Liver and Kidneys taking strain

Hi ,

I just got my blood test back from my docter.


He said my liver and kidney is taking a serious beating.



I have not juiced in like 7 months or more.

Could it be the creatine??????
Gaba?
ZMA?
Glutemine?
High protein diet?
Not enough water?

(or result from a heavy December)

My doctor asked if I am juicing I said nope..Only creatine.

He said I should stop it as the additives sometimes are the result..



I am not a happy panda

Eish Acid sorry to hear that man....

Most probably the creatine as it does effect the kidneys.

I think take a break from everything and do a normal diet.

SNOK1986 wrote:

Eish Acid sorry to hear that man....

Most probably the creatine as it does effect the kidneys.

I think take a break from everything and do a normal diet.

have to agree there.... hope you getting lots of water in...

Urikunyanya kunwa doro !

stop all drinking of alcohol,try decrease your salt intake, up your water to 3-4l a day and then add in some milk thistle/legalon and then see how it goes...

Yes .... The booze may be the problem...

Salt is very min . Water I have to increase.

Just started my milk thistle this week.

Whats your B.P. and blood sugar levels like Acid ?

dude, creatine will hammer your kidneys, stop it asap.. I would stop all supplements except the milk thistle however that will not help your kidneys..

as dj said, increase water to extreme levels, I am drinking 10-12 glasses of water a day due to my issues with kidneys, I piss 3 times a night, thats how much water is in my body.. that excludes the leter of water I drink at gym...

I can give you a list of natrual things to help your kidneys... how is your blood pressure doing if your kidney is taking strain your heart and blood pressure will be next.. if you don't fix it asap your left side of your heart will start to enlarge.

They are 100% normal

what did u he notice? protein or blood and protein in the urine? how many mg ?

He never went into it ..

He just said over the phone.

My liver and kidneys are taking a serious beating and asked if I am on any steroid..

I said no..

Then he said lay off the creatine and drink water and stop drinking what ever I am drinking

If he says a serious problem it must be blood and protein. look after yourself, if you want to fix your liver milk thistle wont help you need SAMe it is the only supplement to regenerate liver cells.

Look after yourself bro.. i've been down that road before... When a doctor says that you have allready caused damage and need to look after yourself.. I swear drown yourself with water its the best start it gives your kidneys a break while you sort your body out.. If you in JHB I can give you a number of my natrual doctor he has really helped me like you can't believe.. I have spent tens of thousands of rand on my health and he made up a few things for me and I stopped pissing blood and my bp lowered and my liver cells started looking great.

You doing any form of party drugs? Are you boozing every day? For a doc to say that your kidneys and liver are under strain you have been abusing something for sure.Drinking on a weekend will not put heavy strain on your kidenys or liver. btw how heavy was december? and yes it can still be a post effect from there depending on how heavy it was. There are many "Heavy" definitions

@ 00pump

He never said I have and proper damage.. But he did say what ever I am taking or drinking I must stop it , as my liver and kidneys are under heavy stress..

One thing I failed to mention was I have been cycling with Creatin. I pretty much have not stopped taking it for 7 - 8 months now. (morning , pre, and post = tea spoon)

I am dropping the creatine completely , upping the water and milk thistle . I have never pissed blood and my pee is normally clear like water.

Only this week and last week my kidneys kinda feel painfull.

@Lesa

I dont do any form of party drug except the occasional five knuckle shuffle ?? Does that count?

My December was heavy. I was pretty much drunk for 2.5 weeks .
Heavy = one or two days = 1 bottle brandy... shooters.. so on.

Since new years I only drink one day a week.......

I do inject myself once a week with B12 and Complex. Other than that.

I drink alot of water.. Maybe not as much as I use to , but I do drink over 2 L easy.


Thank you for you help..

00pump please email me at EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED
I want to hear about the natural route encase I need it

acidkidsa wrote:

@ 00pump

He never said I have and proper damage.. But he did say what ever I am taking or drinking I must stop it , as my liver and kidneys are under heavy stress..

One thing I failed to mention was I have been cycling with Creatin. I pretty much have not stopped taking it for 7 - 8 months now. (morning , pre, and post = tea spoon)

I am dropping the creatine completely , upping the water and milk thistle . I have never pissed blood and my pee is normally clear like water.

Only this week and last week my kidneys kinda feel painfull.

@Lesa

I dont do any form of party drug except the occasional five knuckle shuffle ?? Does that count?

My December was heavy. I was pretty much drunk for 2.5 weeks .
Heavy = one or two days = 1 bottle brandy... shooters.. so on.

Since new years I only drink one day a week.......

I do inject myself once a week with B12 and Complex. Other than that.

I drink alot of water.. Maybe not as much as I use to , but I do drink over 2 L easy.


Thank you for you help..

00pump please email me at EMAIL ADDRESS REMOVED
I want to hear about the natural route encase I need it

Strange that doesnt sounds very heavy for kidneys and liver to take strain. Very possible that creatine is the culprit. Just stop it for a while

y0 acid, check my hypertension article I wrote it has all the goodies you can take.. like Lesa said, just stop the creatine and up the water and that alone should be enough... However I would still take some of the supps I stated in my article to get things back on track.

Will be printing it out and reading it tonight.

Drinking shit loads of water , and will be getting all the supps this week.

Dropped the creatine and Gaba totally .

I read Gaba and people with liver issues should not take it.

I will do bloods in a month again. If they come back fine , it was the creatine + after effects from Dec.

Dude, get some Legalon from the doc...sort you out one time.

also, 2L water is actually fuckall...you need to up it to around 6L a day...

You are pissing 3 times a night cause your liver is fucked bro, thats why. I drink around 8 liters water a day...i piss once a night.

Ever heard of sclerosis? People die from it, you young, dont be a doos towards yourself...on AAS, we need to take extra care bro.

Noted ,

Water consumption will be increased . Legalon will be organist .

I pissing load mainly during the night.

Extra care is a understatement

Saizen wrote:

Dude, get some Legalon from the doc...sort you out one time.

also, 2L water is actually fuckall...you need to up it to around 6L a day...

You are pissing 3 times a night cause your liver is fucked bro, thats why. I drink around 8 liters water a day...i piss once a night.

Ever heard of sclerosis? People die from it, you young, dont be a doos towards yourself...on AAS, we need to take extra care bro.

Fookit ! 8 litres ? Do you carry an external bladder around that prevents you from pissing? I drink 3 litres of water per day, there's nothing wrong with my liver and kidneys, and I also piss 3 times a night.

Easy way to determine how many of 250ml glasses of water u need a day is take ur body weight round it off to the nearest 10....so im 92kgs so the closest 10 is 90 i have 9 glasses of 250ml of water a day.

SNOK1986 wrote:

Easy way to determine how many of 250ml glasses of water u need a day is take ur body weight round it off to the nearest 10....so im 92kgs so the closest 10 is 90 i have 9 glasses of 250ml of water a day.

So that's 2.25 litres. The watercart up top there takes 8 litres.

ja i see that its prob damaging his kidneys...to much water can actual damage ur kidneys.

Or he is like huge like the biggest person ever known to man kind.

I am upping my water dosage anyways.

I recon I drink +2L I will take it to 4 - 5 now.

Then get tested again

SNOK1986 wrote:

Easy way to determine how many of 250ml glasses of water u need a day is take ur body weight round it off to the nearest 10....so im 92kgs so the closest 10 is 90 i have 9 glasses of 250ml of water a day.

Look this is just a general rule for a everyday person maybe for a bodybuilder who is on gear, training in at the gym an extra litre or 2 wont be bad since u r sweting out the fluids and need to rehydrate.