Mince Intermediate Cycle log

Hi Guys

So i started yesterday with my first pin i changed out my dbol for anapolin sure the gains will be insane.
Was a bit scared yesterday cause its also the first time that im using deca and i read on the internet that your test and deca could be a bit sore I had no pain at all.

Also got a trainer to do measurements, eating plan and program.
Food instake looks alot less than im used to but he says his doing it for a reason and food intake will increase as we go along.

I would like to know if i have any funny reaction to the deca or anapolin when will that start?

Will get stats up soon and some before pictures.

Anadrol is a strong steroid, if you looking for strength, it won't let you down, then again neither would dianabol.

Injecting deca and test should not have much pain, unless it's test prop or a test blend that is over 300mg per ml.

I have no idea what your diet is, nor your stats and why the trainer has cut the calories.. or has he actually cut the calories or has he introduced more fats which would have a higher calorie count, compared to carbs and protein

00pump wrote: Anadrol is a strong steroid, if you looking for strength, it won't let you down, then again neither would dianabol.

Injecting deca and test should not have much pain, unless it's test prop or a test blend that is over 300mg per ml.

I have no idea what your diet is, nor your stats and why the trainer has cut the calories.. or has he actually cut the calories or has he introduced more fats which would have a higher calorie count, compared to carbs and protein

Thats the thing pump i always ate 200g of mince/steak/chicken his cut that down to 150g most of the fats i had peanut butter at night his cut out but he added casein.

Post that plan bud... Sounds suspect. :huh:, cutting calories on cycle?

iv dropped from 200g to 150g portions of protein as well, nothing wrong with it and im still growing and hitting macros and on cycle.

what is your goal? what is your bf? these are all factors that could of influenced his decisions.

Stats
im not sure what the sc, lh and q is and I dont have a full bodyfat%
Goal i wanna get bigger was thinking 100kg and then cut down to 94kg but i know thats gonna be 2 cycles still cause everytime i kept 5kg proper weight.

Weight 88.9kg

Bodyfat

Bicep 5
Tricep 8
Sc 12
Lh 22
Abs 20
Q 15
Chest 7


Bicep flexed 38
Bicep rrelaxed 36
Chest 104
Shoulders 124
Mid 88
Hips 104
Thigh 61
Calf 37

Eating plan:

6uur:

Whey with 5g creatine
and
9ggs whites and cup of oats with teaspoon honey

9:30:
120g chicken and a cup of mix veg

12:00:

120g lean steak, 100g mixed veg and cup of brown rice

15:00:
120g steak and cup of white rice

Pre workout with 5g creatine en 5g Bcaa's

after gym 5g creatine, protein shake and 3 weetbix and 4g glutimine

18:00:
150g steak/hoender 200g sweet patato

Before Bed
Casein protein shake or cup fat free cottage cheese

A little less protein is not necessarily a bad thing.
My understanding is that 200g per meal is the max your body can process (if you're genetically gifted)

That said, excess protein is wasted and just adds load to your system, kidneys, etc.

The diet looks very lean i.e. not much in the way of fats.
Not a bad thing if you're wanting lean gains, but with anadrol, maybe you should be aiming for max gains.

Just my 2 cents.

From what I know about nutrition , your protein is correct for your weight at the moment , but there is very little carbs in that cycle and you need calories , clean carbs , quality protein to add muscle mass

Personally that is not a good diet I would go with something much different but maybe that is just me

If I could give you an example

100g cooked weight chicken breast has 28-30g protein and 165cals

120g cooked weight chicken breast has 35-37g protein and 198cals

150g steak cooked weight has about 45g protein and 250cals

So you see what I am trying to say , you need 2g - 2.5g protein per kg body weight of protein to add muscle mass

So take your weight which is 88.9kg so let's take 89kg X 2 = 178g protein per day or , 222g per day

So maybe have a look at you diet again

He said he would add carbs a few weeks later and add fats.
The eating plan will be changed as we go along.

Well if he gave you the full diet right from the start you wouldn't need him any more.... :lol:

Enjoy it Mince, its a great cycle. Loved the Deca, Loved the Anaps
Looking forward to your progress.

FIllet wrote: Enjoy it Mince, its a great cycle. Loved the Deca, Loved the Anaps
Looking forward to your progress.

Thx Fillet
Ass is itching to see what the end result would be

Training and eating right you will easily get your 100kg bro.

Honestly dude that diet is kak you should ask for your money back. Your calories are less than mine, I am on keto and you are on a Deca/Anadrol cycle ffs! You don't have any proper fats or any real variety in foods. Your meals around workout times are lacking. Overall it's just kak. You should gain about 7-10kg from the A-bombs so don't think it's your trainer that is doing the magic. Most of this is water so expect to lose about 80% of it post cycle. I am sorry I couldn't give more positive feedback I hate being the cynic.

Pyroclasm wrote: Honestly dude that diet is kak you should ask for your money back. Your calories are less than mine, I am on keto and you are on a Deca/Anadrol cycle ffs! You don't have any proper fats or any real variety in foods. Your meals around workout times are lacking. Overall it's just kak. You should gain about 7-10kg from the A-bombs so don't think it's your trainer that is doing the magic. Most of this is water so expect to lose about 80% of it post cycle. I am sorry I couldn't give more positive feedback I hate being the cynic.

Coming from you its a bit of a eye opener.

Spoke to him said he is doing on purpose to make the body sensitive to protein and glycogen and then in 2 weeks we changing the diet again

No he is talking shit...

Increase your calories and add some complex carbs.

Fire the guy, and do it yourself.

Mince wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: Honestly dude that diet is kak you should ask for your money back. Your calories are less than mine, I am on keto and you are on a Deca/Anadrol cycle ffs! You don't have any proper fats or any real variety in foods. Your meals around workout times are lacking. Overall it's just kak. You should gain about 7-10kg from the A-bombs so don't think it's your trainer that is doing the magic. Most of this is water so expect to lose about 80% of it post cycle. I am sorry I couldn't give more positive feedback I hate being the cynic.

Coming from you its a bit of a eye opener.

Spoke to him said he is doing on purpose to make the body sensitive to protein and glycogen and then in 2 weeks we changing the diet again

Pyroclasm wrote:

Mince wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: Honestly dude that diet is kak you should ask for your money back. Your calories are less than mine, I am on keto and you are on a Deca/Anadrol cycle ffs! You don't have any proper fats or any real variety in foods. Your meals around workout times are lacking. Overall it's just kak. You should gain about 7-10kg from the A-bombs so don't think it's your trainer that is doing the magic. Most of this is water so expect to lose about 80% of it post cycle. I am sorry I couldn't give more positive feedback I hate being the cynic.

Coming from you its a bit of a eye opener.

Spoke to him said he is doing on purpose to make the body sensitive to protein and glycogen and then in 2 weeks we changing the diet again

:lol: :lol: :lol:

And his gone went back to old diet rather gym is horrible on this diet feel as if i want to faint the whole time. Im back on my 4000 calorie diet seeing Hennie K for assesments this week.

Good move

Ok so week3 and everything still looking good had no funny side effects so far.
I havent measured yet but my arms look a bit bigger
Just wanna know is proviron the best to use against not getting colds and flus?
Cause i normally get sick here by winter time. Im using Patrick Holford at the moment

Proviron won't do anything for colds and flu prevention bud.

Do you mean Pro-v-guard bud?

Mason Might wrote: Do you mean Pro-v-guard bud?

JAAAA here we go lol had the names mixed up