new cycle till july

ok just came off second 2 week cycle of tren and dbol.
been off now for 3weeks evrything still working fine.

got about 16 weeks to play with before i get busted by ramadaan/fast

cycle dbol 40 mg a day for first 6 weeks
tren acetate 50mg a day first 4 weeks then switch to
tren enanthate in week 4 50mg every 4 days in conjunction with the ace.
drop the ace in week 5 and continue with enanthate at 200mg every 4th day till week 12
winstrol tabs 30mg a day from week 12 to 16
Test cypionate from week 1 till week 16.
last day should be beginning of fast taking 1000mg sustanon on day 1
and day 10 and let it taper down.
will use the fast to my advantage to cut some fat.
pct maybe ,maybe not never been an issue for me.
maybe start clomid 15 to 20 days after last shot
forgot to ask the question anything wrong here besides the pct?

Why? was thinking of dropping the first sustanon shot bcause the cypionate would still be effective at least 10 days after last shot.Then doing a 1000mg on day 10 of the fast.
pct clomid.

Is this for you or your dog?

Trolling?

I assume so.
If not then you sir, are an idiot

quint wrote: ok just came off second 2 week cycle of tren and dbol.is this a typo?
been off now for 3weeks evrything still working fine.

got about 16 weeks to play with before i get busted by ramadaan/fastwhat about your time off?

cycle dbol 40 mg a day for first 6 weeks4 weeks is long enough
tren acetate 50mg a day first 4 weeks then switch to
tren enanthate in week 4 50mg every 4 days in conjunction with the ace.why switch the tren??
drop the ace in week 5 and continue with enanthate at 200mg every 4th day till week 12
winstrol tabs 30mg a day from week 12 to 16
Test cypionate from week 1 till week 16.why are you running this so much longer than tren enanthate?
last day should be beginning of fast taking 1000mg sustanon on day 1
and day 10 and let it taper down.what???!
will use the fast to my advantage to cut some fat.
pct maybe ,maybe not never been an issue for me.seriously? Tren with no pct? And no time off? good luck with that mate
maybe start clomid 15 to 20 days after last shot
forgot to ask the question anything wrong here besides the pct?

then educate why am i an idiot and no its not for my dog.

See my 2nd post above, and clarify those highlighted points...
What exactly did your last cycle consist of and when did it end? What cycle history before that?

No to be rude but you need to read up and research a lot.your whole base for cycling is wrong.its a big problem.go to and through these.
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/information

i did 2, 2 week cycles of tren and dbol(which wasnt long) with a 3week break inbetween and 3 weeks after. this was long
enough for me to recover feel fine work fine.

2. my time off was the 3 weeks after my first 2 week cycle and 3 weeks after my 2nd 2 week cycle.
3. 4 should be long enough but i want the full strength gain from the dbol and want to get the best synergy with the tren
4.I want to take my cycle write up to the fast/ramadaan so that i dont lose as much muscle during the next 30 days bcause i wont b able to train properly if at all.
5 being a long ester i think the sustanon would prevent muscle loss during this phase of extreme nutrient and calorie depletion.
6. i will take time off after this as for the pct ill be using clomid only lots of people dont agree with me
on this but i seem to recover very quickly after cyles
Can u tell me if my thinking is flawed im willing to get less old school and aggressive with the pct if needed
o ja the test cyp i will be taking 500mg every 4 days until the end

no prob u just trying to help but i cant see where my base is off
1000mg test per week
400 mg of tren per week
40mg dbol per day
i dont really understand where the base or ratios are wrong
not being arrogant just trying to understand.

forgot to mention i've been cycling on/off close to 15 years.
but nothing as complicated as things have gotten in the last couple of years.

quint wrote: i did 2, 2 week cycles of tren and dbol(which wasnt long) with a 3week break inbetween and 3 weeks after. this was long
enough for me to recover feel fine work fine.

2. my time off was the 3 weeks after my first 2 week cycle and 3 weeks after my 2nd 2 week cycle.
3. 4 should be long enough but i want the full strength gain from the dbol and want to get the best synergy with the tren
4.I want to take my cycle write up to the fast/ramadaan so that i dont lose as much muscle during the next 30 days bcause i wont b able to train properly if at all.
5 being a long ester i think the sustanon would prevent muscle loss during this phase of extreme nutrient and calorie depletion.
6. i will take time off after this as for the pct ill be using clomid only lots of people dont agree with me
on this but i seem to recover very quickly after cyles
Can u tell me if my thinking is flawed im willing to get less old school and aggressive with the pct if needed
o ja the test cyp i will be taking 500mg every 4 days until the end

ok firstly your whole idea of cycling is miles off mate. a 2 week cycle of dbol and tren??? Where on earth did you get a daft idea like that from? That wont do anything but shut down your hpta. Anything you might think you gained was prob water.

As for recovery, how do you know you recovered well? Did you do blood tests? because i can guarantee you didnt recover. Right now you shouldnt even be thinking of cycling, especially if you are gonna be unable to train straight after, that is a sure fire way to wate your money and lose any gains.

I dont think you should touch any steroids, let alone tren. I dont think you know the first thing about using steroids effectively, let alone safely.

A basic pct needs to include clomid AND kessar, but a pct for tren needs to include ovidrel!

quint wrote: no prob u just trying to help but i cant see where my base is off
1000mg test per week
400 mg of tren per week
40mg dbol per day
i dont really understand where the base or ratios are wrong
not being arrogant just trying to understand.

The idea of that is sound, but your implementation of it is not. The time off, the lack of pct, the switching of tren ester, the timing of your cycle before a fast, the 2 week dbol and tren cycles.....

Im also VERY concerned by the fact that you seem to think recovery is not a problem for you because you "feel fine".

If this is the way you have been cycling for 15 years then i am very concerned about your blood levels, hpta, testes, liver and kidneys.

Have you kept your gains? What have they been over this time?

1. switched the trn ester cant takke daily jabs
2. tren and dbol gaind 9kg in those 2 cycles and kept 7kg dont knock those short ones till u try
3. I wont be able to train as effectively in the fast but my goal for this time would b to cut fat while preserving muscle loss with the test
maybe i shoud shorten the cycle to 12 weeks then and do a proper pct.
I dont know how that is going to help me during the fasting period though.
and i've been around for 40years i think i know a thing or 2 mayb we just dont share the same opinion but thanks for the help

blood pressure always been fine,kidneys and liver values fine did not do test levels but gains went from 69kg as teenager to a solid 108kg being my heaviest.Off everything i tend to even out now at 95kg at 1.82m.
Had a baby a year ago sex drive good for a 40year old

Use and abuse hey..

Is this a joke?Gained 38kg with cycles like that?What is your bodyfat?And I think you need to get some blood tests done and some proper education.No offence but you are talking like a typical school boy with the "dianabol" syndrome.

So you're telling me you gained 3.5kg of lean muscles from 2 weeks of dbol and tren? I dont believe even tren ace will be taking effect within that time frame. I just find this very hard to believe... And you may have had a baby, but I am still concerned about your hpta... it doesnt sounds like you have given yourself much chance to recover. Your cycles are very old school, in the sense that they are commonly regarded as reckless nowadays.

you grow during the 3 weeks off between cycles as well.u dont only grow on cycle.the break being short means u keep all ur gains and strength till the next cycle.As for the reckless comment old school cycles are generally much safer than cycles being used today.I could open a pharmacy with all the compounds some people put in their bodies on a moderate cycle today.guys use this chemical to offset another chemical and another to counter the next sounds dangerous to me.
the body heals itself.old school body builders didnt die for their sport but today they do.
just my opinion.

These were not the only type of cycles i used.ive done 4,6,8,12 week cycles before mixing different compounds always using test as a base.I have done pct as well.My last 2 cycles were purely because i cant handle the acne i get on the longer cycles anymore.But i can honestly say i feel much better when coming off the short 2 weekers than any of the others.My mood,libido,strength and weight are much more stable.
just my experience doesnt mean it will be the same for everyone all im saying is dont knock it till youve tried it

quint wrote: These were not the only type of cycles i used.ive done 4,6,8,12 week cycles before mixing different compounds always using test as a base.I have done pct as well.My last 2 cycles were purely because i cant handle the acne i get on the longer cycles anymore.But i can honestly say i feel much better when coming off the short 2 weekers than any of the others.My mood,libido,strength and weight are much more stable.
just my experience doesnt mean it will be the same for everyone all im saying is dont knock it till youve tried it

Your cycles are reckless and you may think you are wise in your own eyes but sound foolish,your logic defies pharmacology and responses to steroids. Either you are trolling, have a too high view of yourself or are delusional. Please post your pics to prove me wrong. Besides that Tren does not give those kind of gains you were holding a lot of water from the dbol and probably fat. I wouldn't waste more time trying to educate you, as I doubt you will listen. Also fat loss through fasting? hmmm why is that flawed?

Guys just 2 remind you,this is the sick b@stard who wanted 2 inject his dog Spartacus,let's not give him any attention!He is clearly not worth it the dumb fool.I'd say discussion closed???

you dont know my cycles fool but you call them "reckless" mmm where did i here that before use your own brain.I never once said my way was the only way. in fact i specifically made mention of the point that everyone is not the same and this is only my experience.you come on here and call me delusional and arrogant,you dont know me as if i dont kno how to cycle and pct.you cant educate me you dont have the knowledge or qualifications. im trying something new it works for me.
you pass comments like"fat loss through fasting mmmm why is that flawed."I wont even bother answering u,all it shows is your overinflated opinion of urself assumin i dont kno one of the most fundamental aspects of dieting.I dont have a choice fool i have to fast and i might as well make the most of it.
i've seen cycles posted on here countless times using the exact protocol and chemicals which i have suggested
with the same people on here giving it the thumbs up
if i hadnt mentioned the fast and lack of pct this cycle wouldnt have been a problem,but now all the cycles i've done are
supposingly reckless.. ha ha good one as if you had a running commentary on my life. ill be doing it anyway ill
do the proper pct bcause i can see many here are "concerned" about my health wish me the best
my unopinionated genuine response.