Twice a day gyming

AlexAlazo
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10 Aug 2010 14:15 #48621 by AlexAlazo

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Hi,

I'm working out twice a day, morning cardio (30-40min) and in the evenings weights.
Is that ok or would it be better to do weights in the morning?

Also i have a banana before my cardio in the morning just so i don't workout on a empty stomach. I've read on some sites don't eat in the morning and other sites say it's no good to gym in the morning on a empty stomach. Which is it and is a banana ok?

Thanks
Alex

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Mr_SA
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10 Aug 2010 14:28 #48623 by Mr_SA

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Hi Alex

What is your goal???
Sounds like you trying to lose weight???

There shouldnt be a need to go twice a day.
How many days a week do you train??

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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AlexAlazo
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10 Aug 2010 14:34 #48626 by AlexAlazo

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My goal is like every other guy, pick up lean mass and drop the fat.

Listen i'm not overweight by a long shot. But it's that last bit that hard to get off. So thats why i'm thinking of doing cardio during the morning.

Just afraid that with all i'm eating to put on some good weight i don't burn it off during my weights session and thats why i can't shake off the last bit of fat.

I don't over do it in the mornings with cardio.

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Empire
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10 Aug 2010 14:39 #48627 by Empire

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if you arent burning fat then yout diet is not in check,i would get rid of the fat first then try and put on the mass..once u have abs then look at putting on the size!

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spike
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10 Aug 2010 19:27 #48637 by spike

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DJ's right about that... One focus at a time. Eat to grow but eat clean if thats your focus. Or cut the fat down first.
Otherwise gym twice a day aint too bad if its just cardio in the AM. Or you could shift your cardio to after your weights

Um, but im scared of needles...

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m0lt3n
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10 Aug 2010 22:31 #48638 by m0lt3n

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soz,not meaning to thread jack.
how does cardio after weights in the pm work?wont one miss out on that golden period when nutrition is extra important? or do u drink your shake before the cardio? i guess its low intensity cardio then also? an extra half an hour low intensity after 50mins of weight training yay or nay?

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'every chef is not a bodybuilder, but every bodybuilder is a chef'

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juiced169
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11 Aug 2010 07:38 #48647 by juiced169

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I would like some feedback on this one to

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Empire
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11 Aug 2010 08:46 #48651 by Empire

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no as u will be depleting glycogen stores even more....so when u stop your cardio and have your shake u will still have that golden window.

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spike
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11 Aug 2010 12:55 #48665 by spike

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yep... and basically speaking you've used up your daily calories during the weights, meaning better fatburning during the cardio

Um, but im scared of needles...

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m0lt3n
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11 Aug 2010 15:00 #48667 by m0lt3n

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so doing an extra 30mins of cardio,low intensity,will allow u to basically simmer in that golden period?is this still applicable when u are very hungry after your weights?
is it a good idea to take bcaa and glutamine then before the cardio and normal shake afterwords?

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vega5
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11 Aug 2010 21:22 #48671 by vega5

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m0lt3n wrote: so doing an extra 30mins of cardio,low intensity,will allow u to basically simmer in that golden period?is this still applicable when u are very hungry after your weights?
is it a good idea to take bcaa and glutamine then before the cardio and normal shake afterwords?

Personally I would always suggest taking in some BCAA when doing cardio. It just adds that extra buffer to protect the hard earned muscle

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Mr_SA
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12 Aug 2010 06:58 #48675 by Mr_SA

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DJ wrote: no as u will be depleting glycogen stores even more....so when u stop your cardio and have your shake u will still have that golden window.

So, you saying you should have a shake after weights, and THEN do cardio???

Give it a shot, you're only TESTing it...

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Barbell
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12 Aug 2010 07:03 #48678 by Barbell

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Mr_SA wrote:
DJ wrote: no as u will be depleting glycogen stores even more....so when u stop your cardio and have your shake u will still have that golden window.

So, you saying you should have a shake after weights, and THEN do cardio???

no ...the cardio is after weights....and he says when cardio is finished then have a shake...

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Empire
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12 Aug 2010 08:11 #48679 by Empire

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do cardio after weights,deplete the muscle glycogen,increase insulin sensitivity,burn an extra bit of body fat and then have your shake,you will find you will replenish glycogen stores like that and not spill over

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m0lt3n
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12 Aug 2010 08:40 #48680 by m0lt3n

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thanks for the feedback all. this is going to require a mindset change from me

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amped
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10 Oct 2010 13:19 #52682 by amped

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I know this is a old topic but it just caught my eye.

so could you do 30min light cardio (eg. swim) after a hectic 45min weight section if you train first thing in the morn? will the cardio not interfear with the muscle building process or will it only deplete glycogen levels and so loose fat? if you have a recovery shake straight after, with 30g protein and 16g carbs (Cytosport Muscle Milk) will the carbs in the shake not defeite the purpose of the cardio or would a pure whey shake be better?

sorry for all the questions.

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vega5
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10 Oct 2010 13:33 #52683 by vega5

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If your goal is purely to loose body fat then 20-30 mins after workouts is unfortunately not enough. I know you can't compare the average guy in the gym to a pro but the top pros do anything between 2-5 cardio sessions a day during contest prep.

In my humble opinion that's why our local guys don't get their legs as shredded as even the top amateurs in Europe and the US because they don't go that extra mile.

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amped
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10 Oct 2010 14:04 #52684 by amped

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thanks vega5

im not looking to loose weight but as im trying to put on muscle iv increases my calories but at the same time i dont want to put on any fat so wondering if the cardio would let me still build the muscle and ensure that the unused calories dont get stored as fat.

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vega5
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10 Oct 2010 14:36 #52687 by vega5

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I would just increase my weight training intensity in that case then and omit the cardio.

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amped
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10 Oct 2010 14:53 #52689 by amped

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ok cool. will do that.
would suppersets work? if so you know any good superset programs? im currently doing the max-ot program and the only rest i get is wen my gym partner is doing his set

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Empire
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11 Oct 2010 05:26 #52710 by Empire

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by doing supersets etc you are gonna use more calories,so rather like vega5 said,stick to the max ot way,increase the weight of each exercise,maybe add in another set per exercise,increase your protein calories not carbs and fats and see how that goes,remember your muscles grow when you are resting and recovering.

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