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I am 42 years old, 74 kg, 10% body fat, exercise 8 to 10 hours per week (gym, cycling, yoga) and eat quite well (5+ meals with high protein and no junk). I am looking to gain and hold onto 3 to 5 kg of weight while keeping fat at or below 10%. Also, I am keen to avoid acne at any cost - I had a breakout in 1st cycle and since done a course of accutane.
I am thinking of the following:
1-12 test e 500 mg/wk
1-12 mast e 300 mg/wk
1-12 arimidex .5 mg every third day - very expensive so hoping to stick to 1 box of 30 tabs
1-12 anavar 50 mg/day
pct
Wait 30 days then do PCT 2 from anabiolicsteroids.co.za site (clomid, nolvadex, hcg)
Apart from any other advice, i have a few questions:
What are your views on enanthanate vs. propionate. I would like to limit frequency of injections but also not sure if it would be better to have shorter acting esters and start pct sooner
Is masteron ok if i am acne prone. If not what else could i use. Maybe primobolan?
Thanks,
Duncan
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As for the anavar being run week 1-12 i dont think ppl will recommend that, i see most guys run winny or anavar ed from week 12 until you start pct(bridging), like weeks 13-16 and that way you dont have to worry about the waiting time to pct as your body will stay anabolic...
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but this is purely what i have learned on the forum i have yet to do my first cycle...
EDIT- I see you are only looking at gaining 1 to 1.5kgs a month! everyones going to tell you to do that naturally< i seriously dont believe you need AAS for that...
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Mr T wrote: Its better more experienced guys give you advice but to my knowledge test prop kicks in faster than test E but requires injections EOD(shorter half life) whilst test E can be pinned once or twice a week(more stable blood levels)eg monday and thursday but i believe that whichever testosterone you choose overall gains will be the same...
As for the anavar being run week 1-12 i dont think ppl will recommend that, i see most guys run winny or anavar ed from week 12 until you start pct(bridging), like weeks 13-16 and that way you dont have to worry about the waiting time to pct as your body will stay anabolic...
No Anavar needs to be run for atleast 6 weeks to get any real benefits from it. You are right about the pinning schedule.
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Pyroclasm wrote:
Mr T wrote: Its better more experienced guys give you advice but to my knowledge test prop kicks in faster than test E but requires injections EOD(shorter half life) whilst test E can be pinned once or twice a week(more stable blood levels)eg monday and thursday but i believe that whichever testosterone you choose overall gains will be the same...
As for the anavar being run week 1-12 i dont think ppl will recommend that, i see most guys run winny or anavar ed from week 12 until you start pct(bridging), like weeks 13-16 and that way you dont have to worry about the waiting time to pct as your body will stay anabolic...
No Anavar needs to be run for atleast 6 weeks to get any real benefits from it. You are right about the pinning schedule.
well then would you run it on cycle or as a bridge?
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Mr T wrote: EDIT- I see you are only looking at gaining 1 to 1.5kgs a month! everyones going to tell you to do that naturally< i seriously dont believe you need AAS for that...
Is that just 1 -1.5 kg of body weight(including fat weight) or solid lean muscle? from my experience (10years lifting) i have found that a person that's been training for a few years can only put on about 100-150g muscle per month naturally and even then your diet should be close to perfect! When i was a newbie i use to gain between 1kg per month for about 2 years and then it stopped.
On the other hand maybe i'm just screwed! :dry:
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If not 300mg mast per week should keep gyno in check hey...
I would gooi the anavar for 8 weeks - work back 2 days before pct then start anavar, its not that toxic and I know guys who take anavar only cycles for 16 weeks +....
just take a good liver support supp...
Lets go!
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gorilla wrote: I would gooi the anavar for 8 weeks - work back 2 days before pct then start anavar,
Huh?
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Eidolon wrote:
gorilla wrote: I would gooi the anavar for 8 weeks - work back 2 days before pct then start anavar,
Huh?
Think he meens to start the anavar 8 weeks and 2days before pct starts
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Am wondering about doing primo instead of masteron. My body fat is low enough but read that masteron is more likely to cause acne. Any thoughts on this?
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Main cycle
1-12 test cypionate 500 mg/wk - couldn't get pure enanthate from my guy
1-12 primobolan enanthanate 300 mg/wk - switched from masteron as read it is less likely to cause acne
1-12 arimidex .5 mg eod
Bridge
8-16 anavar 50 - 60 mg/day - will see how liver handles
pct
30 days after week 12 for 37 days
Day 1 to 7 clomid 2x50mg/day
Day 8 to 37 nolvadex 20mg/day
Day 8 to 26 hcg 500iu/day eod
Any final comments and suggestions would be appreciated. Will be placing order next week.
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4:30am pre workout drink with 40g protein (vegan mix with balanced amino combo as allergic to dairy and all types of whey) plus low gi carb + bcaa
6:30am post workout drink with 30g protein (egg white and 'Carnivore' meat based protein powder) plus bcaa
8am breakfast with 2 eggs, 2 rye toast and 1 portion of low fat back bacon
10am 20 to 40g of vegan protein powder
12pm 2 portions of meat plus 1 portion starch and 1 portion vegetables
3pm tuna, egg and vegetable or pulse salad
5:30 pm chicken sandwich
7:30 pm 1 portion meat plus 1 portion starch and 1 portion vegetables
Weekends are harder to maintain but follow similar routine
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Cyp half life is 12days, that meens after 36days the test levels will be low enough to start pct!
Go kick who ever told you 2weeks in the nuts:silly:
Hcg can be ran in the cycle but I don't think its necessary for yours, I'm also not sure about the protocol! Maybe some of the more experienced guys can comment.
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cycles...
could someone please put this together if possible and give a bit of suggestions around it..
cypionate
test propionate
testiviron
equipose
deca 100
what else,can you combine it seems like alot of tests, but i really dont know what combination..
thanks
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