Short cycles

I would up the test to start with and then push the protein to at least 400g per day.
What are your total calories?

Also what does you training look like-total sets, days per week, length of workout.

Are you taking an anti e with the test?

Yohimbe wrote:

I would up the test to start with and then push the protein to at least 400g per day.
What are your total calories?

Also what does you training look like-total sets, days per week, length of workout.

Are you taking an anti e with the test?

No anti e, doing 1 bodypart a day 4 sets of 3 different exercises
Not sure about total calorie count, but eating like a mofo, just couting my protein.

How many days per week?

Might be a good idea to get an anti e if you're going to up the test, or do you have nolva for pct?

Yohimbe wrote:

How many days per week?

Might be a good idea to get an anti e if you're going to up the test, or do you have nolva for pct?

Nolva is in pct. I train 5 days per week 45 min weights and 15 min cardio
Yobi, in ur experience when does the effects of the prop usually start, and yes I have asked this before, my apologies

andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

How many days per week?

Might be a good idea to get an anti e if you're going to up the test, or do you have nolva for pct?

Nolva is in pct. I train 5 days per week 45 min weights and 15 min cardio
Yobi, in ur experience when does the effects of the prop usually start, and yes I have asked this before, my apologies

I start noticing the effects on sex drive by day 2, gains wise, I start feeling fuller and more pumped by day 5 and start noticing definite growth by end of week 2, early week 3.

Maybe cut your training to 4 days per week for extra recovery. Rest is very important for growth. Make sure you're getting 8 hrs sleep a night and if you feel drained and tired, take day off training-listen to your body.

If you up the test just keep an eye out fo rtell tale signs of estrogen-body fat increase, itchy nips and use the nolva if it starts

Hey andre300!

Yohimbe is giving you some good advice! See how your gains are coming along and adjust your dosages of test accordingly, but for a short cycle I personally like to up the dosage a bit, otherwise the gains you see can be disappointing. I gained about 5kg on my last 4 week cycle (900mg test prop a week). Just watch out for the oestrogenic sides. On test dosages like this I recommend taking an anti-E of some sort from the start of your cycle. Rather safe than sorry...

Yohimbe wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

I start noticing the effects on sex drive by day 2, gains wise, I start feeling fuller and more pumped by day 5 and start noticing definite growth by end of week 2, early week 3.

Lucky man... I take MUCH longer. But then again i'm on the other side of 40.
Maybe its time for TRT! Get up and stay up! :laugh:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

I start noticing the effects on sex drive by day 2, gains wise, I start feeling fuller and more pumped by day 5 and start noticing definite growth by end of week 2, early week 3.

Lucky man... I take MUCH longer. But then again i'm on the other side of 40.
Maybe its time for TRT! Get up and stay up! :laugh:

How long does it take for you notice the effects on prop?

Testosterone-the fountain of youth.

Yohimbe wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

I start noticing the effects on sex drive by day 2, gains wise, I start feeling fuller and more pumped by day 5 and start noticing definite growth by end of week 2, early week 3.

Lucky man... I take MUCH longer. But then again i'm on the other side of 40.
Maybe its time for TRT! Get up and stay up! :laugh:

How long does it take for you notice the effects on prop?

Testosterone-the fountain of youth.

Thought GH was the fountain of youth.....

Lesa wrote:

Thought GH was the fountain of youth.....

They say-haven't done any peptides yet, but a good test cycle takes me back to being 19.

Yohimbe wrote:

Lesa wrote:

Thought GH was the fountain of youth.....

They say-haven't done any peptides yet, but a good test cycle takes me back to being 19.

I'm on my 2nd test cycle and I can't say that I've felt any different.
Don't even really feel a change in libido.
In what way does it make you feel 19 again?

Yohimbe wrote:

How long does it take for you notice the effects on prop?

Testosterone-the fountain of youth.

Couple of weeks at least; but once there i feel the highs and lows daily.

andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

Lesa wrote:

Thought GH was the fountain of youth.....

They say-haven't done any peptides yet, but a good test cycle takes me back to being 19.

I'm on my 2nd test cycle and I can't say that I've felt any different.
Don't even really feel a change in libido.
In what way does it make you feel 19 again?

The sex drive, motivation and general well being-feel more accomplished some how and more motivated to get out of bed and face the day. Sound like a junkie.

What test are/did you use and what doses? You should at least feel the sex drive jump.

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

How long does it take for you notice the effects on prop?

Testosterone-the fountain of youth.

Couple of weeks at least; but once there i feel the highs and lows daily.

Highs and lows? How do you mean?

Sounds like blood level fluctuations, but not daily. What test and dose?

I have to admit though, on two cycles I suddenly fell into a major severe depression for about 4 days to week, which then cleared up. Could have been other factors, but it happened twice and has never happened off cycle or before.

It couldn't have blood levels as I was pinning daily with prop.

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

Lesa wrote:

Thought GH was the fountain of youth.....

They say-haven't done any peptides yet, but a good test cycle takes me back to being 19.

I'm on my 2nd test cycle and I can't say that I've felt any different.
Don't even really feel a change in libido.
In what way does it make you feel 19 again?

The sex drive, motivation and general well being-feel more accomplished some how and more motivated to get out of bed and face the day. Sound like a junkie.

What test are/did you use and what doses? You should at least feel the sex drive jump.

1st cycle was test e @ 600mg/week. This cycle is prop 150mg eod. Can't say my sex drive has really picked up,on my firstcycle as well

andre300 wrote:

1st cycle was test e @ 600mg/week. This cycle is prop 150mg eod. Can't say my sex drive has really picked up,on my firstcycle as well

I always get a huge jump in sex drive almost immediately. And if I add a DHT derivative it becomes so bad it's actually a problem-my GF was going to kick me out of the house when on prop and masteron.

What brand of test are you using?

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

1st cycle was test e @ 600mg/week. This cycle is prop 150mg eod. Can't say my sex drive has really picked up,on my firstcycle as well

I always get a huge jump in sex drive almost immediately. And if I add a DHT derivative it becomes so bad it's actually a problem-my GF was going to kick me out of the house when on prop and masteron.

What brand of test are you using?

PGW, and u? I must say it does concern me abit,cause everyone I speak to say they get moerse jags.

andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

1st cycle was test e @ 600mg/week. This cycle is prop 150mg eod. Can't say my sex drive has really picked up,on my firstcycle as well

I always get a huge jump in sex drive almost immediately. And if I add a DHT derivative it becomes so bad it's actually a problem-my GF was going to kick me out of the house when on prop and masteron.

What brand of test are you using?

PGW, and u? I must say it does concern me abit,cause everyone I speak to say they get moerse jags.

Everything I've heard about PGW is good. Never used it myself. Mine is from foreign source.

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

1st cycle was test e @ 600mg/week. This cycle is prop 150mg eod. Can't say my sex drive has really picked up,on my firstcycle as well

I always get a huge jump in sex drive almost immediately. And if I add a DHT derivative it becomes so bad it's actually a problem-my GF was going to kick me out of the house when on prop and masteron.

What brand of test are you using?

PGW, and u? I must say it does concern me abit,cause everyone I speak to say they get moerse jags.

Everything I've heard about PGW is good. Never used it myself. Mine is from foreign source.

It works, cause idid gain with my previous cycle and I've only once hurd someone knock pgw and that's normally cause they are punting their own product.PGW prop does not sting either.what do u use?

Yohimbe wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

How long does it take for you notice the effects on prop?

Testosterone-the fountain of youth.

Couple of weeks at least; but once there i feel the highs and lows daily.

Highs and lows? How do you mean?

Sounds like blood level fluctuations, but not daily. What test and dose?

At the end of a VERY long cycle. Actually more like 2 cycles with a 8 week low test bridge between.

Last week of TestProp 320mg EOD.(Testing some TBol/Anavar at 100mg each(ED) for the last 10 days)

My libido is the biggest sign. It skyockets during the night of a morning injection. Next night its ok.

I can definately feel its injection day.

Maybe try pin daily. I wouldn't have thought you would get fluctuations on prop with 4 day half life if pinning EOD. Would expect it with base or even acetate, but not prop, but I suppose it depends on your sensitivity to the falling concentrations-everyone is different.

andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

1st cycle was test e @ 600mg/week. This cycle is prop 150mg eod. Can't say my sex drive has really picked up,on my firstcycle as well

I always get a huge jump in sex drive almost immediately. And if I add a DHT derivative it becomes so bad it's actually a problem-my GF was going to kick me out of the house when on prop and masteron.

What brand of test are you using?

PGW, and u? I must say it does concern me abit,cause everyone I speak to say they get moerse jags.

Everything I've heard about PGW is good. Never used it myself. Mine is from foreign source.

It works, cause idid gain with my previous cycle and I've only once hurd someone knock pgw and that's normally cause they are punting their own product.PGW prop does not sting either.what do u use?

TOS-can't post sources.

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

Yohimbe wrote:

andre300 wrote:

1st cycle was test e @ 600mg/week. This cycle is prop 150mg eod. Can't say my sex drive has really picked up,on my firstcycle as well

I always get a huge jump in sex drive almost immediately. And if I add a DHT derivative it becomes so bad it's actually a problem-my GF was going to kick me out of the house when on prop and masteron.

What brand of test are you using?

PGW, and u? I must say it does concern me abit,cause everyone I speak to say they get moerse jags.

Everything I've heard about PGW is good. Never used it myself. Mine is from foreign source.

It works, cause idid gain with my previous cycle and I've only once hurd someone knock pgw and that's normally cause they are punting their own product.PGW prop does not sting either.what do u use?

TOS-can't post sources.

Was asking brand not source, but don't worry about. What anti e would u recommend if I up my prop dose?

andre300 wrote:

Was asking brand not source, but don't worry about. What anti e would u recommend if I up my prop dose?

Oh ok, sorry-it's EuroChem Labs.

Adex is probably best at 0.5mg ED-I use letro at 0.5mg EOD, but am very estrogen sensitive, so try keep estrogen low.
Depends how estrogen sensitive you are, but adex will take care of any problems