supplements, and all the other gear you are taking:

YOU SUCK FAT BALLS!
I HATE YOU!!!

Have a nice day now ye hear

Inja wrote:

In reference to your first post; the list of compounds, ancillaries, supplements, and all the other gear you are taking:

YOU SUCK FAT BALLS!
I HATE YOU!!!

Have a nice day now ye hear

Inja finally lost it? :dry: :dry:

Lol I don't quite know how to take that inja

Day 3 ,I think I have got the gh dosage mix right,took 5iu at 4am.

4.30 Pre workout - creapump
5 to 6 am - waxy maise
6 am - 3iu humalog
6.05 - pws 10g glutamine 10g creatine 10g bcaa 60g glucose 60g whey.tomorrow will increase by 1iu but keep carbs the same.
7.00am oats raisins and whey shake no fats

that was todays training protocol.

Well last night and this am feeling very puffy but weight hasn't changed at all.left elbow sore and left shin / ankle sore.this could be from the winny though .and for the first time in ages I slept straight through only waking at 1.30 am for my shake.its a bit early to blame sides on gh but considering high iu its possible.

Gearedup wrote:

Lol I don't quite know how to take that inja

Day 3 ,I think I have got the gh dosage mix right,took 5iu at 4am.

4.30 Pre workout - creapump
5 to 6 am - waxy maise
6 am - 3iu humalog
6.05 - pws 10g glutamine 10g creatine 10g bcaa 60g glucose 60g whey.tomorrow will increase by 1iu but keep carbs the same.
7.00am oats raisins and whey shake no fats

that was todays training protocol.

Well last night and this am feeling very puffy but weight hasn't changed at all.left elbow sore and left shin / ankle sore.this could be from the winny though .and for the first time in ages I slept straight through only waking at 1.30 am for my shake.its a bit early to blame sides on gh but considering high iu its possible.

Just for interest sake I take:
4h30 - Pre workout...Cytomaize+Glutamine+BCAA
5h00 to 6h00 - Training...Creapump
6h10 - Post workout...40g WPC+30g Dextrose+Glutamine+BCAA
Other way around but works for me.

North_Boy1 wrote:

Just for interest sake I take:
4h30 - Pre workout...Cytomaize+Glutamine+BCAA
5h00 to 6h00 - Training...Creapump
6h10 - Post workout...40g WPC+30g Dextrose+Glutamine+BCAA
Other way around but works for me.

How the hell do u survive at that time in the morning, ive tryed it for one week...i could not do it, late afternoons for the win.

North_Boy1 wrote:

Gearedup wrote:

Lol I don't quite know how to take that inja

Day 3 ,I think I have got the gh dosage mix right,took 5iu at 4am.

4.30 Pre workout - creapump
5 to 6 am - waxy maise
6 am - 3iu humalog
6.05 - pws 10g glutamine 10g creatine 10g bcaa 60g glucose 60g whey.tomorrow will increase by 1iu but keep carbs the same.
7.00am oats raisins and whey shake no fats

that was todays training protocol.

Well last night and this am feeling very puffy but weight hasn't changed at all.left elbow sore and left shin / ankle sore.this could be from the winny though .and for the first time in ages I slept straight through only waking at 1.30 am for my shake.its a bit early to blame sides on gh but considering high iu its possible.

Just for interest sake I take:
4h30 - Pre workout...Cytomaize+Glutamine+BCAA
5h00 to 6h00 - Training...Creapump
6h10 - Post workout...40g WPC+30g Dextrose+Glutamine+BCAA
Other way around but works for me.

i like it, cant train without creapump lol , stupid question but where do you find dextrose? i have searched everywhere :blush:

Snok eish man by afternoon i am finished hey energy wise

SNOK1986 wrote:

North_Boy1 wrote:

Just for interest sake I take:
4h30 - Pre workout...Cytomaize+Glutamine+BCAA
5h00 to 6h00 - Training...Creapump
6h10 - Post workout...40g WPC+30g Dextrose+Glutamine+BCAA
Other way around but works for me.

How the hell do u survive at that time in the morning, ive tryed it for one week...i could not do it, late afternoons for the win.

I'm lovin it. Been doing it for 1 year now and will not change. Gym quiet and empty, you can do as you please.

Gearedup wrote:

North_Boy1 wrote:

Gearedup wrote:

Lol I don't quite know how to take that inja

Day 3 ,I think I have got the gh dosage mix right,took 5iu at 4am.

4.30 Pre workout - creapump
5 to 6 am - waxy maise
6 am - 3iu humalog
6.05 - pws 10g glutamine 10g creatine 10g bcaa 60g glucose 60g whey.tomorrow will increase by 1iu but keep carbs the same.
7.00am oats raisins and whey shake no fats

that was todays training protocol.

Well last night and this am feeling very puffy but weight hasn't changed at all.left elbow sore and left shin / ankle sore.this could be from the winny though .and for the first time in ages I slept straight through only waking at 1.30 am for my shake.its a bit early to blame sides on gh but considering high iu its possible.

Just for interest sake I take:
4h30 - Pre workout...Cytomaize+Glutamine+BCAA
5h00 to 6h00 - Training...Creapump
6h10 - Post workout...40g WPC+30g Dextrose+Glutamine+BCAA
Other way around but works for me.

i like it, cant train without creapump lol , stupid question but where do you find dextrose? i have searched everywhere :blush:

Snok eish man by afternoon i am finished hey energy wise

You can get dextrose from LSJ at www.basicsupplements.co.za . Dirt cheap..

Thanks north boy!

Well day 4 another kilo up 97.5kg,strength on the up,still feel puffy so weight gain def water at this stage,diet hasn't changed at all.

Slin pw up to 5iu kept carbs the same,felt 100 percent.

Just out of curiosity, how many cals you eating /day

Roughly 3500 at this stage

Still holding water close on 100kg now,strength up quite a bit.I don't know what's causing the bloat gh or the slin to be honest.

any idea's ? :blink:

At what stage does a person experience the GH sides (Carpel Tunnel Syndrome, pins and needles (I think) After a few weeks or months ?

Generally 3 to 4 weeks in but most ramp the dosage,I have started relatively high so don't know at this stage

wow the bloat was excessive yesterday, hit 101kg but unbearable, today much better though, the lower back pumps are something else, i can drive in 10min stints

as much as i read the one thing thats really confusing me is timing, i do 5iu 4am then train 5am slin 6am , some articles say split dosage at 4am then again 2pm , some say pw before slin shot, some say all just before bed , all very very confusing ?

weight 99.8kg same time same , so a 4.3kg gain roughly in a week, bloat has eased somewhat , although bloated still it isnt completly unbearable, back pumps still there when driving. diet has been ok although yesterday was a disaster .

Day 10 - bloat subsiding weight down to 97.8kg but still up 2.3 from 10 days ago. Today :

6am - wake and gh 5iu subq abs
6.40am - crea pump and bioplus
7.00am quads - after warmup sets 4 x superset squats /leg ext followed by 4 x heavy sets leg ext great quad pump but ran out of time other commitments so will train hams with arms tomorrow.
7.45am - slin 8iu
7.50am - 56/ glucose 10g glut 10g creatine
8.05am - whey shake 65g pro
8.45am - 50g oats with 30g raisins plus 55g whey pro

Next meal 12pm pro fats and so on for the day,forgot my waxy maise this am,hate that throws me off lol when I don't have evrything exact.

Have you given any thought on going IM with the GH?
I will have a look 2morrow morning, for the log that I followed with a guy using it IM.

Other than the KAK back pumps hows the pumps while you in the gym, anything happening yet ?
(Im running a small cycle(lack of $$$ and a mini vacation) just for some motivation, and I'm having a hard time sitting straight up in a chair, and like you say, the driving sux from the back pumps, Its weird, sometimes I get them, and sometimes I don't get them even on fairly high dose ?!?!?! )

I did one forearm I M inj the other day,I am in two minds at the moment because of the "spot" reducing properties of the gh.I haven't driven much because of the long weekend but backups still there lol.today weighed in at 99.2kg,strength up .its strange I feel slightly bloated slightly fat but man I haven't felt this thick before,all muscles feel swolle,

Pumps in the gym are a dream ,I always struggled getting bicep pumps and it shows lol but of late 2 sets in and bam swollen

Still feeling my way for the perfect combination as there is so many elements to my cycle this year.put slin to 10iu pw carbs 80g right now I feel this is my limit.wasn't so much the hit but an hour later I knew I was on that fine line.I went to gym slightly later today and added oats and raisens an hour before as dj suggested and I felt a lot more comfortable at the gym.

6.00am 5iu gh
8.00am 50g oats 30g raisens small whey shake
9.00am creapump and started sipping waxy maise
9.20am to 10.30 bi and tri waxy maise
10.34am 10 iu carb shake
10.54am 80g whey shake
11.34am 50g oats 30/ raisens / 80g whey shake