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I feel like the last 7 weeks of training and trying to eat clean has been a total fing waste of my time.
I feel totally lost with this dieting shit....
Ive now emailed from the contact us page, Ill pay for a diet program from DJ, but FFS, I really need some help here.
As mentioned in older posts, I would like to lose the fat and look a bit bigger than what I am now, my goal which seems impossible is
102kg at the of next year at 6% body fat
I have managed to put on 3kg in 7 weeks only while trying to maintain a diet of 3500 cal a day.
WTF am I doing wrong here?
My meals today are as follows:
1 x pack of instant oats when I woke and 200ml of protein shake
4 boiled eggs when I got to work, no yellows
10am – 1 hake, 1 cup of mixed veg, quarter sweet potato
Same meal for lunch and 3pm
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Google bodybuilding foods, and youll get a list of foods to eat and avoid
Google fat secret and check the nutritional values of foods
Then post up how many cals you need to lose fat and you will get help from there
Use google and read through the stickies 17 more times and you will see how many things youve missed coz of all the info thats already there
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Take 2500 calories and divide into 6 meals, so u get 416 calories per meal. The first 4 meals have protein carbs and fats. The last 2 meals only proteins and fats. Of your 4 carb meals have 50% carbs,30% protein and 20% fats. Then the last 2 meals have 40% protein and 60% fats. Let me know if u need more help from there
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with those stats you'll walk onto any show in sa and clean up. its just not that easy.. be realistic with goals, maybe 2-4kgs clean a year. if that.
and regarding your diet. just by looking at it, its totally out. im eating a ton more food then that, and my diet is only 2800 calories a day, and 3200 on leg days,
go through the stickies over and over, make a conclusion, work out your stats and requirements then we can asses from there.
your diet needs to be precise and calculated, for eg, a packet of instant oats? im guessing that's 50g raw weight. my gf eats that per meal kinda thing. and a quarter sweet potato? an average sized potato is MAYBE 200-250g. now a quarter of that? also only 50g? my better half is on 125g potato a meal.you see where im getting at? if you had to measure everything you'll get a massive fright at what you actually eating in calories,
start from scratch, get a plan and execute it.
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Ya PP
I think its becoming a cost thing now, how does one get in so much food for cheap, im spending money like mad trying to keep up with this.
Rem that before I eat, I make sure my 2 kids and wife east first, when it comes to what is left for me to spend on food I need, I cant afford 10 packs of chicken and nuts and avo's at R11 an avo for fats etc.
As for my goal, understood.
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Cal in 1 gran of
fat - 9
protein - 4
carbs - 4
This then means, for 1 of my 6 meals to hit 416cal
I would need to eat
Protein
1 x Chicken breast at 34.5 grams (x4 to get cal) = 138cal
1 x sweet potato at 52 grams (x4 to get cal) = 208cal
Almond Nuts at 7.78 grams (x9 to get cal) = 70.02
Making my total for that meal = 416.02
Does this look more or less right, still need to factor in my last 2 meals and my breakfast and eggs etc
1 x chicken breast of 34.5 grams is very small????
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just off the top of my head I can give a +- weighted figure,
for eg, you looking to get 34g of protein in from chicken, that is around 150g fillet.
your potato to get 52g of carbs is around a 250g odd potato (might be more or less as I used white potato figures as its what I eat) ..
for example, this is one of my exact meals;
150g chicken (33g protein, 3g fats)
100g green beans (2g protein, 7g carbs)
100g broccoli (2,7g protein, 7g carbs)
250g potato (3.3g protein, 42g carbs)
and on average my meals are also around the 450 calorie mark, some vary tho.
but its all just to give you an idea
also as for the food, its actually cheaper to eat this way, then to buy take outs and eat shit from garages and restaurants, find a good butcher who you can make a deal with (I pay on average 29/kg of chicken fillet) then its your eggs, veggies and potato. I know its not cheap, but in comparison to how the average person eats on takeouts and luxuries. its a bargain..
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So for your meal 150g chicken breast has 33g of protein, and 3g of fat. 300g sweet potato has 51g of carbs and 4.5g of protein so u there have pretty much your meal and then u add 5ml of olive oil and tada! Done. Yes it's small but u are starting out small and then increasing when your metabolism is firing. No point in jumping into 3500 calories and your metabolism is slow and sluggish and u end up putting on fat because u essentially are eating to much.
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I eat 3 chicken breasts in a day at 100grams per breast
and maybe 1 cup of rice or sweet potato split into 3 meals, after reading the above and looking at it in my kitchen and pulling my hair out, I have to eat
9 chicken breasts as they 100grams each
3 x sweet potato
etc
I bought bulk packs of chicken from food lovers market at 12 breasts of 100grams per fillet and that was R88
There is no way I can afford R88 or R70 a day on chicken breasts as well as all the other foods
Advice please
Where can I get chicken for R29 a kilo like PP?
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That's almost R100 a day on food, that's R3000 a month to feed my body???
Please then explain to me how some of the guys at my gym as big as they are can afford this when they cant even afford clothing without holes in them, and yes im talking about the lower working class who only earn R5000 a month?
How do they do it? Genetics or something else they eating?
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There is 1 guy who won the overalls of one show in kzn. His diet contained 1 piece nof protein a day either fish or chicken and 1 30g servng of whey protein...won overalls cos he was peeled to the bone. Also they train hard. Work hard and push the limits wjere alot of the time u don't.
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Please review my diet plan for a single day and let me know what u think
8:30 meal is mince fyi
the rest is chicken and avo and oats and protein shake etc
http://imgur.com/DlOBc7g
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R3000+ a month on food is something I've had to accept. This is a damn expensive lifestyle. You could probably get it down to R2500 if you don't eat much steak and go with fish/chicken/eggs for your main protein sources and brown rice/potatoes/oats for carbs. 600g lean meat per day & 6 eggs & 2 or 3 whey shakes is already R60+ right there before you look at carbs/fats. :blink:
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AlexRon wrote: Ok so im under eating, based on what I eat, im actually starving myself
I eat 3 chicken breasts in a day at 100grams per breast
and maybe 1 cup of rice or sweet potato split into 3 meals, after reading the above and looking at it in my kitchen and pulling my hair out, I have to eat
9 chicken breasts as they 100grams each
3 x sweet potato
etc
I bought bulk packs of chicken from food lovers market at 12 breasts of 100grams per fillet and that was R88
There is no way I can afford R88 or R70 a day on chicken breasts as well as all the other foods
Advice please
Where can I get chicken for R29 a kilo like PP?
best friend is a butcher, and his family own 2 branches. so I get help a friend out prices
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and going on to the black guy genetics again, I think we all know of a few in our gyms, we have 2 absolutely massive, shredded giants. mid 40's. and I know they are clean. they are manual workers and get by on very little protein, no supplements etc. but look incredible haha.
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DJ was spot on about this not working, however, I did get new measurements and
BOOM - I'm 16% body fat
Yea baby!!!!
So my new diet plan is looking good and as follows:
6am
400ml water with 30grams protein with 60grams jungle oats (not instant oats) and 10grams of almonds nuts blended
10am
150gram chicken fillet
100gram brocelli
100gram mixed veg
250gram sweet potato
1 TBsp of oil oil
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400ml water with 30grams protein with 60grams jungle oats (not instant oats) and 10grams of almonds nuts blended
3pm
150gram chicken fillet
100gram brocelli
100gram mixed veg
250gram sweet potato
1 TBsp of oil oil
5:30:
400ml water with 30grams protein with 60grams jungle oats (not instant oats) and 10grams of almonds nuts blended
8:30pm
240grams lean beef mince
half avo
10pm
1 TBsp peanut butter
Some yogurt - not sure how much yet
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Alex i have 2 little boys and a wife to. ITS HARD BOET but if you want it bad enough you will always make a plan. Easy to say yes, luckily for me i just stopped a rather expensive hobby and i am selling all my stuff for my year and couple month prep for a show next year. As for the chicken cheap.....not gonna happen. I get wholesale price at a very well known butcher and thats still R39 a kg for a 7kg slab of chicken fillet.
Just dont be deterred and get what you can afford. Like PP keeps saying its a Marathon and not s sprint.
Thats just my 5c
Eat Clean and Stay Lean!!!
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