Nomatest 300 and Winstrol cycle

Hi Guys,

I live in a country where gear isnt easy to come by so I have to use what I can get. I managed to get my hands on Nomatest 300 and Winstrol. I will be able to get some sustanon 250.

can anyone give me an indication of what to expect from nomatest 300 and is it a good product. I get mixed reviews on different sites.


Stats:

1.89 cm
95 Kg
15% BF
Training for 6 Years on/off. Mostly on. Been Training 6 months permanently and I am looking at starting my cycle after another 6 Months of training.
Im looking to bulk up and get lean.

Cycle:

Week: 1-10 Nomatest 300
Week: 4-10 Winstrol
(Should I add Sustanon to shis cycle?)
Nolvadex every other day
3 Weeks Clomyd two weeks after last pin

This is my second cycle and I do admitt that I am a newbie to Steroids/Cycles.

I look forward to seeing what your thoughts are on my cycle etc.
Thanks

Nomatest300 is blend of 7 testosterone esters, so no need to add sust250 to the mix (which is also a test blend). I am not a Nomad fan at all, and I always avoid it like the plague, but if it's all you can get then I suppose it will do.

What are your doses looking like?

1ml nomatest a week
2ml winstrol a week

Like I said I am a newbie so any advise will be appreciated.

Those dosages seem a bit low.

Your Nomatest300 is 300mg/ml so I would up it to at least 1.5ml (450mg)/wk. You're a big boy so don't be shy.
Your winstrol is extremely fast-acting so everyday shots are required. Standard bottle comes as 50mg/ml so you should look at doing 1ml/day (50mg/day). If budget is a problem then you could get away doing 0.5ml/day but no less.

How old are you by the way?

Also that PCT is way off. Look under the PCT section to get the right compounds/timing.

I am 26 years old.

the winstrol is iliumstanabolic www.steroidsplace.com/html/products_imag...strol_stanozolol.jpg

the winstrol says 20ml on the side.

You won't find a better make of Winstrol. Illium is 20ml 50mg/ml so 1ml/day would be ideal.

So 1 mil a day will last me 20 days correct?

Also, what do you think of the PCT?

Thanks for all the assistance.

That's correct.

A standard PCT would look something like this:

wk 1 - 100mg/day clomid
wk 2 to 4 - 20mg/day nolvadex

Your test dosage is relatively low so no need for HCG.

Remember that you should only start your PCT once all your test esters have cleared. The longest ester in Nomatest is testosterone decanoate which has a half-life of 15days (so PCT should start 2 weeks after your last Nomatest300 shot).

50mg (1ml) winstrol eod is fine mate.

Also get the sust. Yes both are blends but one 10ml vial won't last u long enough. I'd suggest 600mg nomatest week 1-5 and 500mg sust week 6-10.
Hit the winny @ 50mg eod week 7-11.

Mcj optimal results are 50mg Ed for water based winstrol I am on ilium now, damn painful but hard like a rock, closer to show I drop it for lp oral winstrol

Koe007 wrote: Mcj optimal results are 50mg Ed for water based winstrol I am on ilium now, damn painful but hard like a rock, closer to show I drop it for lp oral winstrol

Yeah I know that mate. Just mentioned that as it could be used that way and to prolong the usage of the winny. Seeing as he struggles to get hold gear.

My bad obviously not focussing tonight

Why complicate thigs MCJ? The nomatest has some long esters that are not present in the sust. The nomatest needs to be run as long as possible to get the full benefit of the long esters. If anything he can run nomatest and sust together for the full cycle length or run sust only. I understand that if he only has one bottle of each then its a different story but I'm under the impression that quantity of the substances he mentioned is not the problem, its variety that he's needs.

Is this correct Quazi? Also what brand of Sust is it?

This is the Sustanon I can get, I can get alot of the sustanon but not nomatest and winstrol.

www.google.com.qa/imgres?q=sustanon&um=1...,r:3,s:0&tx=76&ty=71

But nomatest and winstrol I can only have one bottle of. I cant get more of the nomatest and winny, I only have 1 bottle each.

Also,can I use Pregnyl for HCG?

STUARTF wrote: Why complicate thigs MCJ? The nomatest has some long esters that are not present in the sust. The nomatest needs to be run as long as possible to get the full benefit of the long esters. If anything he can run nomatest and sust together for the full cycle length or run sust only. I understand that if he only has one bottle of each then its a different story but I'm under the impression that quantity of the substances he mentioned is not the problem, its variety that he's needs.

Is this correct Quazi? Also what brand of Sust is it?

Its not complicated at all. Quite simple actually. Use the nomatest and then the sust (both have short and long esters, the nomatest is just a wider blend range).
Or
Use it as stuart suggested with 1 ml of each per week split. Only real difference will be more stable blood levels but not major.

Still say take the winny eod. its not optimal as koe stated but wil last long enuf to still help u after uve stopped the test and waiting for the long esters to dissipate before ur pct

MCJ wrote:

STUARTF wrote: Why complicate thigs MCJ? The nomatest has some long esters that are not present in the sust. The nomatest needs to be run as long as possible to get the full benefit of the long esters. If anything he can run nomatest and sust together for the full cycle length or run sust only. I understand that if he only has one bottle of each then its a different story but I'm under the impression that quantity of the substances he mentioned is not the problem, its variety that he's needs.

Is this correct Quazi? Also what brand of Sust is it?

Its not complicated at all. Quite simple actually. Use the nomatest and then the sust (both have short and long esters, the nomatest is just a wider blend range).
Or
Use it as stuart suggested with 1 ml of each per week split. Only real difference will be more stable blood levels but not major.

Still say take the winny eod. its not optimal as koe stated but wil last long enuf to still help u after uve stopped the test and waiting for the long esters to dissipate before ur pct

Ideally it would be best to run the Nomatest throughout the whole cycle to get the full benefit of all 7 of the test esters. Since you only have one bottle, MCJ is right - run nomatest then the sust. I used the Organon Paki Sust a few years ago and had good results but I believe the Paki Sust is faked quite a lot these days. Make sure your supplier is solid.

It is not essential to run HCG but if you want to pregnyl is perfect. Run 500iu for the first 3 weeks of PCT. If you want to keep your balls during cycle you can even run 250iu/wk on-cycle but this is unnecessary for a cycle like this.

Ok Great I saw the PCT under the main topics. I will just follow that then.

I think I will use the Nomatest and Winstrol EOD. After 4 weeks I will look at my gains and then jump on the sustanon.

Funny enough, the source for the sustanon is the pharmacy, i can just buy it over the counter. They only have Decca (the decca is very weak strength) and Sustanon. So I can buy Sustanon till the end of time.

I might to the pregnyl each week while on the cycle like you indicated.

What a pleasure getting it over the counter. No need to worry about fakes.

Also, would you rate this as a beginner cycle? What type of gains am I looking at, I know it depends on alot of things. Will it be a hard muscle look?

Its funny that the other type of gear is difficult to get but decca and sus you can buy buckets of.

Think the deca u are referring to comes in 25mg amps? I could be mistaken.

What country do u live in? Damn guy

I suppose Deca & Sust is probably the most popular beginner's cycle around the world. It was my first cycle that I did almost 10 years ago.

Im a Saffa Living in Qatar. Your right that deca comes in light dosage. So you basicaly have shoot like 3liters to get the right dosage...haha

Can you give me a ball park figure on what the gains would be and what type of gains....I know it depends on alot of variables.