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07 Aug 2013 19:43 #146592
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Hi,
I have hit a plateau on my strenght training. Currently I am at:
1-2 Rep/max (I dont have a partner).
Bench: 165 kg
Squat: 220 kg
Deadlift: 240kg (using wrist straps)
Leg press: 400+kg
The problem is I cant seem to get up on my bench,deadlift and my squat. I dont use a belt
and I dont own one. I see guys at the gym using a belt and lifting half the weight.
I focus quite a bit on form and core stability and I feel that my form is still good without it.
Do you guys think I should try a belt and see if I can add a extra 20kg on the squat and deadlift?
I have tried going onto another program, hi rep one for a change, but when I went back to the main lifts after 4 weeks I had lost between 20-30kg on all lifts. Was frustrating. I have tried reducing the weights and doing alot more explosive on the positive and slow on the negative. I have been on that for a good 3 weeks but recently I tried going up on my max and still stuck at the above numbers.
My body stats:
31 yrs
1,8m
130kg
bf: 20%
Before you crucify me on my bf, I am looking for a good physique but am more interested in power/strenght training. I dont have a boep, I have a heavy bone structure (lol i sound like cartman from south park). I enjoy going to the gym, pushing hard and look at the posers lifting 10kg dumbells and battling. Pu$$ies. hehe.
I am not on any gear. Have not been on any to date. My diet consists of alot of protein, chicken, sweet patato, nuts, egg whites. Also try get in quite a bit of fruit. (I know the sugar) You get the picture.
Supps:
Whey, creatine, glutamine, flaxseed.
Any advise or comments would be welcome.
Oh and PS. I do do cardio, off days 30min cycling and take my dogs for a run.
I have hit a plateau on my strenght training. Currently I am at:
1-2 Rep/max (I dont have a partner).
Bench: 165 kg
Squat: 220 kg
Deadlift: 240kg (using wrist straps)
Leg press: 400+kg
The problem is I cant seem to get up on my bench,deadlift and my squat. I dont use a belt
and I dont own one. I see guys at the gym using a belt and lifting half the weight.
I focus quite a bit on form and core stability and I feel that my form is still good without it.
Do you guys think I should try a belt and see if I can add a extra 20kg on the squat and deadlift?
I have tried going onto another program, hi rep one for a change, but when I went back to the main lifts after 4 weeks I had lost between 20-30kg on all lifts. Was frustrating. I have tried reducing the weights and doing alot more explosive on the positive and slow on the negative. I have been on that for a good 3 weeks but recently I tried going up on my max and still stuck at the above numbers.
My body stats:
31 yrs
1,8m
130kg
bf: 20%
Before you crucify me on my bf, I am looking for a good physique but am more interested in power/strenght training. I dont have a boep, I have a heavy bone structure (lol i sound like cartman from south park). I enjoy going to the gym, pushing hard and look at the posers lifting 10kg dumbells and battling. Pu$$ies. hehe.
I am not on any gear. Have not been on any to date. My diet consists of alot of protein, chicken, sweet patato, nuts, egg whites. Also try get in quite a bit of fruit. (I know the sugar) You get the picture.
Supps:
Whey, creatine, glutamine, flaxseed.
Any advise or comments would be welcome.
Oh and PS. I do do cardio, off days 30min cycling and take my dogs for a run.
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08 Aug 2013 08:48 - 08 Aug 2013 08:49 #146627
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Hey leave us Pu$$ies alone :lol: thats some weight u pushing ...what I do without a spotter is half reps and quarter reps ...go to your max then add weight for half rep add weight and quarter rep see if that helps eventually your half should become a full rep and so on
shot bru...
shot bru...
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08 Aug 2013 16:15 #146820
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Hi Mike,
Will look at the half reps. Whats your take on pyramid sets? Where I gym there are quite a few guys playing on bbm on their phones at gym, that actually what I meant by the posers with the 10kg dumbells. It irritates me beyond because I actually take my training quite seriously.
The weights are heavy but as I said I am quite big and playing prop for a few years tends to give you
strong legs.
Thanks again for the reply.
Will look at the half reps. Whats your take on pyramid sets? Where I gym there are quite a few guys playing on bbm on their phones at gym, that actually what I meant by the posers with the 10kg dumbells. It irritates me beyond because I actually take my training quite seriously.
The weights are heavy but as I said I am quite big and playing prop for a few years tends to give you
strong legs.
Thanks again for the reply.
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08 Aug 2013 21:58 - 08 Aug 2013 21:59 #146848
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Why does lifting lighter weights make you a poser?? It all depends on where you are in your journey! If you have perfect form you can get away with much lighter weights (which is my mission in the gym). I see how many people using mad weights but have been Gymming for 10 years and look like shit!
My respect goes to the kid curling 10kg with perfect form next to his friend curling the 20kg using his back and momentum.
My respect goes to the kid curling 10kg with perfect form next to his friend curling the 20kg using his back and momentum.
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08 Aug 2013 22:08 #146851
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Yeah totally agree pyro:thumbup:
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08 Aug 2013 22:31 #146853
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Respect to pushing that kind of weight with no spotter. It really irritates me when I see these "posers" with spotters pushing triple the weight they can handle with their spotters doing 70% of the work, and then act like they own the gym
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09 Aug 2013 06:50 #146868
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Thanks for the replies.
I do think i phrased it wrong with what I said in my original post saying the guys 'posers' pushing 10kg are pu$$ies. Looking back now I sound like a doos and I'm really not. I only meant that where I gym most guys are not serious about their training. It is either a social gathering or they are there for another reason. I have not "befriended" anybody at my gym because I go there, greet people, but I dont chat. I pay my monthly fees to gym and thats what I do. After that I go home,shower and work.
A spotter would be nice sometimes as I have hurt my back once doing squats, had to take off 3 months from squatting.
I lost concentration for a second and my form went with 200kg on my back.
The reason I dont want to ask the trainers at my gym to spot if because their idiots. There are alot
of people training with bad form and they dont correct them. I asked the one guy and he said, "if they pay for a lesson I will show them the correct way". That guy is a doos.
Respect to any guy with the dedication to go to gym and try and push themselves. There is a younger guy I push for that extra rep or extra 5kg when I see him. I realise physiques are very different, some have massive upperbody, some massive lower body strenght.
Like Pyro said, form is everything especially if you go heavy. With isolated dumbell curls I go down to 12kg dumbells because I cant keep form from where I start. I aslo started training with bad form and got hurt but I educated myself and did training with light weight until my form was good and then went heavy. A year ago I was squatting 160kg, now I am uo to 240kg (1 rep). I sometimes laugh at myself, think of shouting "light weight, light weight motherf...." Ronny Coleman. Just for a laught. Maybe one day just to see a reaction as I pick up a 45kg dumbell. lol
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.
I do think i phrased it wrong with what I said in my original post saying the guys 'posers' pushing 10kg are pu$$ies. Looking back now I sound like a doos and I'm really not. I only meant that where I gym most guys are not serious about their training. It is either a social gathering or they are there for another reason. I have not "befriended" anybody at my gym because I go there, greet people, but I dont chat. I pay my monthly fees to gym and thats what I do. After that I go home,shower and work.
A spotter would be nice sometimes as I have hurt my back once doing squats, had to take off 3 months from squatting.
I lost concentration for a second and my form went with 200kg on my back.
The reason I dont want to ask the trainers at my gym to spot if because their idiots. There are alot
of people training with bad form and they dont correct them. I asked the one guy and he said, "if they pay for a lesson I will show them the correct way". That guy is a doos.
Respect to any guy with the dedication to go to gym and try and push themselves. There is a younger guy I push for that extra rep or extra 5kg when I see him. I realise physiques are very different, some have massive upperbody, some massive lower body strenght.
Like Pyro said, form is everything especially if you go heavy. With isolated dumbell curls I go down to 12kg dumbells because I cant keep form from where I start. I aslo started training with bad form and got hurt but I educated myself and did training with light weight until my form was good and then went heavy. A year ago I was squatting 160kg, now I am uo to 240kg (1 rep). I sometimes laugh at myself, think of shouting "light weight, light weight motherf...." Ronny Coleman. Just for a laught. Maybe one day just to see a reaction as I pick up a 45kg dumbell. lol
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.
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10 Aug 2013 13:42 #146935
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“Everybody is a genius. But, if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it’ll spend its whole life believing that it is stupid.” – Albert Einstein
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I know what your dealing with its same where i gym the people don't last long they come for a few months acting like they own the place, benching 110 KG with 3 buddies spotting for him making a social gathering and almost taking half an hour at each exercise they doing and after a few months they quit some people pay a shit load of money for trainers that's never there and when they are there they don't correct them when they make mistakes Ive gym alone for the past 2 and a half years and i keep my sessions 45 min to an hour witch is kinda difficult with these idiots taking up the space
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