Knees hampering leg training

Hi guys

I have been unable to train legs for three weeks now due to very painful knees. I tried once again this morning but couldnt do more than 2 squat sets. I have a bad right knee for a couple of years now. so bad that sometimes i can hardly walk or climb stairs for days after a good leg session. When doing a squat movement even without weights the kreeking of the knee joint is clearly audible. I can also feel things moving around within the knee when i hold it and extend and contract my leg.

Fortunately I am kind of blessed in the leg department, for example i never have to train calves as i have naturally big calves. I can even get away with training legs hard every second week.

I train from home and I'm kind of limited to squats, lunges, leg extensions and hamstring curls.

The thing is that due to the current pain and inability to train legs it is now starting to affect other areas of my training routine like deadlifts, barbell rows and shrugs.

Has anyone got any advice for me? The squats and lunges are really killing me but on the other hand i really rate squats very highly.

Thanx guys

Hey bud < i have the same problem with my left knee , although it doesn't sound as bad as yours, i bought a knee supprt strap from sportsman's , and i also strap my knee with extra band aid . It helps a lot , not sure if you have tried it , but it works for me

I'm no knee specialist but after having 3 knee surgeries in the last 4 years and trying for 6 months to train around the first injury before finally giving in, I would go and get it checked out.

Could be any number of things, someone like Spike will have a better input but without him seeing you it would never be conclusive. Save yourself some time and pain and get it checked.

Also - if you get it checked and they say you need an operation, get a second opinion - surgeons are very quick to operate when other protocols may work just as well.

Heyta my broer

Did you have any injuries or accidents on that knee?

Laters

Ondier wrote: Heyta my broer

Did you have any injuries or accidents on that knee?

Laters

As a laaitie I had a very ugly infection in the joint itself. Never experienced such pain in my life! It was almost like my joint was frozen in place and any movement hurt like a muthafucker! it started as a pimple on the knee cap, then a boil, then a hole sank into the knee and it turned black with a grey foul smelling puss. Thats when i went to doc> thought it was cancer or sumthing. Ever since then i have had trouble with that knee and its getting worse as the years go by.

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Did the doc open it or drained it? You said both knees- it is probably the right one that got weak with that puisie's vrot wortel and by nature you started putting more weight and pressure on the left knee to protect the right one. So it might be because of the extra strain on the left knee.

I'm sure Evo will agree to that- had my right knee op 12 days ago and the left knee without the op is so painful at this stage, but it is working much harder to protect the injured one.

The kreeking is usually a loose kraakbeentjie or a stoute meniscus. dit kan 'n klapgeluid ook maak as jy die been reguit maak en weer buig.

And if your knee is swollen- it can take up to 6 months to recover or for the swelling to go down- and whenever you put (squat) pressure on it again before it is completely down, it won't heal and will stay painful. I got that from Dr Daan du Plessis- the knee guru in Pretoria who does the Springbok's knees.

I would definitely suggest you go see a knee orthopedic. They can take xrays or a Mri and the guessing will be over.

You said you were in the Cape region right?
Try one of these guys
kneeandhipsurgery.com/
ssoc.co.za/dr-willem-vander-merwe.html
www.saknee.co.za/C_Patcnr.asp

But let it be know- just rest it or you might make things worse

Sterkte my broer

Lol ok dis bitji van n spraak voutjie. Dis basies net di regter knie wat gepok is. Eks ini oos kaap, BJA ver vani kaap af! Gan mar vir paar weke net leg extensions en hamstring curls doen. Die ding is ek begin sukkel met deadlifts ens angesien ek strength in my bene verloor

MCJ wrote: Lol ok dis bitji van n spraak voutjie. Dis basies net di regter knie wat gepok is...

Is jy nooit teen pokke ingeent nie?

Sit bietjie ys ook op hom- so 20 - 30 min veral as hy bietjie hammering gevat het na 'n workout. En kry vir jou van daai polestyrene / papier bekertjies en maak hom vol water dan sit jy hom in die vrieskas- as hy hard is dan skeur jy so 2cm bo af- gebruik hom dan onderstebo soos 'n massage stok of 'n roll-on en gaan lekker hard en diep op en om daai knieg in. As dit werk het hy dalk bietjie inflamasie en swelling binne in.

Sterkte man

Evo said it right, get it seen to. But not by a GP or someone too quick to refer on. You need to find someone with a good knowledge of musculoskeletal injuries who will give you the honest truth, hard to find. Many will refer straight to orthapaedic surgeon, who will generally tell you if its operable or not, and others will waste your time with promises. But it is always worth trying non-invasive treatment first

There will be some sub-conscious level of extra effort being put through the knee to protect the other but not to the extent that you seem to be suffering.

My surgeon for all 3 knee surgeries in Cape Town was Dr John May at Claremont Hospital, he's not into his weight training but he does Comrades and Oceans etc so knows what it means to be very active and the depression factor of missing out on exercise.

Being a surgeon he does tend to favour operation but to his credit he also explores other avenues first and will recommend 2nd opinions and possible other forms of treatment if at all possible.

Ondier wrote:

MCJ wrote: Lol ok dis bitji van n spraak voutjie. Dis basies net di regter knie wat gepok is...

Is jy nooit teen pokke ingeent nie?

Sit bietjie ys ook op hom- so 20 - 30 min veral as hy bietjie hammering gevat het na 'n workout. En kry vir jou van daai polestyrene / papier bekertjies en maak hom vol water dan sit jy hom in die vrieskas- as hy hard is dan skeur jy so 2cm bo af- gebruik hom dan onderstebo soos 'n massage stok of 'n roll-on en gaan lekker hard en diep op en om daai knieg in. As dit werk het hy dalk bietjie inflamasie en swelling binne in.

Sterkte man

Werk soos n bom ou! En di ys help def vi pyn verligting!

MCJ wrote:

Ondier wrote:

MCJ wrote: Lol ok dis bitji van n spraak voutjie. Dis basies net di regter knie wat gepok is...

Is jy nooit teen pokke ingeent nie?

Sit bietjie ys ook op hom- so 20 - 30 min veral as hy bietjie hammering gevat het na 'n workout. En kry vir jou van daai polestyrene / papier bekertjies en maak hom vol water dan sit jy hom in die vrieskas- as hy hard is dan skeur jy so 2cm bo af- gebruik hom dan onderstebo soos 'n massage stok of 'n roll-on en gaan lekker hard en diep op en om daai knieg in. As dit werk het hy dalk bietjie inflamasie en swelling binne in.

Sterkte man

Werk soos n bom ou! En di ys help def vi pyn verligting!

Told you so! :lol:
Bly dit is beter man. Moenie ophou as die pyn beter raak nie ne! So maand of drie en jou squat k@k is geboek! :lol:

Not a good day today at all. Drove 450km today in a golf. Having my knee bent in position and controlling the accelerator literally brought tears to my eyes! Had to stop to get out and stand a lil a few times.

Ended up going to doc. According to him I have pattelular tendonitis. He showed me in detail on few charts. Prescribed arthrotec and ibuprofen gel. Also advised the ice on the knee like Ondier did and strongly suggested that I take extra care to warm it up and stretch properly before training.

That sucks bro, is that the treatment he prescribed or will you have to undergo surgery eventually?

I'd be fairly happy with that diagnosis, typical overuse injury...easily sorted through the right stretching, icing and dynamic warm ups.

Stretch the quads, hip flexors, hamstrings, glutes and calf 2-3 times per day. Get warm before hand then go through the motions.

I'll get back to you with a great stretch website....

i had a huge bike accident where i shattered my right arm, broke both shoulders, left clavicle and broke my back in 4 places... i also hurt my left knee very badly. this was two years ago, and i still suffer from occasional shoulder and knee pains. i find that 100mg deca every two week really really helps a lot. a also do a thorough warm up and stretch before training.

DC EVO wrote: I'd be fairly happy with that diagnosis, typical overuse injury...easily sorted through the right stretching, icing and dynamic warm ups.

Stretch the quads, hip flexors, hamstrings, glutes and calf 2-3 times per day. Get warm before hand then go through the motions.

I'll get back to you with a great stretch website....

Yeah that's what the doc said DC EVO. Thanks I will appreciate the link.

MCJ wrote:

DC EVO wrote: I'd be fairly happy with that diagnosis, typical overuse injury...easily sorted through the right stretching, icing and dynamic warm ups.

Stretch the quads, hip flexors, hamstrings, glutes and calf 2-3 times per day. Get warm before hand then go through the motions.

I'll get back to you with a great stretch website....

Yeah that's what the doc said DC EVO. Thanks I will appreciate the link.

www.mobilitywod.com

This is a specific one on the site..

www.mobilitywod.com/2010/09/episode-33-f...-press-prep-hot.html

i have serious pains on the part below my knee caps. (upper shin) which actually comes from something called "Osgood Schlatter syndrome".

it occurs in tall&heavy people, and guy and girls who are still growing. I fall under the Tall and heavy category, but i have had it for the past 2 years.

The straps help a lot for leg press and full squats. its about R80 per strap, and they will last u for ever.

hope it helps.