Lean mass cycle - Any comments?

Good day nice people,
Attached find my 4th cycle that is aimed at gaining as much lean mass as possible. It is a 15 week cycle and will be my 4th cycle in 4 years. After a few comments I will reveal the name of a very well known person that assisted me in compiling the cycle.


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possible with the right diet,to many carbs and u will bloat and put on fat,keeping carbs moderate and timed right and fats moderate with high protein u are good to go for a good lean mass stack...there will be a lot of water to begin with the dbol and cyp,but if thats the case and u want to drop the water letro or a-dex eod will be sufficent to kill that,but the last 4 weeks is where u will drop water as u have added in winstrol,proviron and heat which will help with dropping some of the bloat...

DJ, I do have Letro at home but I am sceptical using it because it put the soldier in bed for a very long time last year June.

but that was used during your pct if i remember correctly,but whilst on test u will have to just judge as it going 0.25-0.5mg eod is enough to kill bloat and not affect the soldier..

djeasye wrote:

but that was used during your pct if i remember correctly,but whilst on test u will have to just judge as it going 0.25-0.5mg eod is enough to kill bloat and not affect the soldier..

You have a good memory, it was in my PCT. When do you suggest that I start with the Letro at 0,25mg?

when u start to notice that u are retaining a bit to much water,then it always good to have on hand to kill that bloat

djeasye wrote:

when u start to notice that u are retaining a bit to much water,then it always good to have on hand to kill that bloat

Perfect, thanks I will monitor the situation from 14 February when I start the cycle.

Why do you start the EQ at 175?

its a 15 week cycle dude so running it looks like he is running 1ml a week (split dose) for 10 week and then upping it to 2mls a week for 5 weeks after the 8 week kick in time for the equi

Looks good.
I would only change your first 2 shots of Equi. Run 350 on those and then back to the 175.

I also do not get the injection protocol.
Why the every 3rd day then every 4th day?

These esters are long acting, so a constant administration is a way better methodology to use or your levels will constantly spike and cause issues. You looking for consistency, not to many peaks and troughs.

A nice addition would be Masteron in the last 4 - 5 weeks.
That would harden you nicely.

If you go masteron then leave the oral winny.

Why no HCG during cycle? 12 weeks plus cycles are always good to look at HCG during.

You are taking Equi for a long time so familiarize yourself with the sides as you will get them. Make sure you have loads of food as your will eat like an animal due to the equi.

Arimidex on hand as your anti-e.

Hope this helps

monday and thursday injections Netro...

djeasye wrote:

monday and thursday injections Netro...

Mon + Thur and Sun + Wed = No difference

DJ, did you receive my mails yesterday afternoon and this morning?

will reply now dude

Ah, sweet then.
Spread sheet is a little deceiving.

Good luck then and do some before and after stats for us pls.

Netro wrote:

Ah, sweet then.
Spread sheet is a little deceiving.

Good luck then and do some before and after stats for us pls.

Thanks Netro, Will definitely supply before and after stats.

P.S. DJ did the cycle for me and at this moment he is also fine tuning my diet.

Then the rest is up to you.

djeasye wrote:

its a 15 week cycle dude so running it looks like he is running 1ml a week (split dose) for 10 week and then upping it to 2mls a week for 5 weeks after the 8 week kick in time for the equi

The so called long kick in time is the time it takes for the compound to reach stable levels that thus produce stable results. What your suggesting is wait till the compound reaches stable peaks and troughs for 350mg a week, then bump is up to 700mg a week so that the peaks and troughs go up again, preventing a setpoint.
I'm not saying it wont be effective. Just to me I don't see the point.

Wont using test prop every other day for the first month be a better choice instead of the dbol since the cyp and dbol could make u gain a bit of water where as the test prop wont be as bad? Instead of using letro to combat water why not use something is gonna aid u in growth such as prop and run adex eod to play it safe.

Just my 2c and a question coz that course looks lakka.

i have always done equi at 350mg and then after a while bumped it up to the higher dosage when its reached decent concentration... i dont see why it would be a problem though...

djeasye wrote:

i have always done equi at 350mg and then after a while bumped it up to the higher dosage when its reached decent concentration... i dont see why it would be a problem though...

I think Inja is heading towards the stability and consistency point. As soon as you reach consistency in levels you throw another higher dose in the equation and develop the up and down levels (peaks and troughs) that made gains low in the first part of the cycle.

What you need to aim for is consistent levels to gain consistently.

If your protocol works for you then great and use it by all means. We will never discover new ways of doing things without experimenting or finding willing guinea pigs

Well its just like anything we front load drugs and throw our balance out then lower it... I normally start 2 weeks of a cycle with 1.5grams of test then drop down to 900 then to 600mg and stay there for 14 or so weeks...

I still don't understand how people speculate how EQ works... For me i'm hungry from a few days into it, so how is it not working? I don't see how the drug only works weeks into the cycle. I'm also stronger just a week into the cycle, I have done quite a few EQ only cycles with great success after a week 2 weeks max.

Just my 2 cents..

PS i'm talking about results not what science shows.. science shows masteron to be a very low anabolic agent yet everyone states that what it shows on paper is very different to how it works in the real world.

Netro wrote:

djeasye wrote:

i have always done equi at 350mg and then after a while bumped it up to the higher dosage when its reached decent concentration... i dont see why it would be a problem though...

I think Inja is heading towards the stability and consistency point.

Yep. Look the EQ is still gonna work over 350mg, because by adding more your troughs in drug levels wont go below the stable point you already reached. But like Netro explained you blood levels will again start doing those crazy ups and downs typical of starting a cycle as the Eq now needs to reach a new "stable" drug concentration.

Here NB1... Im prob gonna do the exact course as you but leave out the heat and swop the equi for trianabol...do a bulking course...

Didnt you say you wanted to hit some GH as well..or did that work to expensive?

SNOK1986 wrote:

Here NB1... Im prob gonna do the exact course as you but leave out the heat and swop the equi for trianabol...do a bulking course...

Didnt you say you wanted to hit some GH as well..or did that work to expensive?

I decided to rather do the GH beginning next year because the cycle would have overlappped with a planned vacation to Mozambique in the June school holidays.