Torn Peck

Hey guys,I'm new to the forum,was searching the web for some info and decided the only way to find out what I want to know is to join a forum.

Firstly I'm 25 years old,from Pretoria,have about 10 years training experience on and off.
3 months ago I tore my left peck (major and minor) I had a grade2 tear and I was out of the gym for 3 months so it could heal,went for fisio etc etc.

Got back in the gym and took it slow on the bench,warmed up quite good was benching 30kg for my 2 first sets at 20 reps.
Then on my 3rd set went for 45kg and still felt good.

Then I went for 60kg on my 4th set and on the 3rd rep I heard that familiar "pop" sound and then felt that same sharp pain I experience 3 months ago.

It was not as bad as the first time so I'm assuming this is only a grade1 tear of that I only pulled the muscle.
So this puts me back at square 1.

My question is,will it help me to heal a bit quicker if I use steroids or will it cause the muscle to have a weaker repair process ?

Not to sure about this and I realy dont want to wait another 3 months before going back to the gym,I realy wish I had just stuck to the 30kg for a month or 2 and this might not have happened again,but ja.Too late for that now.

Any advise or tips would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in Advance.

I would think you purposely tore your peck the 2nd time around dude,it was really stupid of you to jump from 30kg bench to 60kg in 1 session.3 months is not nearly enough for your muscle to fully heal properly.You could have started with push-ups for a few months after your injury,it will give a similar effect on your chest without the danger.My advice is go back to your doctor and leave chest training for at least 6 months,i doubt juice will be a good idea to repair a damaged chest,after al,you need to train while on a cycle in any case....good luck

So tell me again why someone would tear a muscle on purpose ?

Right.....keep your advise to yourself in the future.

I already clearly stated that I know it was a mistake to try to jump for 60 but like I said..whats done is done.

Ish man that sound painfull.

I would let it heal for the next 3 months or so.

I would then go to a doctor and let them scan the muscle for weak spots and so on.

He then should be able to tell you how the muscle looks. I had to do it for my left bicep.
Some doctors have that scanning machine in their room . I think its call a sonar gram.

I can only train light with my arms atm. Anything heavy give a sharp pain or my arm gives in.

For healing Deca would be my choice m but only after the scan.

( I reckon keep the sets light for up to 6 months + deca , get the muscle checked and try increasing the mass slowly)

Chances are lifting heavy out of the question for a long time.

Yeah...seems like I will just have to learn to have more patience.And eventualy when it has healed I think I will just have to forget about heavy bench presses,chances are it will just tear again.

Man I'm so stupid,realy wish I did not go for the 60.

I phoned a this guy that I know (former sa bodybuilder a few years back).He had the same tear in his peck and he suggested that I try some equipoise but that I only train my legs,arms etc and stay away from chest for about 2 months.

After that If my peck feels better I should try very light weights and take it slow for another 2-3 months and then next year I can try lifting a bit heavier.So I will give that a shot and see if its all better next year.Lifting heavy is obviously out of the question but if I could at least get up to 110 or 120kg somewhere next year then I will be happy.

I did the same thing with my arm. I felt I could go heavier and it tore a bit.

I trained lightly for 6 months and go the arm scanned every now and then.

I never go to heavy after that.

I rather be safe that sorry.

Let it heal for as long as possible. If it tears again you could be out for longer than the initial healing period!

If it tears again within the near future I will probably stay out of the gym for a year and just let it heal properly,should actualy just have left it for remainder of this year but I thought it would be safe to go back and try it lol oh well,....As die kop dom is moet die lyf maar sukkel.

Just take it easy for 6 months . Let it heal.. Just try stay in shape.

Its took me a good year of light training until I could life heavy again.

Hope you heal asap..

Deca and TLC

Ive tore my bicep some time ago but my physio is a genius hes puting me on lasers and electrical currents that helped me heal very quick. Also im icing it 3 times per day and dont waste time with ice packs get a plastic cup fill it with water and get a nice heavy ice block put directly on skin. Do this for 15-20 minutes max. Whatever you do about juice DO NOT TOUCH WINSTROL.Torn muscles have a tendency to tear again so anything that dries you up is bad for you in the future. Good luck dude its shit having injuries.....

Hehe ja it realy sucks !!!

I never use winny anyways,tried it once and did not like it.

Going for EQ at 200mg per week for 10 weeks then I'll take it to 400mg for another 5 weeks.
Not a very high dosage but it should be enough just to give me a boost for the recovery.

I hate to say this but in your case deca will be the right way to go. Equi wont help you with the injury

Oh okay.....thanks for the tip but why would the deca be better than EQ ?

well actually no im wrong deca wont help you much since all it does it retains water within joints and lubricates them more. Since your pek is torn i dont think deca would be helping much

This is a bit off topic but a would seriously suggest you see a biokineticist.

Problem with goin back to gym is that your stabalizing (very small) muscles are completely "pap"

Quickest way (for me)to see this is trying to incline bench with 15kg dumbell's - you swerve all over the place and allthough you get it up you feel like there is no control. (normally use 45 - 50's to give you an idea)

So before trying to use gear getting your big muscles all good and strong FIRST get the muscles that keep the big muscles in place strong and fit.
This in the end will make you stronger, less prone to injury and better formed.

Story: My mate from varsity could squat (in sets of 6) around 160kg. He went to a biokineticist after a knee injury and trained core and stabalizing muscles intensively for almost 2 months. He came back and could do sets of 145kg standing on a ROUND Pilatus ball.

How many of you can do that?

LSJ wrote:

This is a bit off topic but a would seriously suggest you see a biokineticist.

Problem with goin back to gym is that your stabalizing (very small) muscles are completely "pap"

Quickest way (for me)to see this is trying to incline bench with 15kg dumbell's - you swerve all over the place and allthough you get it up you feel like there is no control. (normally use 45 - 50's to give you an idea)

So before trying to use gear getting your big muscles all good and strong FIRST get the muscles that keep the big muscles in place strong and fit.
This in the end will make you stronger, less prone to injury and better formed.

Story: My mate from varsity could squat (in sets of 6) around 160kg. He went to a biokineticist after a knee injury and trained core and stabalizing muscles intensively for almost 2 months. He came back and could do sets of 145kg standing on a ROUND Pilatus ball.

How many of you can do that?

Never in my life would I try doing squats on pilatus ball,this sounds like something looking into and it does make a lot of sense.

You will never catch me ding something stupid like that. Ever think of what will happen if something goes wrong?

jackrabbit1 wrote:

You will never catch me ding something stupid like that. Ever think of what will happen if something goes wrong?

You dont train like this weekly, when you do you ensure you have people assisting you. You also firstly need to to able to stand on the damn thing! The point is not to train heavily when doin this but develop your core and stabalizing muscles.

I lifted my benchpress with 15kg after doing my bench-press routine on a round Pilatus ball every second week. When on the ball I used 80-90kg for sets. On the bench-press I use 120-130kg.

When starting I used just the bar. When my friend started he used two 10kg dumbells that he hold in his hands.

Hope this helps - and yes, it was worth the effort for me.

LSJ wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

You will never catch me ding something stupid like that. Ever think of what will happen if something goes wrong?

You dont train like this weekly, when you do you ensure you have people assisting you. You also firstly need to to able to stand on the damn thing! The point is not to train heavily when doin this but develop your core and stabalizing muscles.

I lifted my benchpress with 15kg after doing my bench-press routine on a round Pilatus ball every second week. When on the ball I used 80-90kg for sets. On the bench-press I use 120-130kg.

When starting I used just the bar. When my friend started he used two 10kg dumbells that he hold in his hands.

Hope this helps - and yes, it was worth the effort for me.

I can honestly say that I think this will develop your muscle better than any other method of training by far,but it is not something I will try and it sounds damn hard.

LSJ wrote:

jackrabbit1 wrote:

You will never catch me ding something stupid like that. Ever think of what will happen if something goes wrong?

You dont train like this weekly, when you do you ensure you have people assisting you. You also firstly need to to able to stand on the damn thing! The point is not to train heavily when doin this but develop your core and stabalizing muscles.

I lifted my benchpress with 15kg after doing my bench-press routine on a round Pilatus ball every second week. When on the ball I used 80-90kg for sets. On the bench-press I use 120-130kg.

When starting I used just the bar. When my friend started he used two 10kg dumbells that he hold in his hands.

Hope this helps - and yes, it was worth the effort for me.

Sounds very interesting. deffinately worth a look into

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I can honestly say that I think this will develop your muscle better than any other method of training by far,but it is not something I will try and it sounds damn hard.[/quote]

Give it a try, just get to a biokenetics guy first to ensure you do it right. You will see that your injury will heal much faster.