USN - 12 WEEK TRANSFORMATION CHALLENGE AND SUPPS

good day,

has anyone attempted this 12 week program (eating plan and training program). i would love to get some info on this and the opinions of those who would be "qualified" to make statements of truth, good or bad. i am currently on it and not sure what to think of it. currently using the whey, diet fuel, cla, phedra cuts. would really appreciate constructive opinions and facts. thank you.

USN doesn't hold a good rep on this board from past gathered info. As for feedback on this specific product/program/challenge/black hole doubt any body has used it. On the upside i quess u'll be able to give us sum real world feedback.

If u don't mind how much did u pay and what exactly is in there?

Ultimate Shit Nutrition

Do the challenge but do ur own diet and take what ever u want to get to ur goals and try win the comp. Pretty sure alot of the people who have done that challenge have used AAS or something that is not USN.

I know about three people that has done this with good results. I think its the best way to get into the regimine of training, eating regularly and using supplements.

Obviously its a waste of time if you're like 90kg with 8-12% bf but for a dik ou its the best way to get started.

I personally started with body for life.

the diet lacks so much,you cannot work on 1 chicken breast and a fist size potato,also those diet fuel and shakes they produce are full of sugars,i dont see the need in having sugars any where other than post work out...people need to realise that the diet is cookie cutter,and will not suit all individuals,the training is also lacking as 3 days weights and 3 days cardio is a bit hmmm strange,should be 4 days training and cardio on the same days as training.

vega is right though,if u are just starting out and need to get into the healthy life style then it is fine...other than that nope...

many thanks to all those who replied. i personally never/not entering, just bought all the supplements they suggested and followed then eating/training program. my wife and i are both doing it, but honestly we expected more. we were quite heavy on take outs and sweets/fizzy drinks. no eating plan whatsoever, 3 meals a day of some sort was sufficient. we have been going for about 10 weeks now, really hitting it hard in the gym (weights/cardio) sometime twice a day (5-7 days p/w) and also some road cycling. there is a difference but minimal. i thought that just by cutting out all the junk we were eating would result in a bit of weight loss, but that never happened for us either. perhaps i gained bit of muscle and therefore my weight never dropped and perhaps the pill my wife is on hinders her weight loss? hence i decided to get some gear for a mild course and a custom eating training program. one cant put all the effort in and barely see results. i mean absolutely no friend or family said "oh, i can see you have lost some weight" not me or my wife. dont get me wrong, i am not a guru, but i am also not completly ignorant. i have an idea when it comes to training and eating, i do lots of researchand ask a lot of questions. so even with the little bit of knowledge i have (above avg) and applying it in this program and using the supps, results was not what i was hoping for. let me say this, we were not going to look anything near to all those people on the USN website after 12 weeks. yes we have 2-3 weeks to go but believe me i dont see much changing, perhaps just a bit of motivation out the window. wife came home last night with a new tub of USN diet fuel, we thinking about returning it and getting her something else. perhaps someone can suggest something?

FYI - we did not buy the starter pack, too expensive and all the supps are in small qty's. cheaper to buy the bigger tubs of each one and take it from there. we using the following USN supps, diet fuel / 100% whey / phedra cuts / biogen glutamine. its getting expensive now, but would not mind if we were at least getting some comments about getting more trimmed or something to that effect.

May bee you should try a Keto diet.With some clen,heat and Sculpt Gel.

Note I'm not an expert on loosing weight but rather on gaining weight because my metabolism is very fast.This is what you should be aiming to achieve when dieting and training read this link about speeding up your metabolism.

Get active - it's a sure-fire way to increase the amount of muscle you have, which in turn will speed up your metabolism. Do a mixture of aerobic and resistance training for best results. And don't forget to be more active in your daily life too.

Eat little and often - there's evidence that eating small, regular meals throughout the day, rather than one or two large meals, may help to keep your metabolism ticking over. Surprisingly, around 10 percent of the calories we use each day go on digesting and absorbing food - so the more times you eat, the greater this effect is likely to be.

Eat plenty of protein-rich foods - research shows that around 25 percent of calories in a protein-rich meal may be burnt off. But make sure you choose low-fat protein foods such as lean meat, skinless chicken and low-fat dairy products.

Spice up meals - it's not an old wives tale after all! Spices like chilli are thought to raise metabolism by up to 50 percent for up to three hours after eating, due to increasing your heart rate. But before putting the local Indian takeaway on speed dial, work out which curries have the lowest calorie and fat content.

Swap you daily cuppa for green tea - there's evidence that it contains antioxidants that speed up metabolism.

Try a CLA supplement - more extensive studies need to be carried out before any definite conclusions can be drawn, but research has shown that conjugated linoleic acid (CLA) might increase muscle and therefore boost metabolism.

Chill out - research shows that being very cold can increase metabolism by up to 20 percent.

Have a sauna - being very hot is also thought to boost metabolism by about 20 percent (but check you don't have any underlying medical problems that mean you shouldn't go in saunas or steam rooms).

Remember that over training can also lead to stagnated fat loss.

thanks to Pumped and Vega5. i appreciate your input and guidence. also making contact with DJ re. eating/training program. be blessed guys and have a great new year. stay safe!

The USN supplements have absolutely F&#$^%^&-ALLL to do with the "transformation". Eat properly and train and you will have the same results.

thanks man. just waiting to hear back from DJ re. program. still have 1.5kg USN 100% whey. hoping to use it finish without it causing any problems since USN shakes contain so much sugar?

Captain wrote: many thanks to all those who replied. i personally never/not entering, just bought all the supplements they suggested and followed then eating/training program. my wife and i are both doing it, but honestly we expected more. we were quite heavy on take outs and sweets/fizzy drinks. no eating plan whatsoever, 3 meals a day of some sort was sufficient. we have been going for about 10 weeks now, really hitting it hard in the gym (weights/cardio) sometime twice a day (5-7 days p/w) and also some road cycling. there is a difference but minimal. i thought that just by cutting out all the junk we were eating would result in a bit of weight loss, but that never happened for us either. perhaps i gained bit of muscle and therefore my weight never dropped and perhaps the pill my wife is on hinders her weight loss? hence i decided to get some gear for a mild course and a custom eating training program. one cant put all the effort in and barely see results. i mean absolutely no friend or family said "oh, i can see you have lost some weight" not me or my wife. dont get me wrong, i am not a guru, but i am also not completly ignorant. i have an idea when it comes to training and eating, i do lots of researchand ask a lot of questions. so even with the little bit of knowledge i have (above avg) and applying it in this program and using the supps, results was not what i was hoping for. let me say this, we were not going to look anything near to all those people on the USN website after 12 weeks. yes we have 2-3 weeks to go but believe me i dont see much changing, perhaps just a bit of motivation out the window. wife came home last night with a new tub of USN diet fuel, we thinking about returning it and getting her something else. perhaps someone can suggest something?

FYI - we did not buy the starter pack, too expensive and all the supps are in small qty's. cheaper to buy the bigger tubs of each one and take it from there. we using the following USN supps, diet fuel / 100% whey / phedra cuts / biogen glutamine. its getting expensive now, but would not mind if we were at least getting some comments about getting more trimmed or something to that effect.

You are not seriously considering steroids after only 10 weeks of training are you?? No disrespect, but that is ludicrous. Maybe I have just misinterpreted your post? But anyway, 10 weeks is NOTHING in terms of body transformation. Also the supplements are just a tiny part of the triangle. Nutrition and training are the cornerstones. And first and foremost look at your DIET. It's not just about cutting out junk, it's calories in and calories out and macro-nutrients etc. Contact DJ on these boards to get proper scientific help with your eating plan. Good luck with your quest. If you keep at it and do the right things you WILL get results.

Captain wrote: thanks man. just waiting to hear back from DJ re. program. still have 1.5kg USN 100% whey. hoping to use it finish without it causing any problems since USN shakes contain so much sugar?

If its 100% whey it should have very little sugar, what is the carb reading on a server?

been training weights for quite some time now before attempting the USN thing. so no, not training for 10 weeks then using gear. i posted it for a reason, to get reliable feedback and opinions based on the training and eating program given by USN, cause that is what i was following. turns out the feedback i got is that basically the program they give is a "sample" routine, no specifics to body weight, age and so on. hence the reason i paid DJ for a custom plan which i started this morning and no gear for now. just solid foods and whey protein. all specified for my stats and activity level. completely different to that of the USN programs. hope this makes things clearer.thanks for the input though and looking forward to the results.

cool stuff Capitan! good luck with you transformation!

@00pump - 100% whey / per 30g serving = 22g protein / 4g carb / 2g fat

So then don't worry about the carbs, they low.

cooll! and thanks Etwa

bro
you have come to the right place regarding your transformation. the members here offer top notch advice and if you follow, i have no doubt that you will transform your body.

if only usn was as good at making supplements as they are at marketing them. when i initially started my journey in 2006, usn was all i knew due their marketing strategy and the brainwashed dischem salesman, who u will see will punt nothing but usn or biogen. brilliant strategy for usn to make their millions and become a huge player in our market. not so good for u or me who believe that their maltodextrin and sugar rich krap is gonna transform u.

return the diet fuel if you can and get yourself some decent whey (not usn). my personal preference is sps isopro which is pure whey protein isolate and its a local brand so it wont cost you an arm or a leg as compared to if u were buying isolate from an international brand. overall my personal favourite brands that produce results are muscletech, optimum nutrition, gaspari, bsn, universal. the only sa brands i would use are sps and ssn and possibly musclescience. for me the rest are bs with minimal research.

i wish u all the best on weight loss journey bro

@ ice-Rip, dude you know how motivating it is getting encouragement from yourself and this forum. just the fact of telling me that i have come to the right place motivates for the day. Thanks my man, as i realise that every post posted was due to someone stopping what they were doing and decided to rather help someout with some valuable advise. Man, that is just great. i think i need to spend a lot of time on this forum to stay encoureged and motivated.

I am continuing to use the USN 100% whey as i already started with it, but for my wife we returned the Diet Fuel and got her some Evox Pro Lean instead. I have taken note of the other brands mentioned. Today is only my second day on DJ's program, eating more than what I was used to, but then again I am fairly sure that i was way below my TDEE. Have a great day further brother.

Dont quit with the motivation, encouragment and advice:cheer:

you welcome bro. you will find the members heres are are willing to lend a helping hand in terms of knowledge. i have a memeber on many forums international and local and have found my home here. thats because i share a common goal with most of the other guys here. when i am at work, i'd say this forum stays open on average 6 hours/day. ill probably be in kak if our adminstrator finds out but the valuable information shared here is worth the risk for me. its also under opera mini on my cell phone so i can always stay updated with the latest

to help u furthur, read the sticky by DJ "calorie intake help". there is a nutrional calculator there which will allow you to input your age, height weight etc and it will calculate your calorie needs for the day so that you can start structuring your own eating plans once you are comfortable.

now that you have DJ's eating plan, i hope you are ready to start shedding tons of bodyfat and picking up some quality lean muscle.

for sure my. yip, read all that stuff. feels as if i am an expert now on nutrition compared to my wife and friends. but what i do want to do is use the calculator and work out something for me wife in the mean time. take care brother. and dont worry about your Administrator:lol:

nice tech tip on the opera mini ice!

Captain wrote: been training weights for quite some time now before attempting the USN thing. so no, not training for 10 weeks then using gear. i posted it for a reason, to get reliable feedback and opinions based on the training and eating program given by USN, cause that is what i was following. turns out the feedback i got is that basically the program they give is a "sample" routine, no specifics to body weight, age and so on. hence the reason i paid DJ for a custom plan which i started this morning and no gear for now. just solid foods and whey protein. all specified for my stats and activity level. completely different to that of the USN programs. hope this makes things clearer.thanks for the input though and looking forward to the results.

Shot Captain. You have done the right thing and come to the right place. Good luck. This site has a wealth of knowledge and experience and the guys go out of their way to help. You have definitely taken the right steps to achieve your goal, and I wish you all the best.

Great stuff Shaunrsa!!