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Test E and Equipoise for Lean Bulking?
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27 May 2012 06:41 - 27 May 2012 10:27 #105613
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"Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one"
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honestly, force feeding is probably your best option.
if time is a problem you could make your own "mass builder" shake. just don't make the mistake I did a while back by combining loads of simple sugars from things like hot chocolate and nesquick with high saturated fats (fresh cream).
I made a shake that packed like 1300 calories, but found I put on a little too much fat. stick to quality sources of carbs like our favourite, oats, or maybe even some maize meal, futurelife or pronutro. personally I'd opt for the ones that don't swell too quickly. also, keep it under 1000 calories.
goodluck bud
if time is a problem you could make your own "mass builder" shake. just don't make the mistake I did a while back by combining loads of simple sugars from things like hot chocolate and nesquick with high saturated fats (fresh cream).
I made a shake that packed like 1300 calories, but found I put on a little too much fat. stick to quality sources of carbs like our favourite, oats, or maybe even some maize meal, futurelife or pronutro. personally I'd opt for the ones that don't swell too quickly. also, keep it under 1000 calories.
goodluck bud
"Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one"
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27 May 2012 13:13 #105632
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Thanks Heretic.
Yeah I was at a stage where I was making quite a nice shake that also tasted nice and had good sources of protein and complex carbs. It was around 3 cups of oats, 2 scoops of whey, 1 banana, 2 tspns peanut butter and fat free milk. Not sure on the nutritional values but it did help fit in some extra calories into each day.
Yeah I was at a stage where I was making quite a nice shake that also tasted nice and had good sources of protein and complex carbs. It was around 3 cups of oats, 2 scoops of whey, 1 banana, 2 tspns peanut butter and fat free milk. Not sure on the nutritional values but it did help fit in some extra calories into each day.
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28 May 2012 08:39 #105674
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My comments are not advice, medical or otherwise. I am not a medical practitioner. Always consult your Doctor before making decisions.
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@MK.
I did a similar cycle at the end of last year, I ran 525mg Eq(1.5ml) plus 375mg Test C(1.5ml), pinned once a week. I ran it for 12 weeks. Its a great cycle but I made a few mistakes.
Definitely run a front load. I'm doing it again and I will run a test Prop frontload this time. You only feel it in week 6/7 and thats too long for me.
Definitely run a bridge. If you use Test Prop & some oral, you can then still run Test up to 2 weeks before your PCT starts, I really think this is a benefit on a long cycle like this.
Run the EQ for 14 weeks.
Run Hcg during cycle, from week 5/6.
Run Proviron.
I dont think Adex is a must but it is always better to have on hand.
I found the strength gained was great and I got good lean gains but think I would have done much better with at least 600mgEq and 14 weeks. I had no anxiety issues or night issues. I had no issues with aromatisation of the test. I wanted to get lean agins so was worried about the appetite but didn't notice a huge increase. It was there but was manageable.
All in all I really enjoyed it. IMO it's a better choice of gear for your second cycle than Decca or NPP. Run this one and then look at those for cycle 3 onwards.
Let us know what your final call is.
I did a similar cycle at the end of last year, I ran 525mg Eq(1.5ml) plus 375mg Test C(1.5ml), pinned once a week. I ran it for 12 weeks. Its a great cycle but I made a few mistakes.
Definitely run a front load. I'm doing it again and I will run a test Prop frontload this time. You only feel it in week 6/7 and thats too long for me.
Definitely run a bridge. If you use Test Prop & some oral, you can then still run Test up to 2 weeks before your PCT starts, I really think this is a benefit on a long cycle like this.
Run the EQ for 14 weeks.
Run Hcg during cycle, from week 5/6.
Run Proviron.
I dont think Adex is a must but it is always better to have on hand.
I found the strength gained was great and I got good lean gains but think I would have done much better with at least 600mgEq and 14 weeks. I had no anxiety issues or night issues. I had no issues with aromatisation of the test. I wanted to get lean agins so was worried about the appetite but didn't notice a huge increase. It was there but was manageable.
All in all I really enjoyed it. IMO it's a better choice of gear for your second cycle than Decca or NPP. Run this one and then look at those for cycle 3 onwards.
Let us know what your final call is.
My comments are not advice, medical or otherwise. I am not a medical practitioner. Always consult your Doctor before making decisions.
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28 May 2012 11:08 #105718
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Hi Mfezdro
Thanks for all your advice bro, really appreciate it!
I don't think I'm going to be adding too much to my cycle and it looks like I'm gonna be running a simple 10 week Test E cycle @ 600mg, possibly for 12 weeks. The reason for this is because of various time constraints because of my studies and sport. Quite annoyed about it, as I would have loved to be able to do a full proper cycle, but DJ recommended that I rather start the cycle as late as possible towards the end of the season, so that I can focus on training on cycle and so I don't over stress my body.
I'm hoping to do a cycle like the one you've just recommended round about next year some time, but for now I'm going to have to keep things simple.
What were your gains on that cycle if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks for your advice bud.
Thanks for all your advice bro, really appreciate it!
I don't think I'm going to be adding too much to my cycle and it looks like I'm gonna be running a simple 10 week Test E cycle @ 600mg, possibly for 12 weeks. The reason for this is because of various time constraints because of my studies and sport. Quite annoyed about it, as I would have loved to be able to do a full proper cycle, but DJ recommended that I rather start the cycle as late as possible towards the end of the season, so that I can focus on training on cycle and so I don't over stress my body.
I'm hoping to do a cycle like the one you've just recommended round about next year some time, but for now I'm going to have to keep things simple.
What were your gains on that cycle if you don't mind me asking?
Thanks for your advice bud.
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28 May 2012 11:46 #105728
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No problem, there's no rush to cycle anyway so keep it simple as long as you can.
I was happy with the results, I dropped BF by 3% and gained, at my heaviest, 7kg's. 6 pack was back and I leaned up nicely. I kept around 4kg's LBM but my focus went to shit after the cycle so I picked up BF again.
My big gain was strength, my lifts went up by big percentages no problem and when the EQ really kicked in at the cycle end, it was ridiculous, as was vascularity.
I could have done a lot better with frontloading, correct diet and post cycle weight maintenance. I'm going to give the cycle another go in September though.
Good luck with yours.
I was happy with the results, I dropped BF by 3% and gained, at my heaviest, 7kg's. 6 pack was back and I leaned up nicely. I kept around 4kg's LBM but my focus went to shit after the cycle so I picked up BF again.
My big gain was strength, my lifts went up by big percentages no problem and when the EQ really kicked in at the cycle end, it was ridiculous, as was vascularity.
I could have done a lot better with frontloading, correct diet and post cycle weight maintenance. I'm going to give the cycle another go in September though.
Good luck with yours.
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28 May 2012 11:55 #105733
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Yeah, I'm trying to get bigger and gain clean lean mass, so hopefully a good diet will be a major contributor to that.
Wow bro, those are some awesome gains! Especially off such a little bit of Test! I'm very interested in doing something like this next time around, hopefully things work out for me.
Will be creating a cycle log with pics to track my progress. Thanks bud, looking forward to it, the same goes for you.
Wow bro, those are some awesome gains! Especially off such a little bit of Test! I'm very interested in doing something like this next time around, hopefully things work out for me.
Will be creating a cycle log with pics to track my progress. Thanks bud, looking forward to it, the same goes for you.
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28 May 2012 11:59 #105736
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Yeah, I'm trying to get bigger and gain clean lean mass, so hopefully a good diet will be a major contributor to that.
Wow bro, those are some awesome gains! Especially off such a little bit of Test! I'm very interested in doing something like this next time around, hopefully things work out for me.
Will be creating a cycle log with pics to track my progress. Thanks bud, looking forward to it, the same goes for you.
Wow bro, those are some awesome gains! Especially off such a little bit of Test! I'm very interested in doing something like this next time around, hopefully things work out for me.
Will be creating a cycle log with pics to track my progress. Thanks bud, looking forward to it, the same goes for you.
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