Heritage - First Cycle Log

@ Oupa, Thanks will do - we'll piece together a more advanced second cycle when the time is right!

@ MA, Thanks for looking out!

@ Ron, Thanks bud...I've never used Yohimbine but I hear Clen works great with it! I think I'm sold though and will give it a bash!

@ Heritage

Bud I can't see your last post from this morning. Just me or was it removed?

RonTheSaveg wrote: @ Heritage

Bud I can't see your last post from this morning. Just me or was it removed?

Okay sorry, never mind. It appeared. Maybe my browser. :blink:

Heritage wrote: I've never used Yohimbine but I hear Clen works great with it!

And the Yohimbine is a good Libido booster for during or after PCT. :woohoo:

RonTheSaveg wrote:

RonTheSaveg wrote: @ Heritage

Bud I can't see your last post from this morning. Just me or was it removed?

Okay sorry, never mind. It appeared. Maybe my browser. :blink:

Nope sorry, bud was editing the post...couldn't get the quote thing to work lekker. Last time
I got wrapped on the knuckles by Pyro for doing wrong :blush:

So your browser is A-OK!

RonTheSaveg wrote:

Heritage wrote: I've never used Yohimbine but I hear Clen works great with it!

And the Yohimbine is a good Libido booster for during or after PCT. :woohoo:

If that is the case, then I'm definitely in!
If I go cold turkey on my wife after whats been happening to her while I've been on Prop, I'm sure she'll send me packing!

Heritage wrote: Nope sorry, bud was editing the post...couldn't get the quote thing to work lekker. Last time
I got wrapped on the knuckles by Pyro for doing wrong :blush:

Gotta keep the pimp hand strong!

Heritage wrote: If that is the case, then I'm definitely in!
If I go cold turkey on my wife after whats been happening to her while I've been on Prop, I'm sure she'll send me packing!

Hahahaha! Bru I recon it's not gonna be long and she's gonna be done with you wanting to 'bang' all the time! Your wifey is gonna count the days to PCT! :lol: :lol: :lol:

But seriously, on this cycle and your age considered.. Your PCT will be lank smooth. Don't think about it, just think in your mind everything is totally normal.

Pyroclasm wrote:

Heritage wrote: Nope sorry, bud was editing the post...couldn't get the quote thing to work lekker. Last time
I got wrapped on the knuckles by Pyro for doing wrong :blush:

Gotta keep the pimp hand strong!

Damn Straight Pyro!

RonTheSaveg wrote:

Heritage wrote: If that is the case, then I'm definitely in!
If I go cold turkey on my wife after whats been happening to her while I've been on Prop, I'm sure she'll send me packing!

Hahahaha! Bru I recon it's not gonna be long and she's gonna be done with you wanting to 'bang' all the time! Your wifey is gonna count the days to PCT! :lol: :lol: :lol:

But seriously, on this cycle and your age considered.. Your PCT will be lank smooth. Don't think about it, just think in your mind everything is totally normal.

Haha! I hope not!

Yeah I totally agree, this game we playing has a very strong mental aspect to it. Sometimes I think even more so than the weights in the gym.

Heritage wrote: Yeah I totally agree, this game we playing has a very strong mental aspect to it. Sometimes I think even more so than the weights in the gym.

Bru, I have made it my biggest mission on my current cycle to really focus and visualise the gains in my mind with every workout. This has been my best cycle by far. I'm so enjoying it and I'm truly letting my mind do a lot of the work.

Morning Board,

I've been playing with the idea of adding a "fat-loss agent" during bridge and post cycle.

Ronthesavage has suggested Yohimbine & Clen, which I'm keen for...but this is where the problem lies:

I can't get yohimbine on it own. I can get the Clen no problem.

So I have the following options available (Both from Axio - I know it's not everyones first choice, but hey you got to work with what you can get).

1) ICYPLEX - Blend of Yohimbe Hcl & Clen Hcl (Its injectable which seems a bit over the top to me)
2) CYX3 - Tab form, contains Clen & Yohimbe but also contains T3 (Not to keen on the T3 - seems counter active to running a course as it doesn't distinguish between Muscle and fat while messing with your thyroid at the same time)

I could just run clen on its own though, worked in the past but would like to bump it up a bit.

Any advise?

Please don't suggest 3F - cause that was my first choice when it came to fat burners but for some reason I can't get that either

Hey bud...

Don't use a blend, you can't control the dosages like you can with the separate compounds. I used that same blend you are referring to. Results were very average compared to my Clen and Yohibine cycle that Pyro recommended. I'm also shit scared of T3.

Read Pyro's thread on the Clen and Yohimbine. I also discussed this exact thing you asking about in that thread somewhere.

I don't understand why you can't get the Yohimbine bud. Use the contact us button. Maybe you can get some help hey. Look at the LP Yohimbine maybe? I used it! It was great!

Oh and bud, VERY important is the Bata Sleep to up regulate the receptors >> not to help you sleep! LOL! :lol:

Just a heads up.. You can get it over the counter at Dischem, but start stocking up now. Last time they had a shit cause I asked for 6 boxes. Told me they not a wholesale medical company and I need some kind of licence to buy it if I want that quantity! Such BS! I got it anyway, but I was warned! It's cheap as chips as well.

RonTheSaveg wrote: Hey bud...

Don't use a blend, you can't control the dosages like you can with the separate compounds. I used that same blend you are referring to. Results were very average compared to my Clen and Yohibine cycle that Pyro recommended. I'm also shit scared of T3.

Read Pyro's thread on the Clen and Yohimbine. I also discussed this exact thing you asking about in that thread somewhere.

I don't understand why you can't get the Yohimbine bud. Use the contact us button. Maybe you can get some help hey. Look at the LP Yohimbine maybe? I used it! It was great!

Thanks Ron - I thought as much, that's why I wasn't overjoyed with my options.

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RonTheSaveg wrote: Oh and bud, VERY important is the Bata Sleep to up regulate the receptors >> not to help you sleep! LOL! :lol:

Just a heads up.. You can get it over the counter at Dischem, but start stocking up now. Last time they had a shit cause I asked for 6 boxes. Told me they not a wholesale medical company and I need some kind of licence to buy it if I want that quantity! Such BS! I got it anyway, but I was warned! It's cheap as chips as well.

Haha - Dischem bastards!!

I used Beta Sleeps when I ran the Clen to cut B/F before the cycle.
My Dischem gave me 5 boxes no problem. I like to play dumb and always start with my wife needs me to get the following for her...and I look all confused like I don't know what I'm buying :lol: :lol:

Howzit heritage. Great log bud, gonna read it again to pick up some tips!
How are things going?
Also on my first proper cycle and loving it.

@ Thumper - Thanks Bud, trying to keep it as informative as possible so any newbie can sort of know what to expect if they run a cycle similar to mine.

Things going well, picked up a couple Kg's and strength is up as well.
Eating very clean and running an AI so hoping for very little water retention - looking for quality lean gains. I'm going to do my outmost to keep what I've gained at the end.

Good luck for your cycle, I see you're asking about your second cycle already.
Best get some bloodwork done before you start the next one...just to make sure you've recovered
completely!

Week 6: 06 July - 12 July

Current Weight: 113.7 Kg

Have dropped 1.5Kg this week, I am running maintenance + 300 Cal per day currently. Hoping the drop in weight is due to the TBol stopping and hopefully not retaining as much water.
That been said not unhappy with the drop in weight as I'm much leaner.

Lean muscle up & body fat down (Currently at 14.5% which is 1.5% drop since start of cycle).

Strength: Couldn't been measured as I was doing High Intensity with lower weights and more reps during this week. It actually felt great, and will throw it in every 3rd week for the rest of my cycle. For this week I'm back on pushing max weights.

Sides: Still get the occasional headache. Not too Aggro, only slow and bad drivers seem to be getting to me like never before...feel like climbing out my car two to three times a day(Only feel like doing - haven't actually done it yet). Sex drive is still great.

Have decided to run clen & yohimbine during bridge and post cycle.
Have also decided to run 3F after that to see if I can get my bodyfat down to about 10% while
I'm off cycle.

Have a good week and thank you everyone for all the input and advise!

RonTheSaveg wrote: Hey bud...

Don't use a blend, you can't control the dosages like you can with the separate compounds. I used that same blend you are referring to. Results were very average compared to my Clen and Yohibine cycle that Pyro recommended. I'm also shit scared of T3.

Read Pyro's thread on the Clen and Yohimbine. I also discussed this exact thing you asking about in that thread somewhere.

I don't understand why you can't get the Yohimbine bud. Use the contact us button. Maybe you can get some help hey. Look at the LP Yohimbine maybe? I used it! It was great!

+1 Thanks Ron, I'm sorted managed to get hold of someone who could help with the Yohimbine.

Heritage wrote:
+1 Thanks Ron, I'm sorted managed to get hold of someone who could help with the Yohimbine.

Awesome bud. You will love that cycle! I promise. And you will probably even get to that 10% BF with the Clen and Yoh. I know you can do it Heritage!

Thanks for the great up- dates on your cycle my bru!
Bru, I also lost a little weight after stopping the T-Bol. I'm just staying off the scale. Just freaks me out. What the the people and the mirror are saying are not matching my scale at all bud. I'm a lot bigger and so funny, but way more lean too! And hardly gone up in weight! Max 2kg's! :blink:

Week 7: 13 July - 20 July

Current Weight: 116 Kg (Weight back up)

Strength (Up another notch):

Incline Dumbell Press: 60Kg x 10 Reps - Reps went from 4 to 10
Seated Preacher Curls: 20 Kg Dumbell (superset with 16 Kg - Preacher hammer curls)- Hammer Curls up from 14 - 16Kg
Leg Press: 440Kg x 8 Reps - Added two extra reps
Lat Pulldown: 120Kg x 6 Reps - Increased from 105 - 120 (Nice Improvement there)

Sides:Since stopping the T-Bol virtually nothing, my wife did mention the hair on my back looks darker/thicker. Will Veet in summer, not planning on taking my shirt off anytime soon.

Notes: I possibly think I could have run a heavier test dose. I think 450mg p/w considering my height and size was a little low.
But this is how we learn!

Have a great week guys!!

Heritage my bro. Awesome organized way of showing your updates. And great progress man.
+1 bro.

Nate

Nate40 wrote: Heritage my bro. Awesome organized way of showing your updates. And great progress man.
+1 bro.

Nate

Thanks Nate,

Trying to keep it as informed as possible, so any newbies looking at similar cycle...don't have crazy expectations. No wonder drugs here

Morning Guys,

Just wanted to share...

Yesterday I did chest and gym was packed...
So I had to start with bench instead of Chest Press.

Warmed up on 60g x 15reps

Then: 100Kg x 12 Reps
120Kg x 10 Reps
140Kg x 8 Reps

All of this was unassisted, So I got myself a spotter and attempted 160Kg...got 4 reps unassisted.
I've never benched more than 140Kg before, so I was most impressed!