Tramacet Turinabol and HCG cycle log

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30 Mar 2016 13:15 #197625 by tramacet
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Creating a new thread to officially start my cycle log. I am still a little bit sick so I am just waiting for it to pass before I start. If all goes well it should be somewhere early next week. I still need to take photos before I start.

I will track my daily calories on myfatsecret.

Cycle will consist of:
• Week before cycle: Start with liver protection
• Week 1-6: Tbol @ 60mg ed (Split 20mg morning, 40 mg afternoon)
• Will continue with week 7 and 8 if liver holds up.
• 250ui HCG per week (As recommended by Oupa)
• PCT: Clomid and Nolva

Current Stats:
• Weight 82kg
• Bodyfat 14.2%
• Height 176cm

PDF file with my full stats incl centimeters, Lean body mass etc: Click Here


Supplements:
• Multivitamin, Calmag and liver protection every day
• Nutritech whey after gym with 80g rice krispies
• Nutritech Casein before sleep
• BCAAs before gym
• Preworkout I will probably stick with beserker.
• A lot of water every day

Training program:
Will be following a hypertrophy gym program designed for back line rugby players to put on mass. Starting with high reps and taking them down every second week.


I will try to update the thread as regularly as possible. I believe I should be able to pick up between 3 and 4 kilograms. Wish me luck B)

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30 Mar 2016 14:49 #197627 by p1et
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3 to 4kg on tbol only?
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30 Mar 2016 15:46 #197629 by 00pump
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Better idea, 500mg test only and don't waste your money on all those supplements and you will still get better results..

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01 Apr 2016 23:28 #197680 by tramacet
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My previous thread explained why I do not want to inject (In short, I get severe back acne) My body responds really well with tbol. I am pretty sure I can pick up 3kg.

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02 Apr 2016 09:52 #197682 by Lex
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If you get serve acne with injectables run an AI. Increased estrogen is one of the main causes for acne. Also the quality of gear you use

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02 Apr 2016 16:07 #197684 by tramacet
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Lex wrote: If you get serve acne with injectables run an AI. Increased estrogen is one of the main causes for acne. Also the quality of gear you use

I have tried everything. I had huge problems with acne in school and still get some shit on my back even when not running anything.

I use proper gear as well. I honestly do not feel like dealing with the acne at the moment, so I will be doing this cycle.

This plan is also not to gain a huge amount of mass. I want to get in good shape for ice hockey in terms of core and strength. I believe I will pick up at least 2kg, 4kg max.

Let's see how it goes. There has never been a cycle log for this, so lets see how it goes. :)
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03 Apr 2016 09:27 #197686 by Jono77
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I personally love turinabol,sides are minimal and strength and muscle retention after cycle is great. Some of the first stuff I started cycling with.i never kept a log on my progress while on tbol but could definitely see and feel it. Will be interesting to see what happens in your cycle,keep us posted!! :D

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04 Apr 2016 13:58 #197698 by tramacet
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Jono77 wrote: I personally love turinabol,sides are minimal and strength and muscle retention after cycle is great. Some of the first stuff I started cycling with.i never kept a log on my progress while on tbol but could definitely see and feel it. Will be interesting to see what happens in your cycle,keep us posted!! :D


Will do. Just waiting for this stupid flu to pass.

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12 Apr 2016 07:56 #197918 by tramacet
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Finished antibiotics yesterday. Think I will start next week. Just want to get back into the rhythm of things after being away from gym for +- 10 days

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12 Apr 2016 08:16 #197919 by Rooi Bul 86
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Good to hear from you bud.
Good Idea to give it 7days take yoghurt an probiotics to boost immune system. Make sure you are 100% before you start. I you feel crap before you are shut down you will only feel worse once you are on the gear

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12 Apr 2016 22:09 #197948 by Pyroclasm
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tramacet wrote:

Lex wrote: If you get serve acne with injectables run an AI. Increased estrogen is one of the main causes for acne. Also the quality of gear you use

I have tried everything. I had huge problems with acne in school and still get some shit on my back even when not running anything.

I use proper gear as well. I honestly do not feel like dealing with the acne at the moment, so I will be doing this cycle.

This plan is also not to gain a huge amount of mass. I want to get in good shape for ice hockey in terms of core and strength. I believe I will pick up at least 2kg, 4kg max.

Let's see how it goes. There has never been a cycle log for this, so lets see how it goes. :)


Have you tried EOD injections of Test-En?

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20 Apr 2016 10:27 - 20 Apr 2016 10:28 #198282 by tramacet
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Pyroclasm wrote: Have you tried EOD injections of Test-En?


No. I usually did injections twice a week.

I assume EOD would keep your test levels much more stable thus decreasing the risk/chance for acne?

How much more expensive would it be to run EOD injections? Would be test prop be the best?

I started with the tbol today :cheer: :cheer:
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20 Apr 2016 12:23 #198288 by Rooi Bul 86
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Good luck buddy.
Keep us updated.
Keep yourself in a calorie surplus. Keep it clean and lean 2g Protein per kg body mass. Remember to take essential extreme through cycle and PCT extended 2 weeks after PCT. 2 capsules after breakfast and 2 after dinner should do you.

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20 Apr 2016 13:50 #198293 by tramacet
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Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Good luck buddy.
Keep us updated.
Keep yourself in a calorie surplus. Keep it clean and lean 2g Protein per kg body mass. Remember to take essential extreme through cycle and PCT extended 2 weeks after PCT. 2 capsules after breakfast and 2 after dinner should do you.


Thanks. I am taking an equivalent but will def take care of my liver (Nativa liver complex).

I will be on a strict diet from Monday. Was in Cape Town over the weekend so couldn't prepare food over the weekend. Actually very excited about this. :cheer: :cheer:

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20 Apr 2016 13:59 - 20 Apr 2016 14:00 #198295 by Rooi Bul 86
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Keep a good detailed log if you can. It will add knowledge and experience. I do not believe it has been done on our forum. I would add at least 40mg Proviron a day though just to ad some androgen incaise libido issues surface.

How many calories and what macros are you going to shoot for?

Native is good I have used it before also while on 3 orals at the same time. Would not advise it though...

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21 Apr 2016 17:01 #198333 by tramacet
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Rooi Bul 86 wrote: How many calories and what macros are you going to shoot for?


Starting Monday, 3000 calories minimum while aiming for 3300. I will figure out the split over the weekend.

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21 Apr 2016 17:03 - 21 Apr 2016 19:51 #198334 by tramacet
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I have a question regarding mixing my HCG. My HCG came like this:



This means I can't mix it and pull 250ui every time.

I got a good idea from a friend to pre-fill the syringes so I read up about it. Apparently it is possible to pre fill them and freeze them. TRUE Link to Article

Oupa/Pyro/Rooibul - Is this good practice as the article states? And is there anything else you would like to add to this?

I plan to buy syringes and pre fill each with 250ui, freeze them and move 2 to the freezer every week.

And just to make 100% sure - With HCG you use insulin needles and inject into stomach fat? CORRECT
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21 Apr 2016 19:50 - 21 Apr 2016 19:52 #198344 by Oupa
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I used the same. Do you have a sterile vial or a HGH vial perhaps? I used to mix and inject it into the sterile vial and used as needed.
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21 Apr 2016 19:52 #198345 by tramacet
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Oupa wrote: I used the same. Do you have a sterile vial or a HGH vial perhaps?

No. Nothing of the sort. Are there places that sell them?

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21 Apr 2016 19:52 #198346 by Oupa
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The syringe pre load works well bud, you can do it like that.

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21 Apr 2016 20:56 #198359 by tramacet
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Oupa wrote: The syringe pre load works well bud, you can do it like that.

Will do that then. Would it be a good idea to add some air before freezing them?

Would it be better to do 250ui per week first and up it to 500 if needed? Or can I just start with 500ui twice per week, since I bought it already.

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21 Apr 2016 21:12 #198360 by Oupa
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You can add a little air to it if you want because the air will be from a sterile vial. I didn't and pre loaded the exact amount. Load 250iu per unit and start off with 500iu per week, not 500iu twice a week.

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21 Apr 2016 21:31 #198363 by tramacet
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Oupa wrote: You can add a little air to it if you want because the air will be from a sterile vial. I didn't and pre loaded the exact amount. Load 250iu per unit and start off with 500iu per week, not 500iu twice a week.

Yea I typed like an idiot. I mean 500ui split in 2 injections per week.

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22 Apr 2016 12:57 - 22 Apr 2016 13:12 #198379 by tramacet
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Ok here is a rundown of the exercise program I will be following on cycle. 3 day Hypertrophy program (Designed for back line rugby players). My goal is to gain strength, core strength, put on 2/3kg and hopefully drop some body fat by eating clean (BF can be dropped later as well)

Day 1: Legs, Calves, Abs, Core
Day 2: Back and Chest
Day 3: Shoulders, Arms, Abs, Core

Core exercises reps go down every 2 weeks, sets stays the same (Usually 4, 5 With legs). The program requires that you MUST complete your reps.
  • Week 1/2: 12 reps every set
  • Week 3/4: 12,10,10,8,8 reps per set
  • Week 5/6 12,8,6,6,6 reps per set.

Other exercises mostly 10-12 reps, 3/4 sets.

The program has every basic important exercise like squat, bench, rows, leg press etc. The only 2 things I feel are missing is pull ups and dead lifts so I will try to add it in somewhere.

I will be training 4/5 days per week and attend ice hockey practice once per week. I want to train as hard as possible but I obviously need to rest as well, so I will need to find a good balance.

I will also be doing extra upper chest exercises as it needs attention.
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22 Apr 2016 16:34 #198387 by Pyroclasm
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tramacet wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: Have you tried EOD injections of Test-En?


No. I usually did injections twice a week.

I assume EOD would keep your test levels much more stable thus decreasing the risk/chance for acne?

How much more expensive would it be to run EOD injections? Would be test prop be the best?

I started with the tbol today :cheer: :cheer:


Yes

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