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18 Jul 2014 11:50 - 18 Jul 2014 11:52 #172223 by Rhino
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Hey Gents

Well as you all no I've been battling with a trapped nerve off and on for years now since I was in my early 20's. I've been to Orthopedic surgeons,Doctors,physio,Chiro's and for deal tissue massages(remember even my own mother is a Doctor) so I've tried everything and been given a variety of diagnosis from rotator cuff to torn rear delt.
If you look back to when I first joined the forum you'll see me asking about uneven rear delt development..
Well Adim put me in contact with Doctari and without even seeing me the genius nailed my problem on the head. I went for Proper stress view X-rays and it turns out I have a degenerative disc C5/C6 :( now I no it's terrible news but it a huge relief to finally no that it's a fixable issue and I can look forward to a better quality life style because the last 3 months have been HELL.

I've got an appointment with a neurosurgeon on the 11 of next month all we'll go from there but disc replacement surgery looks like what's going to be on the cards. Look I can still train obviously no squats deadlifts or any excercise that puts strain on the Cervical spine and we'll only no once I've seen the specialist how long the recovery will be but apparently with it being just the one disc it won't be that bad but it all depends on how badly herniated the disc is.

A big thanks to Both the Boss and Doctari

I'll keep you all posted on what the prognosis is. What a shit cycle even though I've put on 10kg training hasn't been fun and now stuck with a swollen mouth from my wisdoms and I've got surgery on my back to look forward to.

Has anybody had a degenerative disc issue before and gone through the surgery ?

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18 Jul 2014 12:02 #172229 by Muscleaddict
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Sorry to hear bud but like you said, now you can at least get it sorted out. Keep us posted and stay positive.
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18 Jul 2014 12:11 #172233 by Oupa
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Sorry to hear, good news is it can be sorted out. Shot Doc & Admin for taking care of a brother :)

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18 Jul 2014 12:16 #172235 by admin
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Glad you found the problem and that it can be fixed. Good luck going forward and keep us updated on your road to recovery.
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18 Jul 2014 12:20 #172238 by Nate40
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Sorry to hear about the disc but at least now you know a way forward to sort this out bro.
Thanks to the boss for putting you in touch with someone who knows what they talking about. This proves how many quacks there are out there just making a buck.
Keep us updated on what the neurosurgeon says bro, and wishing you all the best as always!

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18 Jul 2014 12:21 #172239 by Rhino
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Ye I could have cried yesterday when I got the news. I could just see myself shrinking in the mirror :lol:
Ye I'm just trying to stay positive, I'll be dropping the long esters early so that I can start bridging and I'll decide what route to take after the MRI and talking to the specialist.

Thanks for the support gents

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18 Jul 2014 12:27 #172240 by mike123
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Strenght bru ...
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18 Jul 2014 12:58 #172242 by kkx250
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Rhino wrote: Look I can still train

Like your attitude..
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18 Jul 2014 13:35 #172250 by FIllet
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Sorry to hear this, all the best.
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18 Jul 2014 13:37 #172251 by T-Style
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Hey bud you finally found the source that's a plus even though it's not what you wanted to hear. Good luck and stay strong.

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18 Jul 2014 14:10 #172253 by Kuifie
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Good luck to you bud, at least you found the source, you can haveit fixed and get your life back on track. Its horrid to live with something like that, and in most cases it is easily fixable.

Dont worry about the shrinking man, it is a setback, but not permanent, now you can come back in better than before, and give the weights hell.

Good luck man, keep us updated.

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19 Jul 2014 10:00 #172273 by Rhino
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Hey Gents

What are your thoughts? So should I have to go under the knife I'll obviously tell them that I'm on gear as the Equi will still be in my system. So would it be an idea to drop to a TRT dose when I go in and run it for the month I'm in recovery and out of the gym? Surely that'll help me wasting away to much and doing a pct while in hospital for 3 days and unable to eat sounds impossible( they operate through the back of your throat.. :(

I'm just trying to think of ways of dealing with this hurdle and nothing will be set in stone until I've sat down with the neurosurgeon

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19 Jul 2014 18:42 #172277 by RonTheSaveg
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So sorry to hear this news Rhino. Imagine you must have been broken to hear this! I would have cried like a baby! I have no doubt you will push through this and come out being an even stronger man! You from Benoni, of course you will! The boys from the East are hardcore MF's. :lol: :lol: Stay positive bru! All the best man!

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19 Jul 2014 19:50 #172278 by Nikit4
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Good luck rhino x
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19 Jul 2014 20:47 - 19 Jul 2014 20:47 #172279 by Oupa
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Rhino wrote: Hey Gents

What are your thoughts? So should I have to go under the knife I'll obviously tell them that I'm on gear as the Equi will still be in my system. So would it be an idea to drop to a TRT dose when I go in and run it for the month I'm in recovery and out of the gym? Surely that'll help me wasting away to much and doing a pct while in hospital for 3 days and unable to eat sounds impossible( they operate through the back of your throat.. :(

I'm just trying to think of ways of dealing with this hurdle and nothing will be set in stone until I've sat down with the neurosurgeon


I also went for surgery a while ago, and what i did was...

I finished my Test/Tren cycle, did a full PCT and went for surgery. After surgery i used peptides and lost a very minimal amount of muscle and my recovery was what the doctor called 'profound' lol
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19 Jul 2014 21:00 #172280 by Pyroclasm
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Hey bud! Really sorry to read this and it annoys me that these things never happen to bad people. Had a nose op while on a Test-En/EQ cycle and the doctor described my recovery in afrikaans as 'something of a miracle'. So pending approval from MA, I get climb onto the HGH before your op. I have been advising this for a while now and the feedback is great! Make sure your doc gives you some proper pain killers and not two Genpayne three times a day. Wishing you well mate!

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20 Jul 2014 06:59 #172282 by Rhino
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Ye I'm trying my best to stay posative at the moment..! I just wish I didn't have to wait nearly 3'weeks to see the specialist so that I new what I was up against and how to plan my situation.

Thanks for the support Ladies and Gents

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21 Jul 2014 09:16 #172297 by Nate40
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I know its difficult not to over analyze every little thing with possible surgery ahead, but my advice is not to stress about anything until the appointment. You have done everything you can do in the meantime. Focus on the positive only - as difficult as that is.

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21 Jul 2014 20:15 #172340 by Christian
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Hi Rhino,
Sorry to hear about your problem, but I would like to please offer you a word of advice,

When going for Disc replacement surgery it is very important to look at your current life style and what it is that you want to achieve with the disc replacement surgery. There are numerous discs on the market and it is very important that patients become informed of what they are and what they do, if you are looking at staying fit and keeping on living a active life style you want to look at preserving motion in your cervical region, if you look at your natural anatomy your disc consist of a Nucleus and a Annulus which acts as a natural shock absorber and also allows you to achieve the six degrees of motion N.L Flexion, Extension, Lateral Bending, Anterior-posterior Translation, Axial Compresion and Axial rotation. This is what your natural disc’s function is and if you look at DDD- Disc degenerative Disease where the disc is protruding into the canal it is almost guaranteed that surgery will take place… now important factor is that when going for surgery you want a disc that will restore height, de-compress the nerve and restore Lordosis which is your natural curvature of the cervical spine, and you something that will preserve motion and not Fuse. Meaning in the spine surgery there are two types of outcomes, Arthroplasty and fusion, now if you want to achieve and preserve motion you do not want fusion to take place because that will lead to further problems and Adjacent level diseases in the future which lead to the rest of your discs becoming damaged which will lead to surgery again.
What I want to come down to is, a lot of Orthopeadic and Neuro Surgeons are corrupt meaning that they get paid to use certain companies Medical devices such as cages, artificial discs and screws. Like I mentioned earlier on is that your natural disc consists of a nucleus and an annulus, now there is only once disc in the whole world that incorporates an Artificial Nucleus and Annulus into their disc which mimics the patients natural anatomy, this disc is called the M6- which stands for Six degrees of motion like explained earlier in my letter, the Nucleus of the disc is compressible meaning that axial compression can take place in the disc which also mimics the natural anatomy, the annulus allows the patient to achieve progressive resistance which means it progressively allows the patient to achieve the six degrees of motion, it also has very low profile keels which allows for primary fixation into the vertebral body to prevent the disc from migrating or subsiding.
Compared to other discs on the market, the ball and socket disc is not compressible, it cannot achieve the six degrees of motion and it leads to hyper mobility which means you move your neck to fast and there is no stopping which leads to serious problems. And this is what all the discs on the market do except the M6. So ask your surgeon about this and you are more then welcome to print this and show this to him he will know exactly what all of this means. I am in Theater almost everyday of my life and specifically in spine surgery and disc replacement surgery. Check out their website. www.spinalkinetics.com/
Best of luck
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21 Jul 2014 20:38 #172345 by Rhino
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Thanks Bud

I really appreciate that. My biggest fear is not being able to live an active life at least as good if not hopefully better than I am now.

+1 for taking the time

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21 Jul 2014 20:41 #172346 by Rhino
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I've been advised to go with Dr Weinberg at the Linksfield clinic. Do you no anything about him? Apparently he's one of the best around.
And Ny guess on how long recovery from a procedure like this take on a health 34 year old.

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21 Jul 2014 20:55 #172348 by Rhino
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I see he's one of the inventors of the Kineflex?

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21 Jul 2014 21:08 #172353 by Oupa
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ye he looks solid man

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21 Jul 2014 22:03 #172357 by Christian
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No sorry bud I dont personally know him but the m6 is way better then kineflex its made by a company called southern medical who has got a fake fda approval on their disc do your research in the m6 bud trust me.

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21 Jul 2014 22:04 #172358 by Christian
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Recovery on the m6 about 5 days

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