Anapolan

Can you guys please give me your views on Anapolan.
Thanx

huh? It a steroid- its strong, it works, it will kill you in the long run. Maybe a bit more specific there?:blink: but that being said I like it:woohoo: Stacks well with evrything and is decent on its own- no need to exceed 50mg a day exept if ur a monster and its the ONLY anabolic to be linked in a published study with liver cancer. It can cause proges gyno and Winstrol is prob ur best on cycle cure for it, I never exceed 2 weeks but I guys 4 weeks will fly

I've heard it's a liver killer that's why I asked.

It's not really that liver toxic MG for MG compared to most other orals ,,, difference is an average dose for dbol or winstrol is 30 to 50mg a day.. Anapolon is 150mg a day

I'm on my 8th week of 800mg/week Test Cypionate + 300mg/week Testen + 350mg/week Deca. Would it be a good idea to incorp. it into my cycle or is it too late? And how much is sufficient?

It's never too late,, how much do you weigh? Dbol is better bang for your buck

96kg

So 30-50mg D-bol for 2-4 weeks would be good?

yes 30-50mg d-bol will give you a nice boost. 4wks Max ,, When I use dbol I only use it on training days so I give my liver a bit of a break for 2 days a wk,,

if possible split your dosage because the half life is very short

Dbol is till one of the most effective mass builders,, and it's easy to tell if it's real because it has a very distinctive taste

Cool beans. Another Q while were talking. Can I go directly from this bulking cycle onto a cutting cycle which would consist of: 100mg cypionate every second day + 75mg Tren every other day for 8 weeks and then add 50mg Winstrol for the final 4 weeks? I already have tons of PCT stuff so that's not a problem i'm just concerned about the lenght of time i've been on the stuff.

Yes you can bro,,, 16week cycle is nice

Vega, I think at the dosage you are at with your Testosterone and Deca, you are already at such high levels of cortisol, just adding orals now at this stage, in my opinion, will be a waste. What you guys must understand, is that after 3-4 weeks of AAS, your body starts producung much higher levels of cortisol to counteract the AAS 's effect. That's why we all stop gaining much after 4 weeks into the cycles and then need to up the doses by quite a bit. The gains in the latter part of your cycle is usually not much.... It's like a dog chasing its own tail, up the dose and immediately your adrenals start pumping out more anti-anabolic cortisol.... Just counter productive.

Here's what I would suggest:
- leave your orals for now.
- start your PCT in the correct manner and timing.
- solidify your gains by suppressing your cortisol levels as much as possible. Start using mirtazipine for 4 weeks, add in avena sativa and Longifolia jack, use some phasphatedyl-serine if you can get it. A good product combination for this is a product called Brutal Jack by BioSync - I will discuss it within the next couple of days. There was a combination of Ephadrine/caffeine 2 days on and then 2 days of Clen as a cycle I discussed in a thread earlier on - go on it!
- waite a good 6-8 weeks after your PCT and the above suggestions have been finished. Then hit a cutting cycle if you want to.
- the next time you want to go on AAS bulking cycle, try to use it only for 4 weeks, but combine orals and injectables immediately as from day one and hit high doses, aim for 1,5 - 2 grams per week if you can. Stay at the same dose for the full 4 weeks. Watch your gains every 2 days. Somewhere by week 4-5 you will notice that you don't gain anymore - cortisol has now caught up and you stop your AAS dosing and start the PCT/Cortisol suppressing cycle immediately.

I gaurantee you will have better results.......

Thanx Doc. It explains alot. I'll rather lay off and go on PCT. I have about 4 weeks worth of stock left for my current cycle so i'll go off the Deca now and slowly work my way to lower dosages of Cypionate and also stop the Testen. The start with Kessar in the last week before the last shot (2 weeks from now). Also take a shot HCG 1500IU every three days in the last week and three more shots every 5 days from there. And then Clomid 100mg for the first week and 50mg there after for 2 more weeks. And also incorporating CLEN from the last day of the cycle. What do you think of this?

Doc,

You said in an earlier thread that you feel that when people are doing PCT and then wait 6 - 8 weeks before their next cycle, the pct was a waste in your eyes. You also said that you would stay on a low dose of test between two cycles?

Have you changed your mind about what you said earlier? I totally agree with you on your view about the short 4 week cycles. Author L. Rea also explained the cortisol effect quite nicely.

Thanx Doc

Kraz, I have not changed my mind. There are two scenarios. Let's say one athlete is trying to bulk up for a competition in say a year's time - then I would suggest like I said to Vega. The other scenario is an athlete doing multiple competitions through out the year - all being within a couple of weeks of each other. In this case, PCT for me, is a waste. Stay on low dose testosterone inbetween show cycles and try to suppress your cortisol as strongly as possible during this "break" period.

Vega, try to split the Pregnyl dosage - I know it is a bit of a hassle, but use 500IU's three times per day on Pregnyl injection days. Take three insulin needles, re-constitute your 1 cc Pregnyl and draw up 33IU's in each insulin syringe, put them in fridge and use three times per day....doing it this way, you can inject very small amounts of Pregnyl at a time.
As I said, try the Clen/Ephadrine cycle I provided earlier on.....

Hi there.:S I want to ask a few q's. I want to know where I can find Anapolon 50mg tabs. I want to use them in the following combination.

Anapolon 50mg x 1 every 12hrs.
Deca 500mg twice a week.
Sustonan 500mg twice a week.

Any suggestions? I gym with a personal trainer who says this will get me huge. I have just completed a cycle of deca 250mg/sustonan 250mg

much appreciated!

Stop the bus here Fast Fred, when did you complete the last cycle and have you taken as much time off as you were on and after PCT? What are your stats and what was your gains on your previous cycle? Lets first see if what was suggested is correct and we can glady help.

Also Anapolan for your second cycle at that dose with the other compounds is a bit rough hey, how long you taking the A-Bombs for? 1000mg Deca and sus p/w for a second cycle???? Man you brave .... IMO

Hmm, very high doses second time around....
How long were you planning to take these?

Hi Guys Apology for the lack of information. I am so hyped up about this!

Ok, I am 1,86m tall, weight is 127kg. Gym now for 10 weeks. Been on Deca 25mg and Sustonan "250" for the last 6 weeks.Injected one of each once a week together. Injected last ampules today. Been on Anapolon for the last 7 days (only had 7). Gained +/- 1kg per day. Eat +/- every 3 hours. Use USN Cre-Tec 6 scoops 6 times a day. Use USN Fast Muscle Build Protein 2 scoops x 6 times a day. USN CLA 2 pills x 3 times a day. USN Phedro Cut 3 pills x 3 times a day. Use Muscle Science Testostorone XP 1 pill x 3 times a day. Will not use any Deca/Sustonan/Anapolon for the month of March (Is this long enough?) Want to start new cycle 1st of April for 6 weeks. ALL COMMENTS/ADVICE WILL BE MUCH APPRECIATED!:woohoo:

Well, first of all if you only been training for 10 weeks and already on AAS???? Should be training for way longer than that before even thinking of AAS. Also shoulds like you in a real hurry to make gains etc. I an assuming you started training and went straight on juice since Deca 250 comes in 10ml, what are you doing for a PCT and 4 weeks break is too little, also to throw A-Bombs in your first cycle? Whoever gave you that advice definately does not have your best interests nor enough experience at heart. Rule of thumb for off-cycle is that it should equal time on as a minimum. Think you are being way too impatient with AAS and also, who sold you all those supps? Supps should be exactly that, supplements and not replacements, but then again it also depends on your situation as sometimes it is very difficult to take solid food and the shakes are just easier. I am hopeing this is the case. Also, taking natural test boosters when on cycle is just a waste of money as they contribute nothing and should rather be saved for PCT or later. I also do not see any anti-oestrogen drugs either. One last question, why would you take fat burners (Phedra cut) when on a bulk / mass gain cycle? It's either or, either you gain mass or you loose body fat. To try and do both so early on is silly, sounds like you have BF you want to loose, but you also want some muscle .... very strange. Pls take this as guidance as my intention is to help and not knock you.

Just a note, when I say cycle, this includes PCT and not just your compounds you inject or swallow. Let me give an example to make sure you clear on this. You Deca and sus you ran for 10 weeks (assuming) then there is a PCT which may last 3 weeks and a week or 2 break between your last shot and PCT start, so you had 10 weeks of componds + 2 weeks break + 3 weeks PCT = cycle length of 15 weeks (this is your total time on cycle), so your total time off-cycle should be 15 weeks MINIMUM. Hope this clears any grey areas.

nitro, thanks for the advise, it is quite interest. deca/sust was for 6 weeks because there is 6 ampules in a package. Last ampules injected previous sunday.

Yes, I am very hasty, but unfortunatley, I do not know the sharks in the business yet. I run night shift, so food intake is a prob, therefor shakes.

Why do you use 6 ampules in 6 weeks, just because there was only 6 available in the package? What would have happened if there were only 50 in the package? Would you also have used them in 6 weeks?

The point: you have not read up enough and you have not planned enough - but don't dispair - you are at hthe right place now...

6 amps in package? Was it a box of six?

if so they are probably fake,, Polish fakes sold all over europe,, mainly in UK,,, surprised if it is them that they have popped up here