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16 Feb 2012 20:15 #93252 by Jelonek
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hey everyone,

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, my apologies if not.
I have been reading up on different training methods, diets, supplements and so forth and quite honestly im overwhelmed.

There are so many differing views and opinions that i dont know what to believe. If anyone could help, im looking for guidence or places to find the correct information for a newbie wanting to start training correctly to gain good quality muscle.

Im 18
1.7 metres tall
70kg with relatively low fat
(fast metabolism)
I try to eat healthily but i dont think i eat enough to gain muscle (5 small meals a day)

Any help, dierction or guidence on training dieting and supplementation would be greatly appreciated.

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16 Feb 2012 20:20 #93254 by Empire
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Hey bud,check out the max ot type of training( just google ast max ot) and that's the best place to start the training.

I have written plenty of dieting articles in the contest prep and dieting section,read dieting 101 and go from there..

All the best.
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16 Feb 2012 20:30 #93259 by Inja
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I saw DJ replyin and left the meistro to it :)
His diet threads are a very good place to start. Just take it slow and take it all in...
Then post up a thread for diet and training in each section to clarify what you don't understand.

Get a bunch of opinions (everybody's got one) and go from there, but generally the senior members like DJ Squirrel Man and Mr. Pumper give good advice.

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view
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16 Feb 2012 21:16 #93265 by spike
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Yeah try keep it simple, dont go off track with the reading as its very easy to get overwhelmed. Stick to the basics, max ot is a good place to start. Work out a training split and work out a basic diet.
Supplements wise just start with a whey protein to increase your daily protein intake

Um, but im scared of needles...

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16 Feb 2012 22:08 #93274 by CHAPEL
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don't wanna argue but i disagree a little, not completely though.. MAX-OT puts a lot of strain on the joints and you need a partner, its focused on very heavy weights..

It can be a good place to start, but you have to alter it imo.. i.e. don't do the weights that the programme suggests and take it slow at the beginning so you don't injure your self.. Other than that its A-ok

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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16 Feb 2012 23:05 #93288 by spike
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Fair point. I incorporate aspects of max ot into my routine, but i dont follow the programme

Um, but im scared of needles...

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16 Feb 2012 23:10 #93290 by CHAPEL
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same

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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17 Feb 2012 01:13 #93293 by iMan
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What about just sticking to the basics? 8-12 rep range, being able to do 8, but not more than 12. As DJ said check out the dieting section and make one and post it here so we can crit it.

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17 Feb 2012 06:55 #93298 by Empire
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look max ot for a beginner is an excellent starting place, will teach him how to train with decent weight and learn how to train to failure, yes max ot will strain your joints but that is also why they tell you to take 2 weeks off after 8 weeks of training,(its either 8 or 10 weeks) you can train with out a partner on max ot, the only thing i find i need a partner for is bench press,so i either get my wife to spot me or i use a smith machine, or go dumbells if need be, if you are taking in enough calories and joint support and omega 3 oils you wont really have an issue with your joints. if you train like a tool without correct form you will...

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17 Feb 2012 09:11 #93305 by jackrabbit1
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DJ wrote: look max ot for a beginner is an excellent starting place, will teach him how to train with decent weight and learn how to train to failure, yes max ot will strain your joints but that is also why they tell you to take 2 weeks off after 8 weeks of training,(its either 8 or 10 weeks) you can train with out a partner on max ot, the only thing i find i need a partner for is bench press,so i either get my wife to spot me or i use a smith machine, or go dumbells if need be, if you are taking in enough calories and joint support and omega 3 oils you wont really have an issue with your joints. if you train like a tool without correct form you will...


Theres the crux of the story.... Study the exercises you plan to do. Make sure you learn what it feels like to work the particular muscle you are targeting.
Max OT - for a beginner without the mind-muscle connection.... i dont think so.
Go for 10 reps and learn to feel the muscle with correct form.

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20 Feb 2012 18:19 - 20 Feb 2012 18:23 #93790 by Jelonek
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thanks everyone for the helpful input, i think i have a diet planned out and will post it in the dieting section for feedback and opinions.
Ive looked at the MAXOT and i think i will start there.
jackrabbit, i have previously done some training (but i feel its only aclimatised me to weight training and i feel that i am not getting the most out of it) with my school for rugby training.
I am hoping to start my training next week monday granted that my diet is in order.
Will keep you all posted on my progress.
thanks again for the help
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20 Feb 2012 18:31 #93791 by iMan
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@DJ in Chris Aceto's book they kind focus a lot on failure (targeting the b2 muscle fibers). Never knew that it was that important, thanks again for the book.

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20 Feb 2012 18:35 #93793 by Empire
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