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14 Apr 2010 08:27 #42427 by Catsmasher
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My current weight at the moment is about 92kg and Im about 5ft10inches.Ive increased my calorie intake last few months because I wanted to put on some more "good" weight.Is it a fact that if I want to put on more muscle by eating 6times a day and following a gym program that I will not be able to get rid of the FAT!!!!!! :furious around my stomache? and can someone maybe give me a load-down of the most important and affective stomache exercises that I should do so I can cut out the ones that dont work.

Problem areas are weight on the side good olde love handles!
That just doesnt want to go away I swear cutting it out would be easier! :angry:

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14 Apr 2010 08:30 #42428 by Empire
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diet dude,no exercise is gonna get rid of fat in anyone area,u cant spot reduce fat and if u are eating to much then u are going to store excess calories as fat so there fore u are 1.) eating to much 2.) not doing enough training to utalise all the calories 3.) dont do any cardio. 4.) are having to many carbs,5.) suffer from estrogen related fat paterns.

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14 Apr 2010 08:32 #42429 by Catsmasher
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So wat you saying i can exercise my stomache 7times a week but if I even remotely eat to much carbs it wil stay ?

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14 Apr 2010 08:35 #42430 by Empire
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YES. if u are eating to much u then are not gonna loose jack shit. if something is growing that means u are eating to much! its the rule of the universe dude,u wanna grow u eat more,if u are not utalising the calories u are taking in then u are gonna store them as body fat.plain and simple!

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14 Apr 2010 08:47 #42433 by Catsmasher
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Stomache not really growing but its always been there.:) but want to get rid of it.So how do you put on muscle size and lose fat around your middle? Isnt restricting calories going to hinder your muscle output?

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14 Apr 2010 08:49 #42434 by Empire
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u either do 1 or the other, u either cut or u bulk,if u are going to be bulking then expect to put on some mud around the middle...its clear thats your diet is ummm shit... i have commented on it before and u should take the advice that i have given u on it...

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14 Apr 2010 08:51 #42435 by Catsmasher
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haha man ive changed it so maybe its not shit anymore ;) ok so I want to put bulk so I should ignore my stomache and not even bother with exercising it?

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14 Apr 2010 08:53 #42436 by Empire
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correct.if u want abs,eat less and do cardio... if u are over 12% bf i wouldnt even be considering bulking though...

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14 Apr 2010 08:54 #42437 by Gearedup
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i would only train abs sub 10% bf personally, thats just me. how much of a boep do you have? it might be prudent to get rid of it first with a cut run then clean bulk after, its alot more motivating putting on size when you can see it lol

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14 Apr 2010 08:55 #42438 by Catsmasher
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hahaha ermmmmm listen how correct is those scales that measure your BF?

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14 Apr 2010 08:59 #42440 by Empire
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get a 7 point skin fold test done,dont bother with piece of machinery... it looks if u are holding mud around the belly etc u are more than 12%... i would get that down cos your body is used to storing calories as fat not in the muscle...

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14 Apr 2010 09:01 #42442 by spike
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Not very accurate. I've used a state of the art scale that took bf, muscle vol, etc etc, but it was still 2% off my bf as measured with calipers

Um, but im scared of needles...

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14 Apr 2010 09:05 #42443 by Barbell
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cat....the bottom line is that is that the best way to reduce body fat is to increase muscle mass but this can`t be done unless you start eating properly and working out propely. My advice would be to change your workout to one that makes use of the most combination excersise as possible, even if it means a total body workout every day or second day. Try finish off the workouts with cardio. The more combination workouts you use the more muscles you use and the more calories you`ll be burning. B)

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14 Apr 2010 09:06 #42444 by Catsmasher
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Gearedup wrote:

i would only train abs sub 10% bf personally, thats just me. how much of a boep do you have? it might be prudent to get rid of it first with a cut run then clean bulk after, its alot more motivating putting on size when you can see it lol


not realy a boep I use to be 120kg+ was Fooking fat but wats left now is love handles and a lose stomache.Its not even noticeable if i have a shirt on but just looks lose.

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14 Apr 2010 09:11 #42448 by Catsmasher
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Im 92kg but its weird because if i compare myself to a friend of mine that is 88kg he looks alot bigger than me.The initial idea of bulking up came from the fact that i think i am small for the weight I carry around anyway.So I mean i know for a fact my Bf is probly about 18-20%.

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14 Apr 2010 09:13 #42449 by Gearedup
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your call, sugegstion, get a good diet from dj for example, commit yourself the next 8-12 weeks , get the cardio at 40-60min ed in the am, get rid of it once and for all, then start taking your body to new heights from there. thats may june, leaving july august and september to put on some size for summer with already low bodyfat. pretty much what i am doing now as well.

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14 Apr 2010 09:13 #42450 by Catsmasher
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Barbell wrote:

cat....the bottom line is that is that the best way to reduce body fat is to increase muscle mass but this can`t be done unless you start eating properly and working out propely. My advice would be to change your workout to one that makes use of the most combination excersise as possible, even if it means a total body workout every day or second day. Try finish off the workouts with cardio. The more combination workouts you use the more muscles you use and the more calories you`ll be burning. B)


So doing cardio everyday wont hinder putting on muscle mass?

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14 Apr 2010 09:19 #42451 by Barbell
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cat....the bottom line is that is that the best way to reduce body fat is to increase muscle mass but this can`t be done unless you start eating properly and working out propely. My advice would be to change your workout to one that makes use of the most combination excersise as possible, even if it means a total body workout every day or second day. Try finish off the workouts with cardio. The more combination workouts you use the more muscles you use and the more calories you`ll be burning. B)


So doing cardio everyday wont hinder putting on muscle mass?


Some might disagree but I don`t think so and even if you do lose a bit of muscle its not your priority at the moment is it? I know you want muscle mass but it seems as if the priority is more to lose the love handles than anything else. Anyways the loss of muscle will be minor. Its incredibly difficult to keep all the muscle and lose body fat but you can minimise the loss. Do 40 minutes of combination excersise and 10-20 minutes Low intensity cardio or cardio every second day for 40-50 minutes and the weights every other day.

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14 Apr 2010 09:20 #42452 by Catsmasher
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Barbell wrote:

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cat....the bottom line is that is that the best way to reduce body fat is to increase muscle mass but this can`t be done unless you start eating properly and working out propely. My advice would be to change your workout to one that makes use of the most combination excersise as possible, even if it means a total body workout every day or second day. Try finish off the workouts with cardio. The more combination workouts you use the more muscles you use and the more calories you`ll be burning. B)


So doing cardio everyday wont hinder putting on muscle mass?


Some might disagree but I don`t think so and even if you do lose a bit of muscle its not your priority at the moment is it? I know you want muscle mass but it seems as if the priority is more to lose the love handles than anything else. Anyways the loss of muscle will be minor. Its incredibly difficult to keep all the muscle and lose body fat but you can minimise the loss. Do 40 minutes of combination excersise and 10-20 minutes Low intensity cardio or cardio every second day for 40-50 minutes and the weights every other day.


aaa ok Guess Il stop skipping on the jogging part.slapgat.

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14 Apr 2010 09:42 #42459 by Catsmasher
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What stomache exercises is the most effective though if your diet etc. is spot on?

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14 Apr 2010 09:59 #42461 by Gearedup
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Crunches and hanging leg raises

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14 Apr 2010 10:59 #42469 by Empire
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Barbell wrote:

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cat....the bottom line is that is that the best way to reduce body fat is to increase muscle mass but this can`t be done unless you start eating properly and working out propely. My advice would be to change your workout to one that makes use of the most combination excersise as possible, even if it means a total body workout every day or second day. Try finish off the workouts with cardio. The more combination workouts you use the more muscles you use and the more calories you`ll be burning. B)


So doing cardio everyday wont hinder putting on muscle mass?


Some might disagree but I don`t think so and even if you do lose a bit of muscle its not your priority at the moment is it? I know you want muscle mass but it seems as if the priority is more to lose the love handles than anything else. Anyways the loss of muscle will be minor. Its incredibly difficult to keep all the muscle and lose body fat but you can minimise the loss. Do 40 minutes of combination excersise and 10-20 minutes Low intensity cardio or cardio every second day for 40-50 minutes and the weights every other day.


i disagree with u completely, in order to put on muscle mass u need to consume more calories that u need to maintain weight,so by adding in extra exercise is just going to burn more calories thus bringing your calories back to the calories needed to maintain current weight. the more work u do the more calories u need. look at it this way. to bulk u need say 500calories extra. so if u are trying to bulk and take in 3500calories u will put on muscle mass. now if u are trying to bulk on 3500calories and u are doing cardio to say the value of 400calories that means u are actually taking in 3100calories which is only 100calories more. so therefore u are just going to maintain muscle mass.. now if u wanna cut u reduce calories from 3500 to 3000 and u add in cardio to the value of 400calories that will bring your total calorie intake down to about 2600 calories a day,creating a deficit and making u loose fat... so if u are bulking dont add cardio.if u are 16-18% get that body fat % down to 10-12% as your body is used to storing calories in the fat cells not in the muscle so u are just going to carry on gaining fat whilst gaining minimal muscle.

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14 Apr 2010 11:05 #42470 by Gearedup
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what he said....

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14 Apr 2010 11:12 #42473 by Michael
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Good reply DJ, how long would you say it would take to drop from 16% to 12% ?

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14 Apr 2010 11:20 #42474 by Barbell
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DJ wrote:

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cat....the bottom line is that is that the best way to reduce body fat is to increase muscle mass but this can`t be done unless you start eating properly and working out propely. My advice would be to change your workout to one that makes use of the most combination excersise as possible, even if it means a total body workout every day or second day. Try finish off the workouts with cardio. The more combination workouts you use the more muscles you use and the more calories you`ll be burning. B)


So doing cardio everyday wont hinder putting on muscle mass?


Some might disagree but I don`t think so and even if you do lose a bit of muscle its not your priority at the moment is it? I know you want muscle mass but it seems as if the priority is more to lose the love handles than anything else. Anyways the loss of muscle will be minor. Its incredibly difficult to keep all the muscle and lose body fat but you can minimise the loss. Do 40 minutes of combination excersise and 10-20 minutes Low intensity cardio or cardio every second day for 40-50 minutes and the weights every other day.


i disagree with u completely, in order to put on muscle mass u need to consume more calories that u need to maintain weight,so by adding in extra exercise is just going to burn more calories thus bringing your calories back to the calories needed to maintain current weight. the more work u do the more calories u need. look at it this way. to bulk u need say 500calories extra. so if u are trying to bulk and take in 3500calories u will put on muscle mass. now if u are trying to bulk on 3500calories and u are doing cardio to say the value of 400calories that means u are actually taking in 3100calories which is only 100calories more. so therefore u are just going to maintain muscle mass.. now if u wanna cut u reduce calories from 3500 to 3000 and u add in cardio to the value of 400calories that will bring your total calorie intake down to about 2600 calories a day,creating a deficit and making u loose fat... so if u are bulking dont add cardio.if u are 16-18% get that body fat % down to 10-12% as your body is used to storing calories in the fat cells not in the muscle so u are just going to carry on gaining fat whilst gaining minimal muscle.


Like I said in my previous post..."but this can`t be done unless you start eating properly "....

I also advise cardio due to the fact that even though Cat
indicated he wants to bulk it seems his priority is to actually loose the love handles.

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