Ketogenic diet

Empire
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26 Mar 2012 20:00 #98410 by Empire

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No need for pre and post work out meals. Just have 6 meals a day split equally.

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ice-rip
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27 Mar 2012 11:01 #98467 by ice-rip

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Could I make this work by doing 3 days no carbs as per keto and then on every 4th day have around 100grams carbs to mix things up and have a small carb up

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Empire
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27 Mar 2012 11:08 #98468 by Empire

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then you will never get back into ketosis as it takes u 3 days or so to get back into ketosis. jsut follow a keto diet of first 14 days 0 carbs, then 1 carb up meal of +/- 200-250g of carbs, then repeat that every 7 days.

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gab
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27 Mar 2012 11:22 #98470 by gab

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ok lets say you follow keto to the t.

what can you add to make it more fat burning.
prop & t3?

how will this effect the keto.

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MCJ
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27 Mar 2012 11:34 #98472 by MCJ

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DJ wrote: then you will never get back into ketosis as it takes u 3 days or so to get back into ketosis. jsut follow a keto diet of first 14 days 0 carbs, then 1 carb up meal of +/- 200-250g of carbs, then repeat that every 7 days.

@Ice-Rip....I've been following DJ's advice the same he has given above. Trust me it works. Yeah u miss the carbs in the beginning but u get over it. I only have one carb up meal a week and that's a BIG one. I know u sound skeptical but u honestly don't lose any muscle or strength and results are amazing.

@Gab....I'm not too sure on the T3 with keto but u can def add a testosterone as test also helps u to lean out. DJ explained to me that there won't be water retension as there aren't any carbs involved. So a test and winny blend will be perfect also Yohimbine and Clen.

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gab
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27 Mar 2012 11:38 #98474 by gab

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@mcj

cool man. thanks for the reply.

might give it a shot.

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ice-rip
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27 Mar 2012 11:50 - 27 Mar 2012 11:53 #98475 by ice-rip

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Thanks guys. What do you drop your fat to on carb up days. I'm currently going to keto on 250g protein and 170grams of fat. And when do u have ur carb up meal on day 7. Is it postworkout or pre

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Empire
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27 Mar 2012 12:00 #98476 by Empire

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Yes icerip,drop fats down.have 1 single meal of carbs,before bed on a day before legs training.

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ice-rip
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27 Mar 2012 12:02 #98479 by ice-rip

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Does that amont of fat seem too high. My maintainence calories with a guesstimate bodyfat of 30% is 3000 calories on katch mckardel calculator. So I'm cutting with roughly 2600 cals /day. I'm currently weighing 110kilos and wanna drop to around 90kilos. Am I on the right track here

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Empire
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27 Mar 2012 12:05 #98480 by Empire

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I wouldn't go that high with fats. But I am not your coach.wwatch your nut intake as that will throw u out of ketosis due to carb content in nuts.

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Lady*Soul
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27 Mar 2012 14:35 #98488 by Lady*Soul

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Just a thought from someone brand new to weight loss... the Keto Diet sounds very expensive? I am on a tight budget, female, weigh 105kgs, am 1.7m tall (yep, very much overweight...) and have just started mild exercise. Have heard about ECA stacks, Heat, Clen... lots of stuff. I need help please.

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gab
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27 Mar 2012 14:40 #98489 by gab

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hi ladysoal

how much do you spend on food a month. keto might be less than normal eating or diet plans

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Lady*Soul
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27 Mar 2012 15:21 #98493 by Lady*Soul

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Hmmm... R1200 or so. Single girl, small job. I need to get started somewhere, have no energy to exercise and slow metabolism. Mega sugar-craves.

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MCJ
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27 Mar 2012 16:17 #98497 by MCJ

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Well there's one major problem already. Sugar is like crack. Its addictive lol. I've become so used to NOT having sugar. When that happens u don't get sugar cravings anymore. I just crave carbs now and then so enjoy my carb up meal. Also when u craving sugar it usually means ur natural sugar levels are crashing and by eating a balanced healthy diet this won't happen.

Yeah Keto works out expensive but what isn't these days. Works out cheaper than take out food. Especially if u buy in bulk. Keto diets are based on you lean body mass protein requirements so it differs for different people.

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ice-rip
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27 Mar 2012 16:40 #98503 by ice-rip

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Are headaches and no hunger normal for day 1 coz that's what's happening now

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Empire
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27 Mar 2012 16:45 #98505 by Empire

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Yes

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MCJ
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27 Mar 2012 16:55 #98510 by MCJ

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I never had that, but people react differently.

Is the headache etc from bloodpressure?

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Empire
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27 Mar 2012 16:58 #98511 by Empire

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Can be from low blood sugar and your body relying on carbs for energy,now its now relying on fats,so untill u reach ketosis it is normal

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MikeM1
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27 Mar 2012 17:49 #98515 by MikeM1

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Can a keto diet be used as a maintanance/lifestyle diet? Or is it purely a weightloss diet for x amount of weeks etc

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ice-rip
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27 Mar 2012 18:20 #98517 by ice-rip

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Is bloating also normal. Look and feel like a pregnant woman. Wtf

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Empire
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27 Mar 2012 18:32 #98518 by Empire

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Nope that's not normal.

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NoBitchinWeLiftHeavy
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10 Sep 2012 15:43 - 10 Sep 2012 16:09 #121612 by NoBitchinWeLiftHeavy

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Can i have coffee with no sugar on keto? another thing is im using a preworkout booster, Nutritech Maximum Performance is that ok? drizzle lemon on my fish?

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Furk
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10 Sep 2012 19:01 #121632 by Furk

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@NoBitchinWeLiftHeavy: For coffee, you need to cut the sugar and milk. Also, drink ground coffee, not cheap instant coffee as they usually contain dextrose. I go on the rule no direct source of carbs, so I would also avoid the lemon altogether, but perhaps in tiny amounts it would be ok.
The pre-workout contains sucralose, which it can cause an insulin response, but in terms of carbs it has zero. I would avoid it though

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10 Sep 2012 19:07 #121633 by Furk

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MikeM1 wrote: Can a keto diet be used as a maintanance/lifestyle diet? Or is it purely a weightloss diet for x amount of weeks etc

Because of it's monotony and restrictions, it is difficult to maintain a keto diet for longer than a cut (Targeted Ketogenic Diet being an exception IMO). Evidence shows it's possible, but for a healthy lifestyle I recommend Paleo, or at the very least eating mostly just plants and animals.

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NoBitchinWeLiftHeavy
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10 Sep 2012 20:24 #121641 by NoBitchinWeLiftHeavy

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can u guys recommend any specific brand of whey that'd be suitable for Keto?

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