Schmidt's Summer Cut Cycle - Test P,Winny,Proviron

Def going to give this a try! My left delt has always given me hassles, the delt muscle itself always goes beserk with twitching as I press the pin trough it, and even though I aspirate and am always good to go once the pin is in, removing the needle almost always results in blood.

2 cycles back I aspirated, had zero blood, injected and when I withdrew I covered my wall in blood! It came out like Old Faithful. I'm obviously going through blood vessels on the way in and going right through them

Like clockwork I'm sick

Every cycle, 2 days after the initial pin and my nose is streaming, I'm hot, sweaty, then cool, stuffy head etc. Guess my body just says "woah WTF is this, immune system attack!". Dosing up on Med Lemon, vit C, and I've upped calories to help my body get back to normal.

2nd pin tonight and will see how I feel tomorrow after resting tonight. So far it's staying above my chest so hopefully I'll just have the sniffles and a bit of a fever for a day or 2 and can get back to training soon!

It happens very often with people using Test Prop.

Happens when I've used test E as well, really annoying!

I guess it's safe to say the Ciccone prop is legit then?

Its definitely not sinucons

Take some desloratidine and e'voila you're cured!

Pyroclasm wrote: Take some desloratidine and e'voila you're cured!

For real? I thought the name rang a bell, just checked and I have some Dazit tabs (Desloratadine 5mg) in the medicine cupboard.

I'll pop one before bed and report back in the AM

Did my third shot earlier. Mixed it with 1ml of Vit B12, thought it might be worthwhile seeing that I'm sick. Can't wait to get back into the gym, this waiting is killing me!

That prop and B12 combo sure has done a good job in my quads! Nice big bruise on the left side and walking is a mission. The stairs in my office are proving to be a challenge today.

Feeling much better, got lots of green stuff coming out of my nose so I think the worst is over and my body is ridding itself of all the kak. Will start cardio again tomorrow morning and lift in the afternoon.

If you have green stuff leaving your body then you are likely sick and not experiencing 'test flu' so be careful.

Pyroclasm wrote: If you have green stuff leaving your body then you are likely sick and not experiencing 'test flu' so be careful.

And if it's glowing... run

Seriously though. The colour of phlegm used to be an indicator of whether you have an infection or not. Yellow - good, Green/brown - bad.

Important to note that the colour could also be related to whether you're adequately hydrated or not. But generally guys on gear are "fit" and should be well hydrated. Fever is the real indicator. Even a slight fever.

Don't rush to break a fever either. This is the body kick starting the immune response and the increased temp is to increase metabolism etc. Only when a fever starts approaching and exceeding 39C should you take panado/ponstan etc. to "break" it.

Most importantly though, if you are sick - REST. A very common complication is post viral myocarditis. It can range from pretty innocuous to fatal. I've seen a young guy drop stone dead on a rugby field of a massive heart attack attributed to post viral myocarditis as he had recently had flu and wasn't 100%. Several others have permanent heart damage leading to congestive cardiac failure.

So don't be a hero. Rather err on the side of caution and get treated appropriately.

I've been really slack with my log, so here's a little update.

After the first week where I got sick I've battled somewhat to get back into the groove of my diet and fell off the wagon a bit. I had a few days of disgusting binge eating where I would shove whatever I could find into my mouth. My physique has paid the price, and although I'm looking really full and my delts are rounder than ever, I've lost my abs and the striations I had on various parts of my body.

I'm now back on track with my diet and am doing cardio 6 mornings a week so I should be back to where I was in a week or 2. Adjusted diet to having almost zero carbs during the day, with carbs (oats) only pre-workout. This worked for me in the past so if it ain't broke...

The swelling and terrible PIP I had in my quads (I started a separate thread regarding this) eventually subsided after a day or two. I think this was caused by doing deadlifts the night after the quad pins and the bar/my hands rubbing and scraping up my quads in the exact spots where I had injected.

Strength gains are fantastic and I have put on just under 3kg in 3 weeks. I realise a lot of this is fat though from the binge eating, whoops.

I upped the Tbol to 60mg/day last week and will be finishing the Tbol this Saturday. Started HCG at 250iu twice a week last week.

Only sides I'm experience are both to do with digestion. Since starting the cycle I'm really battling to pass my food through my system and am having to supplement quite a bit with pysillium husk. I've never had a problem with being regular but I've noticed a huge change since starting 3 weeks ago. Anyone else every experience this?

Also have a little acid reflux and indigestion which I've experienced before when on Tbol.

Something interesting to note regarding the orals and digestion is during my very first cycle in 2010 (Sust, Dbol, Proviron) I had a huge issue with Proviron and oats. Like clockwork if I had oats in the morning by 4pm I'd be running to the bathroom. On the days when I didn't have oats, or when I was trying to find the cause of the issue and didn't have the Proviron I'd be 100% fine. Now on this cycle it's the complete opposite. Interesting.

I've also noticed a big difference in my temper and my fuse is really short at the moment. I've never really experienced this on the longer ester Tests, so I'm putting it down to how quickly the Prop builds up?

Hey bud, what test prop manufacturer are you using?

Fakey_AK wrote: Hey bud, what test prop manufacturer are you using?

I'm using Ciccone Test Rapid 100. Also hard about 3ml of PGW prop left over that a mate gave me that I finished off between the Ciccone pins.

Get more PGW

Eidolon wrote: Get more PGW

I know PGW is favorited but have you had any unfavorable results from Ciccone? Not starting an argument, really just trying to get some more info. I did start a thread in the manufacturers section discussin Ciccone in general, maybe add your thoughts for future reference

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/6-stero...he-general-consensus

Schmidt wrote:

Eidolon wrote: Get more PGW

I know PGW is favorited but have you had any unfavorable results from Ciccone? Not starting an argument, really just trying to get some more info. I did start a thread in the manufacturers section discussin Ciccone in general, maybe add your thoughts for future reference

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/6-stero...he-general-consensus

I'm out of the country currently, since 93

My experience was that PGW has consistently been accurately dosed, sterile and reliable to the point of being comparable to pharma.

New UGLs and products come around all the time, and they are frequently optimistically dosed to capture a share of a relatively small market. Reinventing test prop isn't rocket science though, which is why I'd rather stick (myself) with what I know than go for what's probably a rebrand

Schmidt wrote:

Fakey_AK wrote: Hey bud, what test prop manufacturer are you using?

I'm using Ciccone Test Rapid 100. Also hard about 3ml of PGW prop left over that a mate gave me that I finished off between the Ciccone pins.

In no way am I bashing Ciccone but seeing as it is related to nomad (don't know the whole story) I'm not surprised with the PIP. I once and only once injected 1ml nomad prop in my quad and got an infection so bad I had to get antibiotics and since then I never even looked nomads way again. But with that said, there are guys in my gym using there test blend and getting results so I guess the brand does work.

Ciccone hgh is apparently top shelf 99% pure.

2 top Gauteng heavy weights are currently using Ciccone's 450 test blend in their off season and are raving about it. I'll stick it out and keep updating my log as I go

Yeah the people envolved in that setup have been in the business for a long time cant see them putting out shit.