RVP Cycle Log

MRfeathers
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25 Jun 2012 16:22 #110679 by MRfeathers

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im not sure, theres a little left over but you wont get exactly a ml every time. so i'll have to wait and see

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Heretic47
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25 Jun 2012 16:25 #110681 by Heretic47

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that's the reason I was asking. the little nose on the syringe holds 0.1 ml of whatever you're drawing that's wasted. not much of a concern but it could add up to running a little short with your final shot, so don't forget to take that into account.

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25 Jun 2012 16:27 #110682 by MRfeathers

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sweet thanx mate. yeah ill keep an eye on it, even if i fear slightly that it wont be enough ill rather just get another vial. better to have too much than too little

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David.biohazard
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26 Jun 2012 10:07 #110718 by David.biohazard

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rvp01 wrote: ha ha pyro, all 3 names will suffice thanks for your 2c appreciate it
1) valid point, im just kakking about the water retention
2)im sharing the test with my brother so we've worked it out and 12 weeks is perfect, although ive been considering getting another vial and running it for 15 weeks
3)thanks ill up the whinny
4) im running proviron at 60mg during my cycle, ordered it today
5) PCT 1 bro
6) all oraltech and PGW

EDIT: my bad it is PCT 2 coz of the HCG

Hey bud all the best for the cycle, can't wait to see your results. IMO you only need run proviron at about 40mg/day. This will save you some bucks

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MRfeathers
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26 Jun 2012 10:12 #110720 by MRfeathers

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cool thanx dave

i was going to run it at 40mg for the 1st 2 weeks then up it to 60? yeah it will save me a lot of bucks if i run it @ 40mg. you dont think there will be much difference?

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David.biohazard
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26 Jun 2012 10:20 #110721 by David.biohazard

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I ran 40mg right through pre contest cycle and still saw the added benifits. Should be sufficient enough.

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Pyroclasm
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26 Jun 2012 11:36 #110740 by Pyroclasm

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RVP is very anal about the water retention from the D-Bol so I would say run the max dosage of Proviron and eat clean.

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MRfeathers
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26 Jun 2012 11:37 #110741 by MRfeathers

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yes thats very true, so should i go for 60 then? i suppose i can spare the extra bucks if it means i dont look like a ballon

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Pyroclasm
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26 Jun 2012 11:49 #110745 by Pyroclasm

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Let's first hear from David. Maybe he has a valid viewpoint that we don't see bro?

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26 Jun 2012 11:54 #110749 by MRfeathers

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ok cool lets wait to hear from him

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26 Jun 2012 12:19 #110757 by Muscleaddict

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Proviron will obviously help with dbol bloating but it will not eliminate it completely even at 100mg/day. On Dbol you will always have some water retention. After your dbol frontload like dave said 40mg is fine but if you are really concerned about dbol bloat rather take more proviron when you're on the dbol. Personally I would just take some adex or aromasin. Seriously too much worry about adex affecting lean gains. Just don't take too much.

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26 Jun 2012 12:25 #110758 by MRfeathers

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how much adex would you recommend i take bro? what would the minimum dose be to keep the bloating away?

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26 Jun 2012 12:56 #110763 by Muscleaddict

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With dbol, if you decide to take it you need to accept that bloating is part of the package. It converts to a much more powerful estrogen than regular estradiol so you can't avoid it.

The amount of adex needed to get your estradiol in a healthy low range will still leave you enough 17a-methyl estradiol (dbol's super-estrogen) to cause some bloat. If you then take more adex to try and stop water retention you could lower the 17a-methyl estradiol but then your estradiol would be unhealthily low and mess your igf1/gh hence affecting lean gains.

So you have to make peace with some water retention on dbol. There isn't a 'sweet spot' for AI dosing. Everyone's body is different but start with 0.5mg twice a week with the proviron up to 0.5mg EOD while on the dbol and just accept whatever bloat you still have. You can drop the dose again when you drop the orals if you want and see how you gyno sensitive to test you are without it.

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26 Jun 2012 13:00 #110765 by MRfeathers

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ok thanx bro, so would using 0.5mg twice a week for the 1st 4 weeks, then stopping the dose be a good idea?

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26 Jun 2012 13:21 #110766 by Muscleaddict

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Since it is your first cycle you might want to see how you react to test without any AI so in that case yes but also 500mg test cyp will bloat you somewhat so rather wait and judge when the time comes if you are very worried about water retention.

With adex there is always some estrogen rebound so you should never just stop suddenly. Always best to taper off and if the rebound does bug you then you can run nolva for around 7 days while aromatase levels stabilize but thats that always needed.

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26 Jun 2012 13:23 #110767 by MRfeathers

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thanx, appreciate it mate

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03 Jul 2012 20:07 #111673 by MRfeathers

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So I've been thinking about the water retention issue. If I were to cut out sodium from my diet and maybe hit the sauna a few times a week that will probably help right?
Any thoughts?

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PoisonedPulse
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03 Jul 2012 21:35 #111683 by PoisonedPulse

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bud, i dont see why you so worried about the bloat, do you think your magically going to get ballon round for nothing? if yo eat a bunch of shit all day everyday then maybe u will have a bad bloat, but if your diet is clean, its not noticible to the average person... stress less and eat clean, and you will be fine. im running enanthate and im the leanest iv ever been, its all down to diet dude... ride it out, its your first cycle, just see how you react to the dbol and test, than look at the solutuions if you do bloat, get gyno etc.. but jumping on all the AI now, will leave you clue less on how your body handles test.. (still keep them on hand incase tho) just my 2c . let us know how it goes, curious to know how u handle it

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Empire
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03 Jul 2012 21:40 #111684 by Empire

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Water makes u strong bro! Don't stress about water retention and please don't do something as stupid as sauna and cuTting sodium,I got u covered bro...

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MRfeathers
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03 Jul 2012 21:42 #111686 by MRfeathers

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Ok thanks bro appreciate it. Its just I've seen a few okes in the gym and I can see they started some gear. Probably just dbols, they look really puffy and bloated. But you're right, I know they definitely don't eat as clean as me. I've been on DJs diet for almost 2 weeks and I'm surprised to see how lean I am with all the extra calories ive been taking in. Looking forward to Monday though. I'll keep you posted.

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03 Jul 2012 21:44 #111687 by MRfeathers

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Thanx bro, I have faith

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09 Jul 2012 08:38 #112171 by MRfeathers

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first pin of cyp this morning. very impressed with the PGW, never felt a thing! glad to finally be starting this adventure :woohoo:

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Pyroclasm
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09 Jul 2012 09:22 #112173 by Pyroclasm

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Exciting stuff!!

So what is the final cycle you decided bro and what are your starting stats?

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Heretic47
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09 Jul 2012 09:25 #112174 by Heretic47

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nice, pgw is tops.

enjoy the cycle bud and be prepared for those random pumps haha

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09 Jul 2012 09:26 - 11 Jul 2012 08:00 #112175 by MRfeathers

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174cm 76KGs 12-14% BF
15 weeks testocyp @ 500mg per week
4 weeks dbol @40mg
16 weeks proviron @60mg
50mg whinny bridge

shit sorry the proviron will be for about 19 weeks as i decided to do an extra 3 weeks of test.
the goal is 90KGs

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