First Cyle - Info and Advice

What's wrong with it?

a lot
you going to bulk on 8 provitas and a cup or rice a day?

Those aren't the only sources of energy in his diet:huh:

He has a certain level of structure. It is not a complete nightmare. All it needs is 1 or 2 additions and some fine tuning.

i know, you should both try his diet then and let me know how it goes

wake up on the wrong side of the bed there rvp?

Before you all shout "kak" dieet go work out the cals in the dieet! Everone just tells everyone to go read the dieet sticky without actually giving constructive input! Judging by his photo and by the fact that he is a yoga instructor I doubt he's totally in the dark regarding dieeting!

to be honest yeah ha ha. bit grumpy, i miss cigarettes

well he said he read the stickys. im sure he has a better understanding now.
sorry if i was a little girl guys

His diet consists mainly of Mass Gainer shakes. The rest looks fine but the yoghurt doesn't have to be there. Also there are no fats in his diet (other than the mass gainer shakes), and there is no protein before bed. That's pretty bad!

All good:p was just saying anyway

Here is my current "before and after" photo.

http://flic.kr/p/cq8xwo

Next step is making my current "after photo" the "before" photo

Pyroclasm wrote: His diet consists mainly of Mass Gainer shakes. The rest looks fine but the yoghurt doesn't have to be there. Also there are no fats in his diet (other than the mass gainer shakes), and there is no protein before bed. That's pretty bad!

The mass gainer shakes are just go-betweens as I am not used to eating soooo much lol. They will be replaced with real foods I have also added peanut butter (28g at lunch and before bed)

There are only 2 shakes in his diet so won't say it consits out of it! Infact he can most probably add in another before bed instead of peanut butter, or peanut butter and whey! The whole carbs before bed thing has been blown way out of proportion anyway! I'll only keep on adding more food as he grows! Yogurt is also very healthy and infact promotes muscle building!

10 REASONS YOGURT IS A TOP HEALTH FOOD
*1. Yogurt is easier to digest than milk.* Many people who cannot tolerate milk, either because of a protein allergy or lactose intolerance, can enjoy yogurt. The culturing process makes yogurt more digestible than milk. The live active cultures create lactase, the enzyme lactose-intolerant people lack, and another enzyme contained in some yogurts (beta-galactosidase) also helps improve lactose absorption in lactase-deficient persons. Bacterial enzymes created by the culturing process, partially digest the milk protein casein, making it easier to absorb and less allergenic. In our pediatric practice, we have observed that children who cannot tolerate milk can often eat yogurt without any intestinal upset. While the amount varies among brands of yogurt, in general, yogurt has less lactose than milk. The culturing process has already broken down the milk sugar lactose into glucose and galactose, two sugars that are easily absorbed by lactose-intolerant persons. 

*2. Yogurt contributes to colon health.* There's a medical truism that states: "You're only as healthy as your colon." When eating yogurt, you care for your colon in two ways. First, yogurt contains lactobacteria, intestines-friendly bacterial cultures that foster a healthy colon, and even lower the risk of colon cancer. Lactobacteria, especially acidophilus, promotes the growth of healthy bacteria in the colon and reduces the conversion of bile into carcinogenic bile acids. The more of these intestines-friendly bacteria that are present in your colon, the lower the chance of colon diseases. Basically, the friendly bacteria in yogurt seems to deactivate harmful substances (such as nitrates and nitrites before they are converted to nitrosamines) before they can become carcinogenic. 
Secondly, yogurt is a rich source of calcium - a mineral that contributes to colon health and decreases the risk of colon cancer. Calcium discourages excess growth of the cells lining the colon, which can place a person at high risk for colon cancer. Calcium also binds cancer-producing bile acids and keeps them from irritating the colon wall. People that have diets high in calcium (e.g. Scandinavian countries) have lower rates of colorectal cancer. One study showed that an average intake of 1,200 milligrams of calcium a day is associated with a 75 percent reduction of colorectal cancer. As a survivor of colon cancer, I have a critical interest in the care of my colon. My life depends on it. 

*3. Yogurt improves the bioavailability of other nutrients.* Culturing of yogurt increases the absorption of calcium and B-vitamins. The lactic acid in the yogurt aids in the digestion of the milk calcium, making it easier to absorb. 

*4. Yogurt can boost immunity.
*Researchers who studied 68 people who ate two cups of live-culture yogurt daily for three months found that these persons produced higher levels of immunity boosting interferon. The bacterial cultures in yogurt have also been shown to stimulate infection-fighting white cells in the bloodstream. Some studies have shown yogurt cultures to contain a factor that has anti-tumor effects in experimental animals.

*5. Yogurt aids healing after intestinal infections.* Some viral and allergic gastrointestinal disorders injure the lining of the intestines, especially the cells that produce lactase. This results in temporary lactose malabsorption problems. This is why children often cannot tolerate milk for a month or two after an intestinal infection. Yogurt, however, because it contains less lactose and more lactase, is usually well-tolerated by healing intestines and is a por "healing food" for diarrhea. Many pediatricians recommend yogurt for children suffering from various forms of indigestion. Research shows that children recover faster from diarrhea when eating yogurt. It's good to eat yogurt while taking antibiotics. The yogurt will minimize the effects of the antibiotic on the friendly bacteria in the intestines. 

*6. Yogurt can decrease yeast infections.* Research has shown that eating eight ounces of yogurt that contains live and active cultures daily reduces the amount of yeast colonies in the vagina and decreases the incidence of vaginal yeast infections. 



*7. Yogurt is a rich source of calcium.* An 8-ounce serving of most yogurts provides 450 mg. of calcium, one-half of a child's RDA and 30 to 40 percent of the adult RDA for calcium. Because the live-active cultures in yogurt increase the absorption of calcium, an 8-ounce serving of yogurt gets more calcium into the body than the same volume of milk can. 



*8. Yogurt is an excellent source of protein.* Plain yogurt contains around ten to fourteen grams of protein per eight ounces, which amounts to twenty percent of the daily protein requirement for most persons. In fact, eight ounces of yogurt that contains live and active cultures, contains 20 percent more protein than the same volume of milk (10 grams versus 8 grams). "*Besides being a rich source of proteins, the culturing of the milk proteins during fermentation makes these proteins easier to digest. For this reason, the proteins in yogurt are often called "predigested." *"



*9. Yogurt can lower cholesterol.* There are a few studies that have shown that yogurt can reduce the blood cholesterol. This may be because the live cultures in yogurt can assimilate the cholesterol or because yogurt binds bile acids, (which has also been shown to lower cholesterol), or both. 



*10. Yogurt is a "grow food."* Two nutritional properties of yogurt may help children with intestinal absorption problems grow: the easier digestibility of the proteins and the fact that the lactic acid in yogurt increases the absorption of minerals. And even most picky-eaters will eat yogurt in dips and smoothies and as a topping. 
Perhaps we can take a health tip about yogurt cultures from cultures who consume a lot of yogurt, such as the Bulgarians who are noted for their longer lifespan and remain in good health well into old age.

Pyroclasm wrote: His diet consists mainly of Mass Gainer shakes. The rest looks fine but the yoghurt doesn't have to be there. Also there are no fats in his diet (other than the mass gainer shakes), and there is no protein before bed. That's pretty bad!

Also one does not need fat in your dieet, its just a substitute for carbs!

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Fat is actually considered a vital nutrient. It is an important part of your diet: It can not only be beneficial ... it's essential!

Fat supplies essential fatty acids for growth, healthy skin, vitamin-absorption and regulation of bodily functions

Fat helps to carry essential nutrients throughout your body and serves as a reserve for energy storage. In fact, eating too little fat can actually cause a number of health problems. So, try not to think of fat as your mortal diet enemy, but rather a helpful counterpart in the pursuit of your healthier lifestyle

SOURCE: weightloss.about.com

Yes but most things essentially contains fat anyway, you can try and eat carbs and protein only but if you go have a look at the actual macros you will see you are infact getting in fats too! Plus I'm all for fat, plant fats of cource, but its not the only source of energy! I know of a few pro builders that don't work in fat into a dieet, same for okes who don't work exesive carbs into a dieet! All I'm saying its just not as black white as some make it out to be

yeah i agree, if something's working for you its working for you. we're all different

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: His diet consists mainly of Mass Gainer shakes. The rest looks fine but the yoghurt doesn't have to be there. Also there are no fats in his diet (other than the mass gainer shakes), and there is no protein before bed. That's pretty bad!

Also one does not need fat in your dieet, its just a substitute for carbs!

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Besides the fact that you need fats to build muscle and for a healthy immune system, another reason we add good fats to our diet is because of their high calorie content. 1g Of carbs and protein is 4kcals while 1g of fat is 9kcals. So let's say you are a 85kg male 1.85m tall- you will need approximately 3000kcals a day of which about 300g should be protein. That means that you will need 450g of pure carbs to meet your TDEE. That means you will need 11.25 cups of cooked rice a day!! Or 3kg of sweet potato!! Now imagine you needed 4000kcals a day because you are bulking how many cups of rice you will need...

Pyroclasm wrote:

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: His diet consists mainly of Mass Gainer shakes. The rest looks fine but the yoghurt doesn't have to be there. Also there are no fats in his diet (other than the mass gainer shakes), and there is no protein before bed. That's pretty bad!

Also one does not need fat in your dieet, its just a substitute for carbs!

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Besides the fact that you need fats to build muscle and for a healthy immune system, another reason we add good fats to our diet is because of their high calorie content. 1g Of carbs and protein is 4kcals while 1g of fat is 9kcals. So let's say you are a 85kg male 1.85m tall- you will need approximately 3000kcals a day of which about 300g should be protein. That means that you will need 450g of pure carbs to meet your TDEE. That means you will need 11.25 cups of cooked rice a day!! Or 3kg of sweet potato!! Now imagine you needed 4000kcals a day because you are bulking how many cups of rice you will need...

yes I know:p but I know guys that do mostly carbs, he weighs just under a hundred kgs, its insane but it can be done! But I do agree with you!

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pr0gr3s1v3 wrote: Also one does not need fat in your dieet, its just a substitute for carbs!

LOL. You can't be serious.

If you're gonna jump on roids you might as well pay a few 100 bucks DJ's way, no more headaches the guys a pro and your diet will be sorted

Pyroclasm wrote:

pr0gr3s1v3 wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: His diet consists mainly of Mass Gainer shakes. The rest looks fine but the yoghurt doesn't have to be there. Also there are no fats in his diet (other than the mass gainer shakes), and there is no protein before bed. That's pretty bad!

Also one does not need fat in your dieet, its just a substitute for carbs!

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Besides the fact that you need fats to build muscle and for a healthy immune system, another reason we add good fats to our diet is because of their high calorie content. 1g Of carbs and protein is 4kcals while 1g of fat is 9kcals. So let's say you are a 85kg male 1.85m tall- you will need approximately 3000kcals a day of which about 300g should be protein. That means that you will need 450g of pure carbs to meet your TDEE. That means you will need 11.25 cups of cooked rice a day!! Or 3kg of sweet potato!! Now imagine you needed 4000kcals a day because you are bulking how many cups of rice you will need...

I'm not going to linger on the subject for too long but the calculation is also off anyway! If using 3000 maintenance cals for example taking 300grams of protein (which gives you a bad macro ratio) that leaves 1800cals to get in via carbs, one cup of cooked rice has approximately 220 cals in, this might be a bit less depending on the type! That's about 7 or 8 cups of rice and not 11! This is also unrealistic as like I sayd in another post you will always consume fat, its present in lots of food, so infact you will most probably need even less rice! I was just making a point anyhow, the subject just got blown out of proportion:p

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1800kcals/4= 450g of carbs. 3/4 Cup of rice contains approximately 30g of carbs. 450/30=15 3/4 Cups. 15*3/4= 11.25 full cups. I listened that day in math in the 5th grade. Not sure where you are going with this though?