Need advise on my third cycle for bulking

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26 Nov 2014 13:31 #178082 by Pyroclasm
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Oupa wrote: Rotating 6 pin sites means you pin your first pin site about 10 days later..

HCG cant even be seen as a pin... dis mos nou fokkol man.


HCG still burns dude. It's not life changing pain but you still notice it. On my 9 week Test Prop/NPP cycle I was pinning 6 sites all glutes (doesn't get easier and less painful than that) and I still felt like a war victim after all those pins. Never again! Twice/once a week for the win!

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26 Nov 2014 13:48 #178086 by Pyroclasm
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In my eyes this would be your second cycle. So I would keep it simple!

Week 1-12: Test-En @2x300mg per week
Week 1-6: T-Bol @5x10mg ED
On this cycle it is vital to make liver support a top priority
Week 10-16: Anavar @6x10mg ED
Week 10-16: Proviron @2x20mg ED
Week 6-16: HCG @2x250iu per week
Week 17: Start PCT 1
Arimidex in hand for possible gyno

Start the liver support three weeks before the start of the cycle.
This cycle is very effective at adding lean muscle and you should not experience any negative side effects unless you are prone to gyno in which case you have the Arimidex.

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26 Nov 2014 14:19 #178096 by RFX
This is much better thanks pyro, sorry oupa, maybe on a later stage. Pyro a dumb question on hcg, my supplier has 5000ui - 2ml, what do i do here..

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26 Nov 2014 17:00 #178103 by Chem1
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You could keep Pyro's cycle as it is but switch tbol for anadrol. That's what I'd do anyway :)
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26 Nov 2014 21:14 #178121 by Pyroclasm
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You are free to frontload with anything that you think would work best. We all think and act differently as you can see with Chem1 and Oupa and myself. The important part is that your reasoning is always solid. I chose T-Bol because it gives lean gains and very little water that last quite long, which is what you want for the Lazar kind of look. I think Anadrol is a bit too strong for a second cycle and it has nasty gyno that you need to watch out for. If you want to go that way then rather D-Bol again.

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26 Nov 2014 21:35 - 26 Nov 2014 21:37 #178124 by RFX

Pyroclasm wrote: You are free to frontload with anything that you think would work best. We all think and act differently as you can see with Chem1 and Oupa and myself. The important part is that your reasoning is always solid. I chose T-Bol because it gives lean gains and very little water that last quite ílong, which is what you want for the Lazar kind of look. I think Anadrol is a bit too strong for a second cycle and it has nasty gyno that you need to watch out for. If you want to go that way then rather D-Bol again.


Order is set as per pyros cycle, will keep you updated on this cycle. Thanks to all for the help.
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26 Nov 2014 22:05 #178126 by Oupa

RFX wrote:
I want to bulk up again and was thinking of running the beginner sample cycle in this forum and bridge with winny


i suggested the cycle based on the above. nothing wrong with pyro's cycle but the boy has gotta eat a horse to bulk with that.

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27 Nov 2014 11:38 - 27 Nov 2014 12:10 #178148 by Pyroclasm
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RFX wrote: This is much better thanks pyro, sorry oupa, maybe on a later stage. Pyro a dumb question on hcg, my supplier has 5000ui - 2ml, what do i do here..

CycloTrpTyr wrote: Work through it with me.

1 vial of Pregnyl contains 5000 International Units (IU) of HCG.

You add 1ml of water to enable the stuff to be injected.

Therefore you have 5000IU of HCG per 1ml of water.

Are you still with me.

if there is 5000IU/1ml, then it follows that
there is: 2500IU/0.5ml (divide both sides by 2)
1000IU/0.2ml (divide both sides by 5)
500IU/0.1ml (divide both sides by 10)

Does this make sense? If you have 5000IU per ml then you also have 500IU per 0.1ml
You want 250IU twice a week which is 500IU per week.

Therefore you want to inject 0.1ml per week in total. (500IU per 0.1ml)

Now forget units.

You split this up in two as you inject twice per week. Thus you have 0.1ml divided by 2 which gives you 0.05ml

Therefore you have to inject 0.05ml twice a week.

On an insulin syringe the volume (ml is designated as units. i.e. 1 Unit = 0.01ml. 10 Units = 0.1ml etc)

Therefore 0.05ml = 5 Units.


Because you have 2ml instead of 1ml, take every answer you get and say half strength or double the volume.
I.e 2500iu per ml
I.e 0.1ml = 5iu
I.e You need to inject 0.1ml twice a week.
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