Re: putting together my first cycle

Stanabolic
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04 Mar 2012 13:36 #95659 by Stanabolic

putting together my first cycle was created by Stanabolic

Well you see my connections are limited to just 1 person and I haven't heard anything bad about Axio so - just went with it. Why? Is it shite?

I decided not to run anything other than test because I'd like to see how I respond to that alone 1st.

As for the adex or letro - I will have one of the two on hand throughout. I just wanted opinions on the ovidrel and then I can buy the whole lot together. Hopefully I'll begin in the next 2 weeks.

I'm keen on the ovidrel because I keep can keep it around at room temop which is much more convenient for me.

Someone suggested that I bridge with dbol. Any thoughts on that?

@DJ - what are your thoughts on ovidrel instead of pregnyl? I understand its an extremely light cycle but I prefer to be on the safe side of things and as I said before, keeping it at room temp will be easier for me.

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VonD
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04 Mar 2012 13:50 - 04 Mar 2012 13:53 #95663 by VonD

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bridge with winstrol not dbol

.winny will harden you up and help to maintain your size you have gained.

Axio is fine we just prefer PGW an LP products.

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Stanabolic
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04 Mar 2012 18:28 #95674 by Stanabolic

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Ehh I'm not sure how this posted as another thread. Haha, sorry about that. I'll see about the winny. I have no idea how much the stuff costs compared to dbol which I believe is pretty cheap. I'll get a quote when I purchase my pct goods. Guys, thanks for the input so far hey. I appreciate it.

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Kkkyle
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04 Mar 2012 19:06 #95684 by Kkkyle

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in most cases oral winstrol is about the same price as dbols

Love the buuuuuuuuuuuuuurn! :evil:

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Stanabolic
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05 Mar 2012 13:55 #95813 by Stanabolic

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Ok nice. So let me just get this straight quick - test only cycle doesn't actually require HCG or ovidrel in the PCT? Aaand if I do bridge with winny, then I would have to add one of the two in, yea?

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00pump
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05 Mar 2012 14:05 #95815 by 00pump

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Now where would you have got that idea?

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Stanabolic
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05 Mar 2012 14:22 - 05 Mar 2012 14:24 #95821 by Stanabolic

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PCT #1 shows only nolvadex and clomid as PCT for cycles containing only one compound, but I just took another look at I see it has dbol in there too. In the sample cycle section it includes HCG in the PCT for a test and dbol cycle as well. I just want to clear that up for myself. Its no problem getting it. I'm just curious...

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00pump
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05 Mar 2012 14:37 #95823 by 00pump

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You may get away without it, and age plays a factor in it too, but for the price of hCG I would rather include it, once you get experienced you will know whether you need it or not.

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Stanabolic
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05 Mar 2012 14:55 #95830 by Stanabolic

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Great. Thanks Pump.

Ok, so now I've got my test cyp and I know I need my nolvadex, clomid and HCG or ovidrel.
Now its just the anti-estrogen to keep on hand. Adex is incredibly expensive compared to everything else and in the drug profile area on here it says that it has the same sides as letro just minus the possible blood clots. How about Aromasin? Same sides it seems but seeing as its in Doctari's PCT it must be pretty decent. It is usually quite pricey like adex?

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00pump
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05 Mar 2012 15:04 #95833 by 00pump

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Aromasin is pretty pricey. You may not require an AI so get yourself Letro and if you do see you do require an AI then for further cycles you can purchase Adex.

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Stanabolic
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05 Mar 2012 15:16 #95837 by Stanabolic

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Alright that's fine. Thanks again everyone for the input.

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Stanabolic
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15 Mar 2012 23:27 #97313 by Stanabolic

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I should be receiving all of my pct and the letro early next week and then I start this cycle.
In the beginner's bulking cycle on this site it shows the dose split and 3 days between each shot. Under the testcyp profile it says it has a half life of 14 days and can do weekly shots.
Can I just pin once a week with 4ml(400mg)? Are there any cons to this?

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Inja
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16 Mar 2012 15:32 #97416 by Inja

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you may pin once a week yes.
The more frequent you pin, the more stable your blood levels will be. Once a week give rises and dips of around 100mg esterified if I remember. Twice a week effectively halves that fluctuation.
More stable blood levels lead to better gains, but more importantly really help to prevent side effects, as rises and fall in all associated hormones (estrogen being a big one) really magnifies the side effects.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view

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Stanabolic
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17 Mar 2012 14:35 #97532 by Stanabolic

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Interesting. Thanks Inja.
I'll keep 3 days between each shot then as shown in the sample cycle.

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Stanabolic
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20 Mar 2012 15:22 #97892 by Stanabolic

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So I went to dischem today to grab some needles and syringes. It was all very convenient as they had boxes full of 3ml syringes with the 23g needles all on the shelf and ready to go. My question is this: can I draw the test from the vial with the 23g or do I need a thick needle for that? The reason I ask is because I youtubed it and a doctor demonstrates pinning test in the delt and he draws with an 18g and replaces it with the 23 to inject.

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gorilla
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20 Mar 2012 15:34 #97893 by gorilla

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Its fine just gonna take longer!

Lets go!

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Stanabolic
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20 Mar 2012 19:32 #97910 by Stanabolic

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Ok perfect. Thanks.

Tomorrow morning will be the first pin!!

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gorilla
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20 Mar 2012 19:36 #97912 by gorilla

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Good luck bro! Post them results!

Lets go!

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VonD
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20 Mar 2012 19:36 #97913 by VonD

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good luck just follow proper injection protocol...we dont want any infection

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Stanabolic
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21 Mar 2012 15:19 #97949 by Stanabolic

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It has been done!

I feel a bit weird about it but everything went smoothly.

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Stanabolic
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22 Mar 2012 11:37 #98054 by Stanabolic

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Damn leg feels like it was kicked in by Cung Le today!

How long does testcyp typically take to kick in? 2 weeks?

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VonD
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22 Mar 2012 12:06 #98062 by VonD

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4-5weeks

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Empire
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22 Mar 2012 13:07 #98078 by Empire

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good luck using it for the rest of the cycle,injection pain is terrible with shitty brands.

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Stanabolic
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22 Mar 2012 13:37 #98085 by Stanabolic

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Agg the injection itself was painless and I felt no pain until this morning.

While getting klapped by Cung Le must be horrible, I don't't find the pain to be worse than a shot of Neurobion in the ass. Got those weekly so I think I'll be ok with this.

I was under the impression that Axio Labs was a decent brand. No PGW but decent enough.

Just how shitty are we talking about here? Other than painful shots, is there anything I should be worried about?

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gab
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22 Mar 2012 13:45 #98087 by gab

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i have never used any axio lab gear or any of their other products.
i heard they were ok at some stage but has gone down in their quality as of late.

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