Cycle and dosage advice for beginner

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28 Nov 2017 14:13 - 28 Nov 2017 14:18 #213727 by Believer
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Hoosain wrote: hey buddy, have you read through the articles section? looks like you haven't yet.

Please read it. I might seem like a dick, but i don't feel comfortable fixing your cycle as i can see no research has been done regarding PCT. If you read the articles you will see exactly where you are going wrong. By not reading the articles it suggest you want to be spoonfed and are just in a hurry to start a cycle. This is not going to be good for your health at the end of the day


I see , 2 days after the cycle

7 days straight 2x50mg Clomid
Following up with Nolvadex 1- 20mg x 30days


Got it now thanks for correcting. Busy reading up the effects of why a PCT is needed.
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08 Dec 2017 19:50 #213830 by Morrgear
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Bud seriously, don’t bother in my opinion. A short cycle of orals will give you marginal results you likely to lose in any event. Fix your diet and training and see where you get to natural until you ready to do an Injectable test base. You gonna be disappointed with the results. What many people don’t get is that steroids aren’t magic. If you aren’t in good shape it’s cause your training and diet are crap. The gear simply sharpens what you have. I have seen it with myself: caught in the trap of “if I just add some gear and up the dosages I will look like a different person in a few weeks”. When I did my first cycle I was in a similar space to you. Doing CrossFit a few times p/w , some endurance sports, a bit of extra Wright training thrown in for good measure and you know what: it make fokall difference. Except my cardio abilities got worse - yes worse. So what did I do - i thought I needed more gear, greater variety. Guess what the results were marginal and I just felt like crap. What works for me? Ass busting training and a clean diet - fuel for the body. I went from a soft , maybe strong 85kg at 171cm and maybe 15% bf to 80kg at 4%. Less, gear, better training and diet on point.

On another note: if you want the most painless injection option. Buy insulin needles and backload them with the gear. You won’t feel then at all. Must be a mean area though and the 12.7mm needles or else the gear will in up in fat rather than muscle. Do smaller quantities ED or EOD so there are no big oil volumes. No pain, no lumps. I pin ED this way and all my issues with PIP have been resolved. Clean the area well with alchohol wipes.

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11 Dec 2017 12:20 #213855 by Believer
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Morrgear wrote: Bud seriously, don’t bother in my opinion. A short cycle of orals will give you marginal results you likely to lose in any event. Fix your diet and training and see where you get to natural until you ready to do an Injectable test base. You gonna be disappointed with the results. What many people don’t get is that steroids aren’t magic. If you aren’t in good shape it’s cause your training and diet are crap. The gear simply sharpens what you have. I have seen it with myself: caught in the trap of “if I just add some gear and up the dosages I will look like a different person in a few weeks”. When I did my first cycle I was in a similar space to you. Doing CrossFit a few times p/w , some endurance sports, a bit of extra Wright training thrown in for good measure and you know what: it make fokall difference. Except my cardio abilities got worse - yes worse. So what did I do - i thought I needed more gear, greater variety. Guess what the results were marginal and I just felt like crap. What works for me? Ass busting training and a clean diet - fuel for the body. I went from a soft , maybe strong 85kg at 171cm and maybe 15% bf to 80kg at 4%. Less, gear, better training and diet on point.

On another note: if you want the most painless injection option. Buy insulin needles and backload them with the gear. You won’t feel then at all. Must be a mean area though and the 12.7mm needles or else the gear will in up in fat rather than muscle. Do smaller quantities ED or EOD so there are no big oil volumes. No pain, no lumps. I pin ED this way and all my issues with PIP have been resolved. Clean the area well with alchohol wipes.


Alright, if don't mind give a testosterone inject cycle, light for a beginner. So that i can see how it works and doesn't show to quick gains.

I do have clomid 50mg , still need nolva.

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14 Dec 2017 12:05 - 14 Dec 2017 12:05 #213873 by Oupa
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Nothing gives quick gains, unless you have been training like a mad fuck for many years, you gain quick.
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23 Jan 2018 16:52 #214226 by Believer
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Haha oky oky,

So i finally got my diet right for strength..

Protein intake over 140g ed
fat intale at 70g ed
carb intake at 120g every 3rd day

my protein is my pushing point, i've been doing this diet for more than a week now and not sure if a placebo effect but i feel slight more strength and control at crossfit . I don't get tired as quick as i use to, feeling more energized.

I'll be tweaking the diet until i got a good balance before injecting Testo.

Question is what's the difference between Testo E and C...

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23 Jan 2018 17:56 #214229 by SamZ4000
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Believer wrote: Haha oky oky,

So i finally got my diet right for strength..

Protein intake over 140g ed
fat intale at 70g ed
carb intake at 120g every 3rd day

my protein is my pushing point, i've been doing this diet for more than a week now and not sure if a placebo effect but i feel slight more strength and control at crossfit . I don't get tired as quick as i use to, feeling more energized.

I'll be tweaking the diet until i got a good balance before injecting Testo.

Question is what's the difference between Testo E and C...


Hey there
Difference between test e & c is basically just the Ester attached to the testosterone
Test e 8-10days active half life
Test c 12days active half life

Then e.g mg/ml on some brands (pgw TestE 300mg vs pgw test c 250mg). Most guys opt for TestE300mg due to this. More bang for buck.lol

It doesnt really matter its like apples and oranges

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24 Jan 2018 09:21 #214237 by Hoosain
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Dude you are still not reading. If you read the articles like i suggested you wouldn't be asking questions like this.
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