Nomatest 300 and Winstrol cycle

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23 Aug 2011 15:43 #73684 by STUARTF
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Alot will depend on your diet, gym routine/intensity, as well as genetics.

I would expect to put on at least 3-6kg of lean dry muscle with that cycle. The tests will give you some quality size and then the winstrol will harden you up and keep water retention low towards the end. Like I said diet will be the key factor. Perhaps you can speak to DJ for a cuctom diet or post your diet here so we can look at it.

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23 Aug 2011 17:54 #73698 by Quazzimodo
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Who is DJ? Caus I would like a custom diet. I dont have a specific diet, just watch what I eat keeping protein high and carbs low. Whey Gold Standard proetein, Amino's, glutamine, multi vitamins ( would probably do b-complex while on my cycle).

Do you have any suggestion for a diet.

Looks like I almost have everything sorted. I am glad I did alot of research and got some solid advice. I didnt want to just jump into this learning while I'm on the cycle.

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23 Aug 2011 18:05 #73699 by Fakey_AK
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Quazzimodo wrote: Who is DJ?


This is DJ


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23 Aug 2011 22:05 - 23 Aug 2011 23:16 #73723 by STUARTF
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Yip, that is the squirrel (when you find him whatever you do.... don't touch his nuts - where do you think he gets all the protein from to look like that)hahaha :P

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26 Dec 2011 10:47 #86274 by Quazzimodo
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Hey Stuart,

I tried to message you directly but I am still getting used to this site. I want to start my cycle in a week from now. The reason I havent started was because I wanted to train a bit more off gear to gain optimum resulst while on.

I have a few questions, if you dont mind giving me some advice.
You said you arent a nomad fan (why is that)? I can get some sustanon 250, so should i rather dump the nomatest.

Here is my cycle

Week 1-10 (1ml nomatest300 a week)
Week 5-10 (winstrol 2wice a week) I want to use only 10 ml of my 20 ml bottle and rather do a second cycle later next year.
Week 1-10 (HCG (pregnyl) twice a week 250IU)
Week 11-14 Nolva, aromasin, Vitamin E


If you advise me to stay clear I would replace the Nomatest with SUS250.

Please feel free to comment on the cycle.
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26 Dec 2011 12:14 #86276 by jakes
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Where to start? Okay 300mg test is seriously low... What are your goals going into this? Secondly the winnie you have is water based, you can't pin it only twice a week, you need to pin that shit ed... Under 50mg daily is a waste so you actually need another bottle haha. The hcg during cycle has no place in that cycle, use it in pct. You are starting your pct way too early. Start it 31days after your last test e shot... Use the aromasin for pct when you run a hectic cycle buy some clomid too then you can do a clomid, hcg and nolva pct :)

You need to start doing your research budi...

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26 Dec 2011 12:22 #86277 by Quazzimodo
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Hey Jakes,
Thanks for the advice, its not that I havent done my research. But I get so confused with all the forums out there. Every person has a different opinion and it makes it difficult for me to know what I am doing.

Can you just put me a clear cycle out, because the confusion is too much. I will be the first to say that I am a newbie, but credit to myself for doing the research and getting others opinions and not rushing into things.

This is what I have

Nomatest 300 10ml( I can drop this and rather go onto sustanon 250) I read some mixed opinions about nomatest 300.
Winstrol 20 ml

HCG, nolva and clomyd

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26 Dec 2011 12:24 #86278 by Quazzimodo
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Or like other members suggested in earlier posts. Do the nomatest with the sustanon.

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26 Dec 2011 13:23 #86279 by jakes
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Other forums are shit... Those uk guys have limited knowledge.

I can suggest another cycle but you'll need more test... And some clomid but at least the clomid is cheap.

Something like
1-12:600mg test e weekly (or 250mg sust and 300mg test e, same thing)
12-15:50mg winni ed
1-4:40mg dbol ed

Are you trying to bulk or to cut? If the goal is cutting get 20ml test prop and keep the test for the future and run something like
1-8:100mg test prop eod
5-8:50mg winni eod.

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26 Dec 2011 13:53 #86281 by Quazzimodo
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Ok, I will have to go sustanon 250 and the nomatest. I wont be able to get dianabols where I live. Its a bit difficult to get my hands on some gear, the sust250 i can buy over the counter.

Can i draw sust and nomatest in the same syringe? They are both oil so I guess I can. Could you please clarify.

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26 Dec 2011 14:03 #86283 by jakes
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Yes you can... Maybe extend the cycle with 2weeks if you can't get dbol

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21 Feb 2012 19:10 #93924 by Quazzimodo
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Hi Guys,

Well I started my cycle at 300mg, just wanted to see how i react. The first 4 weeks i did not see a lot of gains on 300mg. anyway i upped my dosage to 600mg (split 300/300) since last week. I managed to get another bottle of nomatest 300.

The question is, can i extend my cycle from 10 weeks to 12 weeks on the new dosage. I am currently on week 7 and have only upped my dosage since week 6.

Is there anything I should add to my PCT of nolva and clomyd.

I will post my results after the cycle. But things are looking good. I'm dropping body fat and gaining muscle. This stuff rocks and could definitely see myself doing another cycle at the end of the year.

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21 Feb 2012 19:16 #93926 by Juice
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Well from what I hear Nomad is seriously underdosed and bad quality so in reality your not getting that 600mg. Why not PGW?

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21 Feb 2012 19:21 #93927 by Quazzimodo
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well like i said in my previous posts. I dont live in SA but I am south African. Thats the reason I joined this group is to get advise from South Africans.
I have a limited range of gear I can choose. Im not to happy with the nomad but not that much i can do about it.

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21 Feb 2012 19:30 #93929 by Juice
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Well I would advice you extend your cycle to 12 weeks so your body can some what appreciate the test increase, perhaps add some hcg to your pct
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21 Feb 2012 20:34 #93952 by manery
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Juice wrote: Well I would advice you extend your cycle to 12 weeks so your body can some what appreciate the test increase, perhaps add some hcg to your pct


i second that!

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21 Feb 2012 21:01 #93970 by Thunderbeast
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Quazzimodo wrote: well like i said in my previous posts. I dont live in SA but I am south African. Thats the reason I joined this group is to get advise from South Africans.
I have a limited range of gear I can choose. Im not to happy with the nomad but not that much i can do about it.


This is not really a problem, just multiply the dose on the vial by a factor of 1.5-2 and then it becomes coparable with other better brands... hhahaha

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22 Feb 2012 14:44 #94114 by Inja
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Yes, add hCG to the PCT protocol.
Good luck.

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22 Feb 2012 14:59 - 22 Feb 2012 15:00 #94119 by gab
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what country are you living in now

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29 Feb 2012 09:14 #94994 by Quazzimodo
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This nomatest really sucks. I will never do nomad products again. Even upped dosage to 600mg but no major changes. Only strength.
I gained 3kilos. Im eating right, sleeping righ, training right etc.

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29 Feb 2012 09:54 #95012 by STUARTF
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Howzit bud, Yip thats the risk you take with Nomad. That stuff is so inconsistant and usually underdosed. I think next cycle you need to try import some quality gear or come over here for holiday and stock up on some vitamin S.

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29 Feb 2012 09:57 #95013 by Quazzimodo
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Hey Stuart nice hearing from you again.

If its not a hassle can i ask you to give me a suggestion for my next cycle and how long the cycle should be. Also, how long should I wait before my next cycle?

Thanks

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29 Feb 2012 10:00 #95014 by Juice
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Time on + PCT = Waiting time between cycles

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29 Feb 2012 10:09 #95016 by STUARTF
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Quazzimodo wrote: Hey Stuart nice hearing from you again.

If its not a hassle can i ask you to give me a suggestion for my next cycle and how long the cycle should be. Also, how long should I wait before my next cycle?

Thanks


What are your goals... i.e. do you want to add a lot of size (bulk) or are you more interested in cutting (ripped lean look)?

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29 Feb 2012 12:39 #95049 by Quazzimodo
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The ripped lean look.

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