Tramacet Turinabol and HCG cycle log

Creating a new thread to officially start my cycle log. I am still a little bit sick so I am just waiting for it to pass before I start. If all goes well it should be somewhere early next week. I still need to take photos before I start.

I will track my daily calories on myfatsecret.

Cycle will consist of:
• Week before cycle: Start with liver protection
• Week 1-6: Tbol @ 60mg ed (Split 20mg morning, 40 mg afternoon)
• Will continue with week 7 and 8 if liver holds up.
• 250ui HCG per week (As recommended by Oupa)
• PCT: Clomid and Nolva

Current Stats:
• Weight 82kg
• Bodyfat 14.2%
• Height 176cm

PDF file with my full stats incl centimeters, Lean body mass etc: Click Here


Supplements:
• Multivitamin, Calmag and liver protection every day
• Nutritech whey after gym with 80g rice krispies
• Nutritech Casein before sleep
• BCAAs before gym
• Preworkout I will probably stick with beserker.
• A lot of water every day

Training program:
Will be following a hypertrophy gym program designed for back line rugby players to put on mass. Starting with high reps and taking them down every second week.


I will try to update the thread as regularly as possible. I believe I should be able to pick up between 3 and 4 kilograms. Wish me luck

3 to 4kg on tbol only?

Better idea, 500mg test only and don't waste your money on all those supplements and you will still get better results..

My previous thread explained why I do not want to inject (In short, I get severe back acne) My body responds really well with tbol. I am pretty sure I can pick up 3kg.

If you get serve acne with injectables run an AI. Increased estrogen is one of the main causes for acne. Also the quality of gear you use

Lex wrote: If you get serve acne with injectables run an AI. Increased estrogen is one of the main causes for acne. Also the quality of gear you use

I have tried everything. I had huge problems with acne in school and still get some shit on my back even when not running anything.

I use proper gear as well. I honestly do not feel like dealing with the acne at the moment, so I will be doing this cycle.

This plan is also not to gain a huge amount of mass. I want to get in good shape for ice hockey in terms of core and strength. I believe I will pick up at least 2kg, 4kg max.

Let's see how it goes. There has never been a cycle log for this, so lets see how it goes.

I personally love turinabol,sides are minimal and strength and muscle retention after cycle is great. Some of the first stuff I started cycling with.i never kept a log on my progress while on tbol but could definitely see and feel it. Will be interesting to see what happens in your cycle,keep us posted!!

Jono77 wrote: I personally love turinabol,sides are minimal and strength and muscle retention after cycle is great. Some of the first stuff I started cycling with.i never kept a log on my progress while on tbol but could definitely see and feel it. Will be interesting to see what happens in your cycle,keep us posted!!

Will do. Just waiting for this stupid flu to pass.

Finished antibiotics yesterday. Think I will start next week. Just want to get back into the rhythm of things after being away from gym for +- 10 days

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Good to hear from you bud.
Good Idea to give it 7days take yoghurt an probiotics to boost immune system. Make sure you are 100% before you start. I you feel crap before you are shut down you will only feel worse once you are on the gear

tramacet wrote:

Lex wrote: If you get serve acne with injectables run an AI. Increased estrogen is one of the main causes for acne. Also the quality of gear you use

I have tried everything. I had huge problems with acne in school and still get some shit on my back even when not running anything.

I use proper gear as well. I honestly do not feel like dealing with the acne at the moment, so I will be doing this cycle.

This plan is also not to gain a huge amount of mass. I want to get in good shape for ice hockey in terms of core and strength. I believe I will pick up at least 2kg, 4kg max.

Let's see how it goes. There has never been a cycle log for this, so lets see how it goes.

Have you tried EOD injections of Test-En?

Pyroclasm wrote: Have you tried EOD injections of Test-En?

No. I usually did injections twice a week.

I assume EOD would keep your test levels much more stable thus decreasing the risk/chance for acne?

How much more expensive would it be to run EOD injections? Would be test prop be the best?

I started with the tbol today

Good luck buddy.
Keep us updated.
Keep yourself in a calorie surplus. Keep it clean and lean 2g Protein per kg body mass. Remember to take essential extreme through cycle and PCT extended 2 weeks after PCT. 2 capsules after breakfast and 2 after dinner should do you.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Good luck buddy.
Keep us updated.
Keep yourself in a calorie surplus. Keep it clean and lean 2g Protein per kg body mass. Remember to take essential extreme through cycle and PCT extended 2 weeks after PCT. 2 capsules after breakfast and 2 after dinner should do you.

Thanks. I am taking an equivalent but will def take care of my liver (Nativa liver complex).

I will be on a strict diet from Monday. Was in Cape Town over the weekend so couldn't prepare food over the weekend. Actually very excited about this.

Keep a good detailed log if you can. It will add knowledge and experience. I do not believe it has been done on our forum. I would add at least 40mg Proviron a day though just to ad some androgen incaise libido issues surface.

How many calories and what macros are you going to shoot for?

Native is good I have used it before also while on 3 orals at the same time. Would not advise it though...

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: How many calories and what macros are you going to shoot for?

Starting Monday, 3000 calories minimum while aiming for 3300. I will figure out the split over the weekend.

I have a question regarding mixing my HCG. My HCG came like this:



This means I can't mix it and pull 250ui every time.

I got a good idea from a friend to pre-fill the syringes so I read up about it. Apparently it is possible to pre fill them and freeze them. TRUE Link to Article

Oupa/Pyro/Rooibul - Is this good practice as the article states? And is there anything else you would like to add to this?

I plan to buy syringes and pre fill each with 250ui, freeze them and move 2 to the freezer every week.

And just to make 100% sure - With HCG you use insulin needles and inject into stomach fat? CORRECT

I used the same. Do you have a sterile vial or a HGH vial perhaps? I used to mix and inject it into the sterile vial and used as needed.

Oupa wrote: I used the same. Do you have a sterile vial or a HGH vial perhaps?

No. Nothing of the sort. Are there places that sell them?

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The syringe pre load works well bud, you can do it like that.

Oupa wrote: The syringe pre load works well bud, you can do it like that.

Will do that then. Would it be a good idea to add some air before freezing them?

Would it be better to do 250ui per week first and up it to 500 if needed? Or can I just start with 500ui twice per week, since I bought it already.

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You can add a little air to it if you want because the air will be from a sterile vial. I didn't and pre loaded the exact amount. Load 250iu per unit and start off with 500iu per week, not 500iu twice a week.

Oupa wrote: You can add a little air to it if you want because the air will be from a sterile vial. I didn't and pre loaded the exact amount. Load 250iu per unit and start off with 500iu per week, not 500iu twice a week.

Yea I typed like an idiot. I mean 500ui split in 2 injections per week.

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Ok here is a rundown of the exercise program I will be following on cycle. 3 day Hypertrophy program (Designed for back line rugby players). My goal is to gain strength, core strength, put on 2/3kg and hopefully drop some body fat by eating clean (BF can be dropped later as well)

Day 1: Legs, Calves, Abs, Core
Day 2: Back and Chest
Day 3: Shoulders, Arms, Abs, Core

Core exercises reps go down every 2 weeks, sets stays the same (Usually 4, 5 With legs). The program requires that you MUST complete your reps.

• Week 1/2: 12 reps every set
• Week 3/4: 12,10,10,8,8 reps per set
• Week 5/6 12,8,6,6,6 reps per set.

Other exercises mostly 10-12 reps, 3/4 sets.

The program has every basic important exercise like squat, bench, rows, leg press etc. The only 2 things I feel are missing is pull ups and dead lifts so I will try to add it in somewhere.

I will be training 4/5 days per week and attend ice hockey practice once per week. I want to train as hard as possible but I obviously need to rest as well, so I will need to find a good balance.

I will also be doing extra upper chest exercises as it needs attention.

tramacet wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: Have you tried EOD injections of Test-En?

No. I usually did injections twice a week.

I assume EOD would keep your test levels much more stable thus decreasing the risk/chance for acne?

How much more expensive would it be to run EOD injections? Would be test prop be the best?

I started with the tbol today

Yes