00pump's Primo, Testocyp and Tbol Cycle..

Haha. Sounds like a killer start to the cycle bro! Stay disciplined bud and lift heavy bud! :evil:

Good morning Guys..

Just a quick up date...
Day 15 of my cycle today. 3rd pin of Cyp and Primo today and still smooth as ever. added Prop 100 to the front load at 1.5ml E2D.
Weight is now around 74kg's. Strength is nicely up and pumps are really good. I decided to not add any Adex to this cycle until any sides arise or if they even do. Nutrition is 100% on point.

So far it's going really well. looking forward to the long esters kicking in within the next week or so. :whistle:

here are some progress pics... :woohoo:

All the best...
R

Hehe. Looking good weight and see what happens to those veins down the line

00pump wrote: Hehe. Looking good weight and see what happens to those veins down the line

Thanks Bru! I cant wait to see how this one turns out!

Breh! Already rocking the Adonis Belt! Aweh keep it up!

Howzit guys!!

happy new year to you all!

I have another 3 pins left of primo then i'm onto my bridge. I have loved this cycle soooo much! everything has been so smooth! i'd run it again for sure! best cycle to run if you have the cash in my opinion!

Only thing i changed is increase my test dose 625ml/ week! :woohoo:

Here are some recent pics of my progress..

I think I look pretty much the same. perhaps the pics are not great! :woohoo:

Still thinking of ideas to make the bridge rock. in terms of nutrition, training etc. any ideas please share.

Awesome oaks. keep eating clean and training dirty!

I think you have gone extremely hard, shoulders have popped out too, your chest has grown too, you can see an increase in the size of your legs on top of that.. You have put on clean muscle, you wont lose and you have not blown up like a balloon, I agree on increase in test next time.

00pump wrote: I think you have gone extremely hard, shoulders have popped out too, your chest has grown too, you can see an increase in the size of your legs on top of that.. You have put on clean muscle, you wont lose and you have not blown up like a balloon, I agree on increase in test next time.

Pump, thank you so much for the kind words bru! I really appreciate it hey! I truly have enjoyed this cycle! it's been really consistent and i've had no sides at all! Haven't even touched an AI. may look as though my back is a bit spotty in the pic, but thats because I had just waxed it a few days before so not from the juice. :lol:

I'm looking forward to my bridge. I think I will just add in some Test Prop for two weeks into the bridge. 200mg every other day.
can you give me any suggestions on what I could change / add in while on the VAR? i'm thinking to carb cycle? and then i'll be doing a lot of swimming. at least 3 - 4 times a week. Weights will be 6 times a week. Heavy as F.. and low rep range. drop sets and super sets.

Any other suggestions to spice this end bit up a bit?

Well done Ron.
Really man WOW. I have been quietly following your thread on this cycle from the start. You look harder to me and in some areas I can see more detail and straitoins. Your abs are fuller/bigger shoulders rounder/ more capped your veins are also more prominent. Legs are bigger and leaner lasts also bigger.
I can see you really put in effort man well done you can be proud. Add creatine while on the Var and go for 5sets 5reps type training.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Well done Ron.
Really man WOW. I have been quietly following your thread on this cycle from the start. You look harder to me and in some areas I can see more detail and straitoins. Your abs are fuller/bigger shoulders rounder/ more capped your veins are also more prominent. Legs are bigger and leaner lasts also bigger.
I can see you really put in effort man well done you can be proud. Add creatine while on the Var and go for 5sets 5reps type training.

Thank you so much Rooi Bul! your kind words really mean a lot to me! I have to be honest and it's not cause i'm looking for compliments, but i look at my pics and I just don't see the gains! but i was just like, oh well, wtf, ill post them! :lol: ( guess i'm being hard on myself, which is also good! and i'm just one of those oaks who works way harder then most guys, but the gains are just always okay. Just my genetic make up and i'm okay with that now! i'm also turning 42! so even with the steroids it's still hard to gain nice muscle and if you are not gifted with good genetics you have to work your sweet ass off and nutrition is soooo key!

Thing i have learned on this journey and that is, if you don'd have the genetics nothing on this earth is gonna make you look like Bradley Martyn, Jeff Seid or Tavi Castro. like NOTHING! and thats just a hard fact of your life! :woohoo:

Thank you for the tips bru and noted! I will post more pics and hope there are some nice changes that are noticeable!

You oaks on this site have inspired me and helped me in a HUGE way! THANK YOU!

Ron mate, your transformation has been amazing. It's hard to see things from the inside, which is why so many people end up with body issues that's hard to comprehend - sitting here on my end, I struggle to understand your sadness. If you wanted to be a chubby bulker, primo was the wrong choice, but you look fucking awesome (zero homo).

The one thing I would do tonight if I were you would be to trim that Turkish rug. It makes it a lot easier to see the slow but inevitable changes our bodies go through when there's no hair warfare. \

Get your rug waxed just to find your pain threshold. :lol: You look amazing bro I cannot believe you are 42 and looking that good. I would give my left nut to look like that when I am 42!! Those obliques and lats are amazing, I mean if you came to one of our pool parties you would embarrass the hell out of all the youngsters.

Some crit from my side just because the highest trees catch the most wind: Your traps and triceps are lagging which are big factors in 'looking bigger'. Your left quad has slightly overtaken the right but it's not serious just something to keep on your radar.

Ron my man! Do what ever you want with the torso, but keep rocking the beard! But I agree what's said about making the progress more visible. I've found this especially true when cutting (once I even shaved my entire body to make sure the vascularity and striations where there!)





Honestly, goal physique at any age for me. You have a truly athletic look. That balance and hardness is also a more acceptable look around the general populace (non BB concerned) so you'll look aesthetic in everything from your swimming goggles to a formal suite. Also because you aren't out of proportion, you waon't be called out for using the "sports vitamins". Be proud. Also, I think there is a genetic factor, you visible collar bone behind a built up trap, yes it resembles low body fat, but that cavity? Little details like that make gurrrls go bonkers. (Can't remember if your married or not? No disrespect to your wife if you are).
Full disclaimer: No homo.


@Pyro: That quad imbalance, could it be the way he is leaning on one side and angle? Just wondering because it did strike me, and the imbalance I see I cannot imagine that Ron acquired by accident.

Eidolon wrote: Ron mate, your transformation has been amazing. It's hard to see things from the inside, which is why so many people end up with body issues that's hard to comprehend - sitting here on my end, I struggle to understand your sadness. If you wanted to be a chubby bulker, primo was the wrong choice, but you look fucking awesome (zero homo).

The one thing I would do tonight if I were you would be to trim that Turkish rug. It makes it a lot easier to see the slow but inevitable changes our bodies go through when there's no hair warfare. \

Haha.. Eidolon.. bru, your post made me smile so hard! Thank you for taking the time to give your opinion and comments! thank you for the kind words! I laughed so hard at your [Zero homo] add in... I'm so chilled bru, but thanks for your respect! and respect to you too!

I decided to go with the primo cause I wanna cycle, but I also wanna do the as little possible harm or damage to myself. and purely because of my age. but I hear what you are saying bru.

And ummmm regarding the Turkish rug... I totally get why you think it should go. problem is I dig it in the biggest way! :lol: :lol: :lol: wax the back hair and thats it. :silly: I kinda think i'm lucky and blessed with what god gave me! so i just kinda accepted it and learned to love it. also there are so many oaks that are totally hairless, can't even grow a decent full beard and they would kill to have the body / facial hair that I cultivate naturally. :lol: so just seems wrong that I take it off.

Pyroclasm wrote: Get your rug waxed just to find your pain threshold. :lol: You look amazing bro I cannot believe you are 42 and looking that good. I would give my left nut to look like that when I am 42!! Those obliques and lats are amazing, I mean if you came to one of our pool parties you would embarrass the hell out of all the youngsters.

Some crit from my side just because the highest trees catch the most wind: Your traps and triceps are lagging which are big factors in 'looking bigger'. Your left quad has slightly overtaken the right but it's not serious just something to keep on your radar.

Pyro!! dude i did wax my chest once or twice! it was freaking painful! oh my f... it literally bled for days! :lol: but seriously i love my fur, it makes me happy and keeps me lank warm when i'm snow skiing in Austria! LOL!

So then PLEASE can I get an invite to one of these pool parties you're bragging about?? how old are you anyway bru? you're making me feel as old as F... :lol: [just kidding bru] i'm very blessed with good genetics when it comes to ageing, it literally runs in my family.
Also bru, thank you for the kind words! you're seriously are a legit dude! [zero homo] :kiss:

And dude, i have to agree, my triceps and traps are lagging. thing is i work my Tri's sooooo hard and they are just so average. and i absolutely love training Tri's! So i seriously need to do something with both. so thank you for pointing it out to me! i'm gonna make it my mission.

RE: the left Quad.. noted captain Pyro.

Looooove this Furk!! you made my week bru! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Furk wrote: Ron my man! Do what ever you want with the torso, but keep rocking the beard! Thanks Furk! im very proud of my beard! i take good care of it, brush it with a special comb, wax it and even oil it! i freaking love it. LOL! But I agree what's said about making the progress more visible. I've found this especially true when cutting (once I even shaved my entire body to make sure the vascularity and striations where there!)

Honestly, goal physique at any age for me. You have a truly athletic look. That balance and hardness is also a more acceptable look around the general populace (non BB concerned) so you'll look aesthetic in everything from your swimming goggles to a formal suite. Also because you aren't out of proportion, you waon't be called out for using the "sports vitamins". Be proud.thank you so, so much furk! wow man, this really means so much to me! you have no idea dude! Also, I think there is a genetic factor, you visible collar bone behind a built up trap, yes it resembles low body fat, but that cavity? Little details like that make gurrrls go bonkers. (Can't remember if your married or not? No disrespect to your wife if you are).
Full disclaimer: No homo. like i mentioned erlier bru.. i'm so chilled! thank you for the respect my bru! and same respect back at you, Furk!


@Pyro: That quad imbalance, could it be the way he is leaning on one side and angle? Just wondering because it did strike me, and the imbalance I see I cannot imagine that Ron acquired by accident.

guys, to be honest those pics are not the best! been told i look way better in person and that my pose is just bad and they way i stand just makes me look totally different. I'll get some decent pics taken for me bridge progress report back.

Remember to whack the Creatine no less than 3g a day if you can do two 3/5g servings a day even better. Train as heavy as you can 5-8 reps 4-5 sets.
Would train like this post cycle too. To mature the new muscle and hold on to it better. Also keep rest between sets short like 30secs.

RonTheSaveg wrote: And dude, i have to agree, my triceps and traps are lagging. thing is i work my Tri's sooooo hard and they are just so average. and i absolutely love training Tri's! So i seriously need to do something with both. so thank you for pointing it out to me! i'm gonna make it my mission.

What's your tricep training look like?

Sorry bud you don't get an invite cause Bill doesn't like you. I always have your back and ask why but Bill just doesn't want to listen. I think it's because he's a fatty and you know what they say about jealousy. I have not yet reached the age of 30 but I am getting there way too fast! 30 of my friends got engaged in 2015 and then there was me thrilled about my high score in Candy Crush.

You just need to figure out which element of your training is missing. For one your traps might like volume and not weight. Perhaps you are not squeezing them properly. Perhaps you do not properly shorten the muscle. Perhaps your elbows move when you train. Really any one thing regarding form could be to blame.

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Remember to whack the Creatine no less than 3g a day if you can do two 3/5g servings a day even better. Train as heavy as you can 5-8 reps 4-5 sets.
Would train like this post cycle too. To mature the new muscle and hold on to it better. Also keep rest between sets short like 30secs.

The average person needs 10g per day for max levels of Creatine. It varies acc. to muscle mass.

@Furk: I wondered the same but my gut tells me there is an imbalance.

Thanks for that Pyro.
Never to old to learn... I will be upping my intake then aswell. Had good results when I upped from my normal 3g pre bed to 3g post work out and 3g pre bed. So now thinking about another two 3g servings one upon wake up and one pre work out?

I can drink 10g at a time as long as I eat, otherwise I get the squirts. During a loading phase I do 10g after breakfast and 10g after supper. Not too worried at all about having it post-workout.